Amiga SVideo Adapters A500 / A600 / A1000 / A1200 / A4000

Zetr0 · 26 October 2007, 23:28

Hello there forum chummies,

I am close to completion of the first prototype production run so here is where I now ask whom is interested in wanting one... to help with you decision I have some price guides.

Price Guide Unpopulated PCB & Drilled
(all include printed assembly instructions and bill of materials)

"Narmi Internal Deluxe" £5

Internal 2 layer board Jumper configurable for NTSC or PAL
(crystal needs to change to 3.54 ntsc)

Composite / 15kz VGA and Svideo Internal fly-over card (fits in a12 expansion bay)

"Narmi Internal Basic" £4

Simple 1 layer board
PAL / NTSC

"Narmi External Deluxe" £5

Includes positions for 15Khz VGA / Composite and SVideo
PAL Only

"Narmi External Basic" £4

Svideo PAL Only Output

Price Guide Build at Home Kits
(includes drilled PCB, assembly instructions, Capacitors, Resistors, AD724, oscillator and internal headers / cables)

"Narmi Internal Basic" £10 PAL / NTSC

"Narmi Internal Deluxe" £15 PAL / NTSC
also includes

Svideo Connector
15Pin VGA Connector
Composite Connector

"Narmi External Basic" £12.50 PAL ONLY
also includes

Enclosure
Svideo Connector
Composite Connector

"Narmi External Deluxe" £18.50 PAL ONLY
also includes

Enclosure
Svideo Connector
15Khz VGA Connector
Composite Connector

Fully Assembled item, please add £2.50

Postage for each kit costs £2 multiple kits will be +50p fully assembled kits might cost a little more depending on physical size
(this should cover mainland Europe / UK / USA and Australia) if its any less I will reduce it, if its anymore, then I will pan-handle you for more money

....( maybe use those big puppy dog eyes.... i have some cut out on cardboard somewhere

)

If you are interested in any of the above, please respond here, if you have any queries just let me know if there a specific modification or revision you would like just PM me

I hope to get some pictures up over the weekend.

If enough requests are generated I will have the boards professionally made this will reduce the cost a little bit

27 October 2007, 02:53

I am interested in a "Narmi External Deluxe" fully assembled.

PAL for me please.

Angus · 27 October 2007, 10:10

Hi Zetro,
I'm a bit groggy from just waiting up, but I'm determined to respond quickly, so sorry if I am a bit fuzzy here

I would like a fully assembled external deluxe which I think is £23.

I only really need the Basic model, but for the price it seems the Deluxe makes sense. I assume the extra functions don't add any noise or anything to the S video?

Good work, and where and when do you want me to send payment? Do you have paypal?

Cheers, and have a good weekend.

cane · 27 October 2007, 11:16

I''ll definitively take one, not sure yet which one - probably external since I have few Amigas.
Can't wait to see the pictures so I can decide do I have the skills to solder something like that.
Is this £2 international postage or only UK?

Paul_s · 27 October 2007, 11:43

Zetro my good man, put me down for one of the External Deluxe's fully assembled please. And that's a deffo!

Zetr0 · 27 October 2007, 12:06

I will let this run till Wednesday 31st Oct, then calculate the requests and revise the prices (which by theory will go down) so every one will be happy

The Postage is likely to be around the £2 mark, I sent an Item of similar size to Binox (small packet in the UK) and a huge parcel to our Amigo Keropi in Greece and there was only a £1.50 difference... I have edited the above a little.... in fact I will edit it again, SO the external units can be (if so desired) NTSC...

please state if you want NTSC or PAL, as this determines what Crystal Oscillator to use

Calgor · 27 October 2007, 12:20

Put me down for a narmi external deluxe PAL, fully assembled. Any chance of being able to put a switch in to make it able to switch between PAL and NTSC (for an extra cost) ? Reason is so it can be used for smooth scrolling for both PAL/NTSC amiga modes.

Also may be interested in a narmi internal deluxe PAL if you can describe how it is mounted internally (i.e. what it clips on to, and what amiga models it can work with inside). Maybe I will use this as my first soldering job!

Paul_s · 27 October 2007, 12:37

PAL version for me please chap

Zetr0 · 27 October 2007, 13:00

@Calgor

The input is irrelevant as it comes from the Amiga RGB, the PAL/NTSC is only the output of the SVideo / Composite.

I can make a switchable one for you, that will be about £1.50 for the extra crystal and switch(s).

mrodfr · 27 October 2007, 15:57

@Zetr0

Put me down for a narmi external deluxe PAL, fully assembled (the complete deluxe full version) :-) as requested since weeks by me :-)

thanks for the work involved on this project, narmi and Zetr0.

adonay · 27 October 2007, 18:15

ok put me up for two internal Narmi Internal Deluxe i have wanted something like this for ages :-D. nicely done :-)

Zetr0 · 27 October 2007, 18:20

@adonay

Hello there,

Welcome to the EAB, I am sure you will like it here. There plenty of mischief to get upto

now are you interested in kits or assembled units?

Angus · 27 October 2007, 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angus

I would like a fully assembled external deluxe which I think is £23.

