Request: MOD Player That Fully Works In Win 10

Titler · 18 November 2017, 02:47

Posting this here as I can't see anywhere specific for asking for actual players... Basically every now and then I come back to wanting to hear Amiga tunes, but time and operating system changes means my old playlists have broken in one way or another.

Currently the best solution I've found is BZRPlayer; however it fails to end various tracks (Speedball, IK+ etc), it only plays the player death jingle at the start of some of the Shadow Of The Beast tracks (castle, plains, underground, water) and won't play Lemmings 2 - The Tribes at all.

I've tried both foobar2000 and xmplay, and both of these have more issues, even with the plugins/components I've found so far.

Does anyone know how to fix the above, or of a better universal player? Thanks!

emufan · 18 November 2017, 03:09

the old deliplayer or uade cygwin build - commandline only.
not tested with win10, i have older win version.

#1) deliplayer 2.5b in the zone.

ptyerman · 18 November 2017, 03:16

I don't use Windows 10 but one way I employ in Windows, Linux and BeOS is to setup a Amiga Workbench environment in the background using WinUAE or E-UAE. Just run it in the background and utilise EaglePlayer or DeliTracker to play the mods. Works a treat.

jmmijo · 18 November 2017, 07:27

What about VLC ?

http://www.videolan.org/

meynaf · 18 November 2017, 10:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmmijo

What about VLC ?

http://www.videolan.org/

VLC is about as poor as other PC players.

The fact is that no player exists for PC that will play everything Amiga related. DeliPlayer could but no longer works.

So the only reliable solution is to do what ptyerman suggested : setup an uae and use DT/EP.

Jeff_HxC2001 · 18 November 2017, 11:03

I still have to do a nice GUI but :

http://hxc2001.free.fr/hxcmod/

working on any device/computer/os having a modern web browser.
Drag & drop your mod on the browser window to load it !

Amiga68k · 18 November 2017, 11:13

XMPlay:
http://www.un4seen.com/

This Plugin:
https://support.xmplay.com/files_view.php?file_id=499

This skin:
http://support.xmplay.com/files_view.php?file_id=663

meynaf · 18 November 2017, 13:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff_HxC2001

I still have to do a nice GUI but :

http://hxc2001.free.fr/hxcmod/

working on any device/computer/os having a modern web browser.
Drag & drop your mod on the browser window to load it !

Before the nice GUI perhaps you can try implementing all ptk effects properly, f.e. EFx isn't played. Next you can add support for other formats, like MED (for "Lemmings 2 - the tribes" the OP mentioned it's mandatory).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amiga68k

XMPlay:
http://www.un4seen.com/

This Plugin:
https://support.xmplay.com/files_view.php?file_id=499

This skin:
http://support.xmplay.com/files_view.php?file_id=663

Just tried it, still fails. On some MEDs it's a real horror.

DH · 18 November 2017, 13:35

I sill use deliplayer 2.5b on Win 10

Although the drag and drop feature was borked from Win7 onwards and the default volume level being set to 0% and not 100%, which is another oddity introduced since Win 7. However, apart from those it still works fine.

Just remember to up the volume or you'll think it's still borked

Amiga68k · 18 November 2017, 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

Before the nice GUI perhaps you can try implementing all ptk effects properly, f.e. EFx isn't played. Next you can add support for other formats, like MED (for "Lemmings 2 - the tribes" the OP mentioned it's mandatory).

Just tried it, still fails. On some MEDs it's a real horror.

Something strange going on. Most med's are playing fine, but distortion started suddenly when playing med.medieval. A restart of XMPlay causes the distortion to disappear...

meynaf · 18 November 2017, 14:27

Perhaps i'll write some player some time. So far i've always been deceived in one way or another, but if something passes my tests then it ought to be fine nearly everywhere...

ptyerman · 18 November 2017, 15:59

Yeah, xmplay is ok for playing most basic mods, it sux at anything else though!
It's a real shame Deliplayer was left to rot, up to and including Windows XP it was the best thing out there.
Unless anything worthy comes along that does the job as well as Deliplayer I'll just continue to run a emulated Workbench in the background.
As long as you have a good enough system you don't even notice it's running. Except for the background jingles!

Jeff_HxC2001 · 18 November 2017, 19:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

Before the nice GUI perhaps you can try implementing all ptk effects properly, f.e. EFx isn't played. Next you can add support for other formats, like MED (for "Lemmings 2 - the tribes" the OP mentioned it's mandatory).

Yes sure. could you share some links where i can download these mod files ?

AMIGASYSTEM · 18 November 2017, 19:25

@Titler
You've tried MODPlug Player

meynaf · 19 November 2017, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff_HxC2001

Yes sure. could you share some links where i can download these mod files ?

Not all are available for download unfortunately (or the version on exotica is broken). I can give you more if you have access to the zone, but you can already start there :
http://aminet.net/package/mods/xceed/Sensuality
https://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Flashback (mod options1, fails at 0:47)
Else just about any MED will do.

