SCSI2SD Woes - Page 3

Arnie · 30 November 2016, 10:12

Try saving the mountlist from ram: (if using faaastprep) to your WB disk (DF0:Devs) Boot from the WB disk and type mount (whatever the device name is, it will be the first line in the mountlist). If it shows up then automount isn't working on the GVP device.

idrougge · 30 November 2016, 12:29

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Originally Posted by Arnie

Did the GVP ship with XT or SCSI drives?

Only SCSI.

azuvix · 05 December 2016, 02:41

O_O Arnie, you're brilliant. It's only seen as a 31 MB drive, but it's there.

So um, now what? We've established that automount doesn't work.

Sinphaltimus · 05 December 2016, 02:57

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Originally Posted by azuvix

O_O Arnie, you're brilliant. It's only seen as a 31 MB drive, but it's there.

So um, now what? We've established that automount doesn't work.

Perhaps the switch is bad, have you tried putting a jumper on the connection?

azuvix · 05 December 2016, 03:00

I tried that a little earlier, but no such luck.

Sinphaltimus · 05 December 2016, 03:56

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Originally Posted by azuvix

I tried that a little earlier, but no such luck.

As a low cost last resort, you can try replacing the firmware.

Otherwise, I don't know how to repair the autoboot function.

azuvix · 05 December 2016, 04:20

Well, I did think about one route if all else fails - this drive is really intended for larger game installations more than anything else. I've got a Gotek on the way and could boot Workbench from that, then start games from the SCSI2SD. Surely there's a way to make that happen, right?

I'm using Arnie's image again and formatting as we speak to see if I can get a decent amount of space working consistently. Here's hoping we see some real progress!

Sinphaltimus · 05 December 2016, 15:53

Also, I find it strange that the autoboot isn't working when jumped. You may want to inspect the board, namely follow the traces from the jumper pins to their final destination to ensure no breaks in the traces. Something as simple as a scratch.

azuvix · 06 December 2016, 01:51

I agree, it is unusual. The traces look pretty pristine, though. The worst anomaly was a little bit of dust.

By the way, I've been minimally successful in the last day or so with getting it to read and use partitions. I went ahead and wrote an Amiga partition table to the card using GParted, stuck it back in the machine, and issued a "format drive dh0: name Games ffs quick". The result is persistent as long as I enter the drive parameters correctly in the mountlist and add a mount directive to the startup config. However, it's still not perfect - installing games there works, but then starting them from the drive is very prone to not working or crashing.

Frankly, I could even live without autoboot if I could have a little more stability here. Thoughts?

Sorry everybody, I know this has been a long, drawn-out battle.

Sinphaltimus · 06 December 2016, 14:43

It's an interesting challenge.

I still recommend changing the prom.

I accidentally plugged my scsi cable in backwards and did about 10 minutes of troubleshooting before I found my mistake.

I corrected it and my gvp stopped working. At boot I'd get an unexpected status error from gvp.scsi device.

The firmware was a long shot but it worked.

That's the only thing I can recommend.

azuvix · 06 December 2016, 17:29

Alright, it's about time to try that out, I'd say. PM sent.

Sinphaltimus · 06 December 2016, 18:02

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Originally Posted by azuvix

Alright, it's about time to try that out, I'd say. PM sent.

I'm trying to respond via mobile app but I don't think is working. I'll respond for certain when I get home in about 5 hours.

All in all, and I just need to confirm for certain, it's probably around $10 total, shipping included.

aperez · 03 January 2017, 20:03

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Originally Posted by azuvix

Alright, it's about time to try that out, I'd say. PM sent.