)

And that's a PAL one please Zetro - cheers.

27 October 2007, 23:27

I would like to get the fully assembled NTSC external deluxe version.

keropi · 27 October 2007, 23:32

Hey Zetrolicious, write me down for a "Narmi External Deluxe" fully assembled , it would be nice for test/debug of various amigas...

edit: PAL-a-licious plz

mrodfr · 28 October 2007, 07:42

Hello,

Zetr0 apparently have lots of customers allready :-)

Please raise a little the final prize, customers, for providing to Zetr0 a good supply of beers during the assembly work... (hum, after the assembly work !!!.... :-)

BinoX · 28 October 2007, 10:29

I'll go for a Narmi External Deluxe (fully assembled... don't have the time to assemble stuff)

And why not... a Narmi Internal Delux (once again, fully assembled) as well

alexh · 28 October 2007, 10:50

Not that I am wanting to put people off buying these great items, just out of curiosity, why are people based outside the USA (and perhap Oz) buying these?

USA I totally understand, you've got no RGB input, composite is your only real choice upto now, svideo should improve your quality quite a bit.

UK & Europe, you've got RGB inputs on all your TV equipment, why not just use them, it will be a much better picture than Svideo (33% more bandwidth!).

Perhaps I could understand if you've run out of RGB capable SCART sockets on your TV, but still, I would have thought that you'd go for a SCART switch box first....

Again, just curious.

DrF · 28 October 2007, 11:12

I think people are going crazy for them becuase :

Its NEW Amiga hardware I guess.
Its a all in 1 solution?
Can't really get anything similar from anywhere else or at least close to this bargain price.
It will help fund new Amiga hardware development (or pies)
Zetr0 made these units, hence they have a certain awesomeness digitally pressed into the very copper from which he pulled from the fire with his BARE hands!
Each unit contains a piece of Zetr0s soul and/or blood.
Like a phoenix arising from the ashes or something
Amiga owners buy all kinds of stuff for no reason other than to bask in the leetness of a by gone age?

keropi · 28 October 2007, 11:31

when things go wrong (or you come by an amiga without a scandoubler) then a SVHS output to connect to a pc/tv is way better than the normal vhs and more preferable than to unpack old amiga monitors/move a tv to the amiga...

26 October 2007, 23:28	#1
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	Amiga SVideo Adapters A500 / A600 / A1000 / A1200 / A4000 Hello there forum chummies, I am close to completion of the first prototype production run so here is where I now ask whom is interested in wanting one... to help with you decision I have some price guides. Price Guide Unpopulated PCB & Drilled (all include printed assembly instructions and bill of materials) "Narmi Internal Deluxe" £5 Internal 2 layer board Jumper configurable for NTSC or PAL (crystal needs to change to 3.54 ntsc) Composite / 15kz VGA and Svideo Internal fly-over card (fits in a12 expansion bay) "Narmi Internal Basic" £4 Simple 1 layer board PAL / NTSC "Narmi External Deluxe" £5 Includes positions for 15Khz VGA / Composite and SVideo PAL Only "Narmi External Basic" £4 Svideo PAL Only Output Price Guide Build at Home Kits (includes drilled PCB, assembly instructions, Capacitors, Resistors, AD724, oscillator and internal headers / cables) "Narmi Internal Basic" £10 PAL / NTSC "Narmi Internal Deluxe" £15 PAL / NTSC also includes Svideo Connector 15Pin VGA Connector Composite Connector "Narmi External Basic" £12.50 PAL ONLY also includes Enclosure Svideo Connector Composite Connector "Narmi External Deluxe" £18.50 PAL ONLY also includes Enclosure Svideo Connector 15Khz VGA Connector Composite Connector Fully Assembled item, please add £2.50 Postage for each kit costs £2 multiple kits will be +50p fully assembled kits might cost a little more depending on physical size (this should cover mainland Europe / UK / USA and Australia) if its any less I will reduce it, if its anymore, then I will pan-handle you for more money ....( maybe use those big puppy dog eyes.... i have some cut out on cardboard somewhere ) If you are interested in any of the above, please respond here, if you have any queries just let me know if there a specific modification or revision you would like just PM me I hope to get some pictures up over the weekend. If enough requests are generated I will have the boards professionally made this will reduce the cost a little bit Last edited by Zetr0; 27 October 2007 at 11:59. Reason: some updates

27 October 2007, 02:53	#2
bobsmith2012 Posts: n/a	I am interested in a "Narmi External Deluxe" fully assembled. PAL for me please. Last edited by bobsmith2012; 28 October 2007 at 00:38.

27 October 2007, 11:16	#4
cane Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: .hr Age: 45 Posts: 540	I''ll definitively take one, not sure yet which one - probably external since I have few Amigas. Can't wait to see the pictures so I can decide do I have the skills to solder something like that. Is this £2 international postage or only UK? Last edited by cane; 27 October 2007 at 11:18. Reason: Added question about postage.

