PPC-Warp3D games speedup - fullscreen in window-mode! - Page 3

Bamiga2002 · 06 August 2012, 13:19

OK thanksos for benchmarksos

. However I wonder why -gamma has any impact on performance.

Now waiting for others FPS-results here also...

matthey · 06 August 2012, 15:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bamiga2002

OK thanksos for benchmarksos

. However I wonder why -gamma has any impact on performance.

I don't think gamma impacted performance. A higher gamma looked better to me was all. The P96 "Experimental" variable is probably what helped the performance.

Bamiga2002 · 17 August 2012, 10:26

In this page http://wiki.amigaos.net/index.php/UserDoc:Warp3D it claims that only "Dither" env-variable is used on Avenger and "DitherAlgo" & "AntiAlias" are for Napalm. Btw. what is Napalm here?
Do you enable these variables by setting "1/0" or "ON/OFF"?

delshay & kriz -> still waiting for your benchmarks

EDIT: checked manually and the Avenger env-vars ARE used and enabled by setting "ON/OFF"

Bamiga2002 · 20 August 2012, 08:17

* some little script changes:
- changed "Wait 1" before making pointer invisible
- added yet another stack option for Quake (16384000)
- changed Wipeout 2097 to use a non-PC screnmode to correct colors (seems not to affect framerate)
- removed 800x600 screenmode option from Wipeout 2097 because game only opens max 640x480 in window-mode

Bamiga2002 · 20 August 2012, 09:03

Added [ Show youtube player ] timedemo...
A little snappier than without FullWin.

matthey · 20 August 2012, 13:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bamiga2002

In this page http://wiki.amigaos.net/index.php/UserDoc:Warp3D it claims that only "Dither" env-variable is used on Avenger and "DitherAlgo" & "AntiAlias" are for Napalm. Btw. what is Napalm here?
Do you enable these variables by setting "1/0" or "ON/OFF"?

Avenger is the Voodoo 3 GPU. Napalm (or VSA-100) is the Voodoo 4 and 5 GPU(s). I didn't know that "DitherAlgo" and "AntiAlias" require the Napalm. I don't expect all of this information is accurate for the AmigaOS 3 version 4 Warp3D but it does provide some hints

.

Bamiga2002 · 20 August 2012, 13:24

If you text-search the HW-drivers for Voodoo3 you see that those ENV-vars are there to be found

Btw. I tested AntiAlias and it seems to work, for the expense of some speed though. But not much

Bamiga2002 · 21 August 2012, 11:44

Added some [ Show youtube player ] playing.

Bamiga2002 · 24 August 2012, 21:35

[ Show youtube player ]
[ Show youtube player ]

Bamiga2002 · 06 September 2012, 21:38

Updated some little things:
* added icons for games - now the launcher GUI's are bypassed by default (except Wipeout 2097)
- Quake 2 icon has my default settings innit
* moved icons & scripts to separate game drawers
* minor env-vars and 'Voodoo.info' change - nothing critical

Bamiga2002 · 24 October 2012, 14:09

I'd really like to hear about other people's results on this...delshay/kriz where art thou?
Don't worry you won't fuck up your miggy with these scripts.

Bamiga2002 · 26 December 2012, 23:01

Random changes and a personal record at last!

Changed:
powerpc.library from 16.1b (Frank Wille) -> 16.1 (original one)
pci.library from 9.7 -> 10.0

results in Quake 1 timedemo 1-3 tests at 640x480:
"demo1" 33.8 fps
"demo2" 36.5 fps
"demo3" 30.0 fps (always got 28-29 earlier)

I'm not sure yet which one of the libraries (or both) affected the test but there you go

Bamiga2002 · 27 December 2012, 07:25

Somethings changed for sure: even with the same libraries I committed earlier tests, they now yield better results:
Again Quake 640x480 timedemos with different libs-combinations:

pci.library 9.7 / powerpc.library 16.1b (these I used before):
demo1 33.4 fps
demo2 36.1 fps
demo3 29.6 fps

pci.library 9.7 / powerpc.library 16.1:
demo1 34.1 fps
demo2 36.6 fps
demo3 30.1 fps

pci.library 10.0 / powerpc.library 16.1 (fastest combination):
demo1 34.3 fps
demo2 36.8 fps
demo3 30.3 fps

I suspect Don Adans improved graphics.library made the difference, will test this...

EDIT: nope, didn't seem to make any difference in FPS. hmm....

Bamiga2002 · 28 December 2012, 18:15

FullWin updated - with slight script change for Quake and speed improvement tips!

Bamiga2002 · 31 December 2012, 07:11

Quake 800x600 timedemo demo1 now gave 26.9 FPS instead of 24.1 FPS.

CrashMidnick · 10 January 2013, 22:54

Could someone tells me how much FPS he/she has in Wipeout in fullscreen mode ? I only get between 10-15 fps most of time in fullscreen mode.

My setup is :

A1200 PPC 330MHZ
Mediator
Voodoo
SB128

Wipeout setup :

640x480 16bit (fullscreen)
Triple buffering
Max texture
No AHI

Thanks !

