08 April 2017, 09:22 | #1 |
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Cabal (1988)(Ocean) arcade colors tweak
One game i did't like the colors. It just doesn't look like the arcade. So i followed earok's tutorial and changed the colors to match the arcade as much as possible. Only play area changed, not tested thoroughly. In the zone as
Cabal (1988)(Ocean)_arcade colors [cr MAD][t +2 Avenger].adf arcade original Amiga version new colors |
09 April 2017, 16:50 | #2 |
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So anyone tried it? Any impressions?
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09 April 2017, 17:09 | #3 |
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Haven't tried it yet on my A1200. Nice fit but imo too colorful/vibrant.
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Well, I think Amiga version was slightly better because of toned down colors and better sounds. Saturation like this may be done with CRT display but it's useful if you are using WinUAE with LCD. It's well done but Cabal need more better controls (grenades) than color control.
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Thierry had to use those colors because the game had to be also portable on the atari ST, in 16 colors. Cabal graphics were done on an Atari ST, so degas elite, so 512 colors palette, so more or less shit palettes (due to constraint), and the game had to run in 512kb of ram. With 1mb, i'm sure they would have gone 32 colors. Nobody's incentive is good to me. Cabal weakness is really its crap color scheme..... |
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Also in the arcade you finish stage sooner, in the Amiga version takes longer for the enemy bar to fill. Amiga version is much harder due to stupid controls and the player sprite is awful.
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Can you hack the WHDLoad version too? Don't know if the disk is running on my A1200.
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09 April 2017, 17:40 | #12 |
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Just played it on my A1200. Looks indeed better on real hardware (Sony CRT TV RGB). Would be nice to have it hacked for WHDLoad too since the CD32 controls are useful.
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And of course, they master fully the palettes of any system they worked on. So can you please explain or illustrate what you mean by oversaturated ? A game like super ghouls'n'Ghosts for example has a fabulous palette. The colors are incredibly good, how can they be better ? |
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09 April 2017, 18:15 | #14 |
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First problem found, the player 2 sprite looks awful now so i have to change that red and make a revised version.
https://s4.postimg.org/y8wzamfmz/Cli...vert_Image.png PS but it was looking awful also before http://www.mobygames.com/images/shot...wo-players.gif |
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It's for enemy distraction.
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09 April 2017, 20:44 | #16 | |
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You'd need 32 or better 64 colors in order to get something visually good. The coin-op is using a 256 colors palettes (read : unique colors). So passing the whole thing in only 16 colors..... ouch. |
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At least is better than some other versions
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Yes, but house is pink only in arcade version
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Yes
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