28 October 2007, 10:50	#18
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Not that I am wanting to put people off buying these great items, just out of curiosity, why are people based outside the USA (and perhap Oz) buying these? USA I totally understand, you've got no RGB input, composite is your only real choice upto now, svideo should improve your quality quite a bit. UK & Europe, you've got RGB inputs on all your TV equipment, why not just use them, it will be a much better picture than Svideo (33% more bandwidth!). Perhaps I could understand if you've run out of RGB capable SCART sockets on your TV, but still, I would have thought that you'd go for a SCART switch box first.... Again, just curious. Last edited by alexh; 28 October 2007 at 10:55.

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27 October 2007, 10:10	#3
Angus Amiga Games Database Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: South West England Posts: 1,240	Hi Zetro, I'm a bit groggy from just waiting up, but I'm determined to respond quickly, so sorry if I am a bit fuzzy here I would like a fully assembled external deluxe which I think is £23. I only really need the Basic model, but for the price it seems the Deluxe makes sense. I assume the extra functions don't add any noise or anything to the S video? Good work, and where and when do you want me to send payment? Do you have paypal? Cheers, and have a good weekend.

27 October 2007, 11:43	#5
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,334	Zetro my good man, put me down for one of the External Deluxe's fully assembled please. And that's a deffo!

27 October 2007, 12:06	#6
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	I will let this run till Wednesday 31st Oct, then calculate the requests and revise the prices (which by theory will go down) so every one will be happy The Postage is likely to be around the £2 mark, I sent an Item of similar size to Binox (small packet in the UK) and a huge parcel to our Amigo Keropi in Greece and there was only a £1.50 difference... I have edited the above a little.... in fact I will edit it again, SO the external units can be (if so desired) NTSC... please state if you want NTSC or PAL, as this determines what Crystal Oscillator to use

27 October 2007, 12:20	#7
Calgor (Amigas && Amigos)++ Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Anrea Posts: 999	Put me down for a narmi external deluxe PAL, fully assembled. Any chance of being able to put a switch in to make it able to switch between PAL and NTSC (for an extra cost) ? Reason is so it can be used for smooth scrolling for both PAL/NTSC amiga modes. Also may be interested in a narmi internal deluxe PAL if you can describe how it is mounted internally (i.e. what it clips on to, and what amiga models it can work with inside). Maybe I will use this as my first soldering job!

27 October 2007, 12:37	#8
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,334	PAL version for me please chap

27 October 2007, 13:00	#9
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Calgor The input is irrelevant as it comes from the Amiga RGB, the PAL/NTSC is only the output of the SVideo / Composite. I can make a switchable one for you, that will be about £1.50 for the extra crystal and switch(s).

27 October 2007, 15:57	#10
mrodfr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: 62-France Age: 56 Posts: 413	@Zetr0 Put me down for a narmi external deluxe PAL, fully assembled (the complete deluxe full version) :-) as requested since weeks by me :-) thanks for the work involved on this project, narmi and Zetr0.

27 October 2007, 18:15	#11
adonay active amiga 1200 user Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Either Haugesund /Norway or Vaxjø Sweden Posts: 220	ok put me up for two internal Narmi Internal Deluxe i have wanted something like this for ages :-D. nicely done :-)

27 October 2007, 18:20	#12
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@adonay Hello there, Welcome to the EAB, I am sure you will like it here. There plenty of mischief to get upto now are you interested in kits or assembled units?

27 October 2007, 23:27	#14
twbrown Posts: n/a	I would like to get the fully assembled NTSC external deluxe version.

27 October 2007, 23:32	#15
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	Hey Zetrolicious, write me down for a "Narmi External Deluxe" fully assembled , it would be nice for test/debug of various amigas... edit: PAL-a-licious plz

28 October 2007, 07:42	#16
mrodfr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: 62-France Age: 56 Posts: 413	Hello, Zetr0 apparently have lots of customers allready :-) Please raise a little the final prize, customers, for providing to Zetr0 a good supply of beers during the assembly work... (hum, after the assembly work !!!.... :-)

28 October 2007, 10:29	#17
BinoX Miggy Man Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cornwall, United Kingdom Age: 40 Posts: 831	I'll go for a Narmi External Deluxe (fully assembled... don't have the time to assemble stuff) And why not... a Narmi Internal Delux (once again, fully assembled) as well

28 October 2007, 11:12	#19
DrF Blessed A1200 Of TeH Rat Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bham, UK Age: 42 Posts: 496	I think people are going crazy for them becuase : Its NEW Amiga hardware I guess. Its a all in 1 solution? Can't really get anything similar from anywhere else or at least close to this bargain price. It will help fund new Amiga hardware development (or pies) Zetr0 made these units, hence they have a certain awesomeness digitally pressed into the very copper from which he pulled from the fire with his BARE hands! Each unit contains a piece of Zetr0s soul and/or blood. Like a phoenix arising from the ashes or something Amiga owners buy all kinds of stuff for no reason other than to bask in the leetness of a by gone age?

28 October 2007, 11:31	#20
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	when things go wrong (or you come by an amiga without a scandoubler) then a SVHS output to connect to a pc/tv is way better than the normal vhs and more preferable than to unpack old amiga monitors/move a tv to the amiga...

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