Virtual Karting wrong colors.... (whdload version) - Page 3

killergorilla · 15 December 2006, 10:09

As Toni says...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Games that use shres-"smoothing"-trick need "filtered lo-res" option enabled in WinUAE or colors look really weird.

I've not tried it myself as I gave up bothering with this POS

The box should have had a message saying "this game will more thank likely look shit on yout TV"

alexh · 15 December 2006, 12:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

The box should have had a message saying "this game will more thank likely look shit on your TV"

On your scandoubled monitor surely? The whole point is it looks good on a TV?

killergorilla · 15 December 2006, 12:18

Not if you're using RF or Composite like I (unfortunately) am.

vroom6sri · 15 December 2006, 13:12

Tried filtered lores (and quite a few other combinations) but with no success. Shame. I enjoyed playing this demo and it looks like it flies along OK in WinUAE just makes you feel like you're on acid!

AmigaHope · 18 December 2006, 22:50

As an aside... I'm always amazed at all the people who used their Amigas on a TV o.o; ...back in the day I didn't know a single person who used a TV as their primary monitor (though occasionally we'd use a TV to show an animation or something to a bunch of people).

None of the Amiga dealers I went to even mentioned using it on a TV... ...and to be honest I don't think I'd want to considering how much better it looks on a monitor (and at the time we didn't have S-Video/component inputs on consumer TVs)...

I never realized until recently how many people were using TVs. I never met a person who did though until AFTER the bankruptcy. o.O

Oh and back on topic, I've never seen the color problem with VK on my A4000, though I think I only ever ran it on my A3640, and haven't tried to run it since I got the CSPPC.

StarEye · 20 December 2006, 00:55

I'm using a 14" TV, but it's a good one, and I'm using RGB Scart. It's a Sony Trinitron, and the coulours and sharpness is astonishing, it looks better than what my old 1084S did.

killergorilla · 20 December 2006, 10:25

I very much doubt there is anything in it anymore. A modern, decent quality TV through RGB will look better than a 10 year old monitor

I hate using my Amiga through composite but my RGB scart vanished off the face of the earth years ago.

vroom6sri · 21 December 2006, 09:17

I think I still have a lead to connect my Amiga to a monitor but don't have a monitor anymore. Is it the lead you need, Killergorilla?

killergorilla · 21 December 2006, 13:03

If it plugs into the RGB port on the back of the Amiga and has a Scart connector on the other end, then probably yes

I used to have one to connect to my 1084 but I think my brother must have eaten it or something.

vroom6sri · 21 December 2006, 13:31

Um... I think that's the one - Scart socket at one end and 25 (ish) pin socket at the other that connects to the monitor socket.

Not sure how I acquired it.

killergorilla · 21 December 2006, 13:32

yeah that's the one, looking to get rid of it?

vroom6sri · 21 December 2006, 14:23

Free to a good home and yours (due to all your apparent good deeds for the Amiga community) would certainly meet that requirement! PM me your address and I'll get it posted ASAP but I'll E-mail you a pic of it 1st to make sure it's defo the right one. I'm pretty sure it's in working order.

killergorilla · 21 December 2006, 16:09

You legend! I can finally properly test that whdload version of Virtual Karting 2

I'll PM you later, you sure you don't want me to cover postage or something?

vroom6sri · 22 December 2006, 09:36

If it IS the right lead it won't cost much to post and I've got some suitable recycled jiffy bag type things so happy to pay the postage myself (assuming you DO live in England!). Not sure when I'll get round to this though. I'm away for Xmas.

Mad-Matt · 22 December 2006, 12:37

ill have to check this out on my miggy and uae. ive played the game a few times and never had a color issue with it, not a very good game mind so maybe not for more then 10 mins at at a time

girv · 02 January 2007, 22:25

I found the attached text file just recently while poking around in an old source archive and I thought it might be interesting. It explains how the "hardware chunky" mode that VK uses works and includes some asm source code to show how it's done in practice.

Make of it what you will

vroom6sri · 21 January 2011, 21:30

So... to confirm - is it possible to get this looking how it should on my now accelerated A1200 which is connected to my LCD TV via an RGB scart lead? I have tried it with the scart lead and the RF cable and both look kak!

alexh · 21 January 2011, 23:34

Almost certainly not on LCD. It uses a feature of CRT electronics. RF should have shown the correct effect on your LCD if it were susceptible. There is little chance but try composite video?

viddi · 22 January 2011, 10:54

Luckily the Indivision scanline emulation does the trick.

