The settlers music: falling tempo

lilalurl · 12 November 2005, 18:10

When playing the settlers music (mod.siedler ii @ unexotica) in deliplayer or winamp, at various theme variations (the first one being at approx. 2:50) the tempo decrease from the initial 125.
It results in a slower music than what is played on an Amiga.

I 'solve' this problem by using modplug tracker which easily allow to change the tempo while the music is playing (maybe Deliplayer or Winamp can, I haven't really checked).

Anyway, I'd like to know if this is supposed to be a normal behaviour/ due to player limitations (the module lasting almost 30 minutes) or if this module was not adequatly extracted which resulted in erroneous tempo information (and if so, if a kind soul could provide a perfect version).

Thanks in advance for any answer.

Jerry · 13 November 2005, 11:29

This is CIA/VBlank timing related, I think. In cia timing mode speed settings in protracker are used as vblank-values (0x00-0x1f) or as bpm parameters (0x20-0xff). However in vblank mode all values are considered vblank-values. I guess that the replay routines in deliplayer and winamp always assume cia-timing.

As there seems to be no switch in both players you would have to do it by hand. But I did it for you an so it's in the zone. Hope I didn't forget something...

lilalurl · 13 November 2005, 12:26

Thank you, it works great.

terryhan · 13 November 2005, 18:06

Thanks from me too!

Muerto · 29 May 2006, 21:52

Actually, theres a switch in DeliPlayer for this...
It can be found here: config/server/tracker

12 November 2005, 18:10	#1
lilalurl Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 3,289	The settlers music: falling tempo When playing the settlers music (mod.siedler ii @ unexotica) in deliplayer or winamp, at various theme variations (the first one being at approx. 2:50) the tempo decrease from the initial 125. It results in a slower music than what is played on an Amiga. I 'solve' this problem by using modplug tracker which easily allow to change the tempo while the music is playing (maybe Deliplayer or Winamp can, I haven't really checked). Anyway, I'd like to know if this is supposed to be a normal behaviour/ due to player limitations (the module lasting almost 30 minutes) or if this module was not adequatly extracted which resulted in erroneous tempo information (and if so, if a kind soul could provide a perfect version). Thanks in advance for any answer.

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13 November 2005, 11:29	#2
Jerry Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 210	This is CIA/VBlank timing related, I think. In cia timing mode speed settings in protracker are used as vblank-values (0x00-0x1f) or as bpm parameters (0x20-0xff). However in vblank mode all values are considered vblank-values. I guess that the replay routines in deliplayer and winamp always assume cia-timing. As there seems to be no switch in both players you would have to do it by hand. But I did it for you an so it's in the zone. Hope I didn't forget something...

13 November 2005, 12:26	#3
lilalurl Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 3,289	Thank you, it works great.

13 November 2005, 18:06	#4
terryhan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: a zombi filled shopping mall Posts: 103	Thanks from me too!

29 May 2006, 21:52	#5
Muerto Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kerteminde / Denmark Age: 48 Posts: 146	Actually, theres a switch in DeliPlayer for this... It can be found here: config/server/tracker

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