File size limit

thairacerjp · 20 February 2020, 02:09

Hello, I'm a bit confused with the max file size (not partition, I'm ok with this since a change to PFS3 system) but I'm stuck with the 2GB file size , I have update my sci device to 43.45, I have managed to make SFS partition (who is supposed to support to 4GB file) but when file is up to 2gb, cannot copy, I'm on classic workbench 1.3, did I need to install the 3.9 or have 64 bits support ? , someone asked me to put load. module in the startup sequence.... all this is for using big cdxl files

. thanks for your help

thomas · 20 February 2020, 08:14

Currently there is no way to make 68k AmigaDOS work properly with files >2GB. Yes, SFS can do larger files, but only if you use SFS\2 DosType. And still the rest of the OS does not handle these files correctly. Only very few programs which are especially designed to use the new 64bit DOS packets can handle such large files. The only program I know is TSGUI which I wrote myself.

File size limit has nothing to do with IDE or SCSI driver version. It's a pure DOS issue.

Harddrive size is limited by the interface between file system and HDD driver.
Partition size is limited by file system only.
File size is limited by the interface between DOS and file system.

thairacerjp · 20 February 2020, 19:28

thanks Thomas for your explanation, it"s more clear for me now, I like this avatar, my childhood !

thairacerjp · 22 February 2020, 09:21

i've just notice that my dos type is not DOSType 'SFS', so it should be the problem for support more than 2GB file ? , i have followed this tutorial :
[ Show youtube player ]

, the dostype is shown on HD INSTOOL program but in this tutorial, i only put 0x53465300 and using hdtoolbox

so what i did wrong for cannot put some file larger than 2 GB ?

and when i check, all seems ok for support file up to 2GB

Thomas Richter · 22 February 2020, 09:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by thairacerjp

i've just notice that my dos type is not DOSType 'SFS', so it should be the problem for support more than 2GB file ?

so what i did wrong for cannot put some file larger than 2 GB ?

You are using AmigaDOS, this is the problem. AmigaDos can only indicate files up to a maximum size of 4GB, though many programs may then indicate a negative file size. Some file operations will not work safely for files larger than 2GB.

Hence, no way.

thomas · 22 February 2020, 09:36

The DosType is a 4-byte identifier. Four bytes can be written as four characters or as eight hexadecimal digits. In fact 0x53465300 is the same as SFS\0.

0x means a hexadecimal number follows.
53 is the hexadecimal ASCII code for S.
46 is the hexadecimal ASCII code for F.
53 is S again.
00 is an unprintable character and is therefore used as-is, prefixed by \ to indicate a number rather than a character.

As I mentioned above, to activate large file features you should use SFS\2 a.k.a. 0x53465302 instead. And I also mentioned that with existing programs you won't be able to handle large files properly. You can read or write them sequentially, but as soon as a program tries to determine or change the current position in the file, it will fail. The same applies to the file size, you won't find a program which displays the file size correctly.

thairacerjp · 22 February 2020, 11:54

Quote:

SFS2 is not intended for OS3.9 or below: it is only for OS4/4.x

so, the problem is close, thanks again for your awser thomas

thomas · 22 February 2020, 14:46

SFS2 does not exist any more. The author merged SFS1 and SFS2 into one. You can select one or the other by DosType.

20 February 2020, 02:09	#1
thairacerjp Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: FRANCE Posts: 375	File size limit Hello, I'm a bit confused with the max file size (not partition, I'm ok with this since a change to PFS3 system) but I'm stuck with the 2GB file size , I have update my sci device to 43.45, I have managed to make SFS partition (who is supposed to support to 4GB file) but when file is up to 2gb, cannot copy, I'm on classic workbench 1.3, did I need to install the 3.9 or have 64 bits support ? , someone asked me to put load. module in the startup sequence.... all this is for using big cdxl files . thanks for your help

22 February 2020, 09:21	#4
thairacerjp Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: FRANCE Posts: 375	i've just notice that my dos type is not DOSType 'SFS', so it should be the problem for support more than 2GB file ? , i have followed this tutorial : [ Show youtube player ] , the dostype is shown on HD INSTOOL program but in this tutorial, i only put 0x53465300 and using hdtoolbox so what i did wrong for cannot put some file larger than 2 GB ? and when i check, all seems ok for support file up to 2GB Last edited by thairacerjp; 22 February 2020 at 09:56.

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20 February 2020, 08:14	#2
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 6,985	Currently there is no way to make 68k AmigaDOS work properly with files >2GB. Yes, SFS can do larger files, but only if you use SFS\2 DosType. And still the rest of the OS does not handle these files correctly. Only very few programs which are especially designed to use the new 64bit DOS packets can handle such large files. The only program I know is TSGUI which I wrote myself. File size limit has nothing to do with IDE or SCSI driver version. It's a pure DOS issue. Harddrive size is limited by the interface between file system and HDD driver. Partition size is limited by file system only. File size is limited by the interface between DOS and file system.

20 February 2020, 19:28	#3
thairacerjp Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: FRANCE Posts: 375	thanks Thomas for your explanation, it"s more clear for me now, I like this avatar, my childhood !

22 February 2020, 09:36	#6
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 6,985	The DosType is a 4-byte identifier. Four bytes can be written as four characters or as eight hexadecimal digits. In fact 0x53465300 is the same as SFS\0. 0x means a hexadecimal number follows. 53 is the hexadecimal ASCII code for S. 46 is the hexadecimal ASCII code for F. 53 is S again. 00 is an unprintable character and is therefore used as-is, prefixed by \ to indicate a number rather than a character. As I mentioned above, to activate large file features you should use SFS\2 a.k.a. 0x53465302 instead. And I also mentioned that with existing programs you won't be able to handle large files properly. You can read or write them sequentially, but as soon as a program tries to determine or change the current position in the file, it will fail. The same applies to the file size, you won't find a program which displays the file size correctly.

22 February 2020, 14:46	#8
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 6,985	SFS2 does not exist any more. The author merged SFS1 and SFS2 into one. You can select one or the other by DosType.

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