Retro1234 · 22 January 2011, 16:42

When I tried this game the colours are all wrong on the first track but if I select another level there ok.

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15 December 2006, 12:18	#43
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Not if you're using RF or Composite like I (unfortunately) am.

15 December 2006, 13:12	#44
vroom6sri Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Peterborough Age: 47 Posts: 845	Tried filtered lores (and quite a few other combinations) but with no success. Shame. I enjoyed playing this demo and it looks like it flies along OK in WinUAE just makes you feel like you're on acid!

18 December 2006, 22:50	#45
AmigaHope Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Sandusky Posts: 942	As an aside... I'm always amazed at all the people who used their Amigas on a TV o.o; ...back in the day I didn't know a single person who used a TV as their primary monitor (though occasionally we'd use a TV to show an animation or something to a bunch of people). None of the Amiga dealers I went to even mentioned using it on a TV... ...and to be honest I don't think I'd want to considering how much better it looks on a monitor (and at the time we didn't have S-Video/component inputs on consumer TVs)... I never realized until recently how many people were using TVs. I never met a person who did though until AFTER the bankruptcy. o.O Oh and back on topic, I've never seen the color problem with VK on my A4000, though I think I only ever ran it on my A3640, and haven't tried to run it since I got the CSPPC.

20 December 2006, 00:55	#46
StarEye Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Norway Age: 46 Posts: 987	I'm using a 14" TV, but it's a good one, and I'm using RGB Scart. It's a Sony Trinitron, and the coulours and sharpness is astonishing, it looks better than what my old 1084S did.

20 December 2006, 10:25	#47
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	I very much doubt there is anything in it anymore. A modern, decent quality TV through RGB will look better than a 10 year old monitor I hate using my Amiga through composite but my RGB scart vanished off the face of the earth years ago.

21 December 2006, 09:17	#48
vroom6sri Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Peterborough Age: 47 Posts: 845	I think I still have a lead to connect my Amiga to a monitor but don't have a monitor anymore. Is it the lead you need, Killergorilla?

21 December 2006, 13:03	#49
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	If it plugs into the RGB port on the back of the Amiga and has a Scart connector on the other end, then probably yes I used to have one to connect to my 1084 but I think my brother must have eaten it or something.

21 December 2006, 13:31	#50
vroom6sri Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Peterborough Age: 47 Posts: 845	Um... I think that's the one - Scart socket at one end and 25 (ish) pin socket at the other that connects to the monitor socket. Not sure how I acquired it.

21 December 2006, 13:32	#51
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	yeah that's the one, looking to get rid of it?

21 December 2006, 14:23	#52
vroom6sri Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Peterborough Age: 47 Posts: 845	Free to a good home and yours (due to all your apparent good deeds for the Amiga community) would certainly meet that requirement! PM me your address and I'll get it posted ASAP but I'll E-mail you a pic of it 1st to make sure it's defo the right one. I'm pretty sure it's in working order.

21 December 2006, 16:09	#53
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	You legend! I can finally properly test that whdload version of Virtual Karting 2 I'll PM you later, you sure you don't want me to cover postage or something?

22 December 2006, 09:36	#54
vroom6sri Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Peterborough Age: 47 Posts: 845	If it IS the right lead it won't cost much to post and I've got some suitable recycled jiffy bag type things so happy to pay the postage myself (assuming you DO live in England!). Not sure when I'll get round to this though. I'm away for Xmas.

22 December 2006, 12:37	#55
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,848	ill have to check this out on my miggy and uae. ive played the game a few times and never had a color issue with it, not a very good game mind so maybe not for more then 10 mins at at a time

21 January 2011, 21:30	#57
vroom6sri Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Peterborough Age: 47 Posts: 845	So... to confirm - is it possible to get this looking how it should on my now accelerated A1200 which is connected to my LCD TV via an RGB scart lead? I have tried it with the scart lead and the RF cable and both look kak!

21 January 2011, 23:34	#58
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,354	Almost certainly not on LCD. It uses a feature of CRT electronics. RF should have shown the correct effect on your LCD if it were susceptible. There is little chance but try composite video?

22 January 2011, 10:54	#59
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,007	Luckily the Indivision scanline emulation does the trick.

22 January 2011, 16:42	#60
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,775	When I tried this game the colours are all wrong on the first track but if I select another level there ok.

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