There are also occasionnal buffer overruns making small "holes" in the music.

The main problem when reporting mods that don't play correctly is that so many players fail and nothing happens when the authors have no good reference to compare with...
You can compare with DT2.

meynaf · 19 November 2017, 11:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

@Titler
You've tried MODPlug Player

Just tested. Fails too (and on a mod that's played correctly by Jeff_HxC2001's player

).

Jeff_HxC2001 · 19 November 2017, 13:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

Not all are available for download unfortunately (or the version on exotica is broken). I can give you more if you have access to the zone, but you can already start there :
http://aminet.net/package/mods/xceed/Sensuality
https://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Flashback (mod options1, fails at 0:47)
Else just about any MED will do.

There are also occasionnal buffer overruns making small "holes" in the music.

The main problem when reporting mods that don't play correctly is that so many players fail and nothing happens when the authors have no good reference to compare with...
You can compare with DT2.

Thanks ! Will check & fix this !

Titler · 01 December 2017, 10:28

Sorry for not replying before folks, but I'm going to get stuck into all the suggestions this weekend, so thanks to you all in advance!

A.I · 04 December 2017, 21:16

Hello.....

http: // 16-bits.org / pt.php

kriz · 05 December 2017, 03:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amiga68k

XMPlay:
http://www.un4seen.com/

This Plugin:
https://support.xmplay.com/files_view.php?file_id=499

This skin:
http://support.xmplay.com/files_view.php?file_id=663

Thx

!!

18 November 2017, 03:09	#2
emufan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: #DrainTheSwamp Posts: 4,545	the old deliplayer or uade cygwin build - commandline only. not tested with win10, i have older win version. #1) deliplayer 2.5b in the zone. Last edited by emufan; 18 November 2017 at 03:17.

04 December 2017, 21:16	#19
A.I Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Reset Corp Age: 57 Posts: 8	ProTracker v2.3D clone (for Windows) Hello..... http: // 16-bits.org / pt.php

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18 November 2017, 02:47	#1
Titler Zone Friend Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 303	Request: MOD Player That Fully Works In Win 10 Posting this here as I can't see anywhere specific for asking for actual players... Basically every now and then I come back to wanting to hear Amiga tunes, but time and operating system changes means my old playlists have broken in one way or another. Currently the best solution I've found is BZRPlayer; however it fails to end various tracks (Speedball, IK+ etc), it only plays the player death jingle at the start of some of the Shadow Of The Beast tracks (castle, plains, underground, water) and won't play Lemmings 2 - The Tribes at all. I've tried both foobar2000 and xmplay, and both of these have more issues, even with the plugins/components I've found so far. Does anyone know how to fix the above, or of a better universal player? Thanks!

18 November 2017, 03:16	#3
ptyerman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Worksop/UK Age: 59 Posts: 1,328	I don't use Windows 10 but one way I employ in Windows, Linux and BeOS is to setup a Amiga Workbench environment in the background using WinUAE or E-UAE. Just run it in the background and utilise EaglePlayer or DeliTracker to play the mods. Works a treat.

18 November 2017, 07:27	#4
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,395	What about VLC ? http://www.videolan.org/

18 November 2017, 11:03	#6
Jeff_HxC2001 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris / France Posts: 656	I still have to do a nice GUI but : http://hxc2001.free.fr/hxcmod/ working on any device/computer/os having a modern web browser. Drag & drop your mod on the browser window to load it !

18 November 2017, 11:13	#7
Amiga68k Registered User Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 231	XMPlay: http://www.un4seen.com/ This Plugin: https://support.xmplay.com/files_view.php?file_id=499 This skin: http://support.xmplay.com/files_view.php?file_id=663

18 November 2017, 13:35	#9
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	I sill use deliplayer 2.5b on Win 10 Although the drag and drop feature was borked from Win7 onwards and the default volume level being set to 0% and not 100%, which is another oddity introduced since Win 7. However, apart from those it still works fine. Just remember to up the volume or you'll think it's still borked

18 November 2017, 14:27	#11
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,323	Perhaps i'll write some player some time. So far i've always been deceived in one way or another, but if something passes my tests then it ought to be fine nearly everywhere...

18 November 2017, 15:59	#12
ptyerman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Worksop/UK Age: 59 Posts: 1,328	Yeah, xmplay is ok for playing most basic mods, it sux at anything else though! It's a real shame Deliplayer was left to rot, up to and including Windows XP it was the best thing out there. Unless anything worthy comes along that does the job as well as Deliplayer I'll just continue to run a emulated Workbench in the background. As long as you have a good enough system you don't even notice it's running. Except for the background jingles!

18 November 2017, 19:25	#14
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	@Titler You've tried MODPlug Player

01 December 2017, 10:28	#18
Titler Zone Friend Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 303	Sorry for not replying before folks, but I'm going to get stuck into all the suggestions this weekend, so thanks to you all in advance!

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