Bamiga2002 · 11 January 2013, 17:52

If I select the first track with your settings I get 17-23fps (staying still). The fps counter in that level when racing shows about 14-20fps (sometimes hops to 24fps).

Using FullWin:
22-28 fps - standing still
17-32 fps - racing (sometimes hops to 40)

delshay · 11 January 2013, 19:25

How do you display fps in wipeout?

Bamiga2002 · 11 January 2013, 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by delshay

How do you display fps in wipeout?

Press 'DEL' in-game.
Thnx CrashMidnick for this info

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CrashMidnick · 11 January 2013, 20:46

Thanks for your results mate

I will try your fullwin patch as soon as possible. It is awesome !

17 August 2012, 10:26	#43
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	In this page http://wiki.amigaos.net/index.php/UserDoc:Warp3D it claims that only "Dither" env-variable is used on Avenger and "DitherAlgo" & "AntiAlias" are for Napalm. Btw. what is Napalm here? Do you enable these variables by setting "1/0" or "ON/OFF"? delshay & kriz -> still waiting for your benchmarks EDIT: checked manually and the Avenger env-vars ARE used and enabled by setting "ON/OFF" Last edited by Bamiga2002; 20 August 2012 at 08:49.

20 August 2012, 09:03	#45
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Added [ Show youtube player ] timedemo... A little snappier than without FullWin. Last edited by Bamiga2002; 20 August 2012 at 12:10. Reason: added blabber

27 December 2012, 07:25	#53
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Somethings changed for sure: even with the same libraries I committed earlier tests, they now yield better results: Again Quake 640x480 timedemos with different libs-combinations: pci.library 9.7 / powerpc.library 16.1b (these I used before): demo1 33.4 fps demo2 36.1 fps demo3 29.6 fps pci.library 9.7 / powerpc.library 16.1: demo1 34.1 fps demo2 36.6 fps demo3 30.1 fps pci.library 10.0 / powerpc.library 16.1 (fastest combination): demo1 34.3 fps demo2 36.8 fps demo3 30.3 fps I suspect Don Adans improved graphics.library made the difference, will test this... EDIT: nope, didn't seem to make any difference in FPS. hmm.... Last edited by Bamiga2002; 27 December 2012 at 16:34.

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06 August 2012, 13:19	#41
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	OK thanksos for benchmarksos . However I wonder why -gamma has any impact on performance. Now waiting for others FPS-results here also...

20 August 2012, 08:17	#44
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	* some little script changes: - changed "Wait 1" before making pointer invisible - added yet another stack option for Quake (16384000) - changed Wipeout 2097 to use a non-PC screnmode to correct colors (seems not to affect framerate) - removed 800x600 screenmode option from Wipeout 2097 because game only opens max 640x480 in window-mode

20 August 2012, 13:24	#47
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	If you text-search the HW-drivers for Voodoo3 you see that those ENV-vars are there to be found Btw. I tested AntiAlias and it seems to work, for the expense of some speed though. But not much

21 August 2012, 11:44	#48
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Added some [ Show youtube player ] playing.

24 August 2012, 21:35	#49
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	[ Show youtube player ] [ Show youtube player ]

06 September 2012, 21:38	#50
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Updated some little things: * added icons for games - now the launcher GUI's are bypassed by default (except Wipeout 2097) - Quake 2 icon has my default settings innit * moved icons & scripts to separate game drawers * minor env-vars and 'Voodoo.info' change - nothing critical

24 October 2012, 14:09	#51
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	I'd really like to hear about other people's results on this...delshay/kriz where art thou? Don't worry you won't fuck up your miggy with these scripts.

26 December 2012, 23:01	#52
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Random changes and a personal record at last! Changed: powerpc.library from 16.1b (Frank Wille) -> 16.1 (original one) pci.library from 9.7 -> 10.0 results in Quake 1 timedemo 1-3 tests at 640x480: "demo1" 33.8 fps "demo2" 36.5 fps "demo3" 30.0 fps (always got 28-29 earlier) I'm not sure yet which one of the libraries (or both) affected the test but there you go

28 December 2012, 18:15	#54
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	FullWin updated - with slight script change for Quake and speed improvement tips!

31 December 2012, 07:11	#55
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Quake 800x600 timedemo demo1 now gave 26.9 FPS instead of 24.1 FPS.

10 January 2013, 22:54	#56
CrashMidnick Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: FRANCE Posts: 222	Could someone tells me how much FPS he/she has in Wipeout in fullscreen mode ? I only get between 10-15 fps most of time in fullscreen mode. My setup is : A1200 PPC 330MHZ Mediator Voodoo SB128 Wipeout setup : 640x480 16bit (fullscreen) Triple buffering Max texture No AHI Thanks !

11 January 2013, 17:52	#57
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	If I select the first track with your settings I get 17-23fps (staying still). The fps counter in that level when racing shows about 14-20fps (sometimes hops to 24fps). Using FullWin: 22-28 fps - standing still 17-32 fps - racing (sometimes hops to 40)

11 January 2013, 19:25	#58
delshay Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: uk Posts: 245	How do you display fps in wipeout?

11 January 2013, 20:46	#60
CrashMidnick Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: FRANCE Posts: 222	Thanks for your results mate I will try your fullwin patch as soon as possible. It is awesome !

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