Hi there, were you ever able to sort this issue out?

drphilxray · 30 January 2022, 06:00

Well it’s 6years later and I’m quaking in my booties reading all this before I try to put a16Gb SD into a new version SCSI2SD from Amigastore.eu in my new old HD8+ connected to my new old A500 PAL Pistorm (with piscsi on, but only mounting its internal piscsi0 drive for WiFi transfers b/w PC). There have been changes since in Amiga hardware! But the old platter scsi HD has too many errors and I want to keep the feel of the gvp sidecar as that’s what I had long ago in ‘93. Anyhoo wish me luck as I used Zeb’s online 16Gb WB3.1 Whdload image burned to SD. I think WinUAE or an online pre made image has a far better chance to work than reconfiguring cylinders and heads....

05 December 2016, 04:20	#47
azuvix Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18	Well, I did think about one route if all else fails - this drive is really intended for larger game installations more than anything else. I've got a Gotek on the way and could boot Workbench from that, then start games from the SCSI2SD. Surely there's a way to make that happen, right? I'm using Arnie's image again and formatting as we speak to see if I can get a decent amount of space working consistently. Here's hoping we see some real progress! Last edited by azuvix; 05 December 2016 at 04:32.

06 December 2016, 01:51	#49
azuvix Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18	I agree, it is unusual. The traces look pretty pristine, though. The worst anomaly was a little bit of dust. By the way, I've been minimally successful in the last day or so with getting it to read and use partitions. I went ahead and wrote an Amiga partition table to the card using GParted, stuck it back in the machine, and issued a "format drive dh0: name Games ffs quick". The result is persistent as long as I enter the drive parameters correctly in the mountlist and add a mount directive to the startup config. However, it's still not perfect - installing games there works, but then starting them from the drive is very prone to not working or crashing. Frankly, I could even live without autoboot if I could have a little more stability here. Thoughts? Sorry everybody, I know this has been a long, drawn-out battle. Last edited by azuvix; 06 December 2016 at 02:00.

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30 November 2016, 10:12	#41
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Try saving the mountlist from ram: (if using faaastprep) to your WB disk (DF0:Devs) Boot from the WB disk and type mount (whatever the device name is, it will be the first line in the mountlist). If it shows up then automount isn't working on the GVP device.

05 December 2016, 02:41	#43
azuvix Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18	O_O Arnie, you're brilliant. It's only seen as a 31 MB drive, but it's there. So um, now what? We've established that automount doesn't work.

05 December 2016, 03:00	#45
azuvix Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18	I tried that a little earlier, but no such luck.

05 December 2016, 15:53	#48
Sinphaltimus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Cresco, PA, USA Age: 53 Posts: 1,126	Also, I find it strange that the autoboot isn't working when jumped. You may want to inspect the board, namely follow the traces from the jumper pins to their final destination to ensure no breaks in the traces. Something as simple as a scratch.

06 December 2016, 14:43	#50
Sinphaltimus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Cresco, PA, USA Age: 53 Posts: 1,126	It's an interesting challenge. I still recommend changing the prom. I accidentally plugged my scsi cable in backwards and did about 10 minutes of troubleshooting before I found my mistake. I corrected it and my gvp stopped working. At boot I'd get an unexpected status error from gvp.scsi device. The firmware was a long shot but it worked. That's the only thing I can recommend.

06 December 2016, 17:29	#51
azuvix Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18	Alright, it's about time to try that out, I'd say. PM sent.

30 January 2022, 06:00	#54
drphilxray Registered User Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: PLYMOUTH Posts: 5	Well it’s 6years later and I’m quaking in my booties reading all this before I try to put a16Gb SD into a new version SCSI2SD from Amigastore.eu in my new old HD8+ connected to my new old A500 PAL Pistorm (with piscsi on, but only mounting its internal piscsi0 drive for WiFi transfers b/w PC). There have been changes since in Amiga hardware! But the old platter scsi HD has too many errors and I want to keep the feel of the gvp sidecar as that’s what I had long ago in ‘93. Anyhoo wish me luck as I used Zeb’s online 16Gb WB3.1 Whdload image burned to SD. I think WinUAE or an online pre made image has a far better chance to work than reconfiguring cylinders and heads....

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