Gazza's Super Soccer - calling Swedes and Germans!

Codetapper · 03 February 2004, 10:58

While HD installing Gazza's Super Soccer I found some extra pictures on the disk in Atari ST NEO format. It seems that the game was to be released as Bodo Illgner's Super Soccer and Anders Limpar's Proffs Fotboll in Germany and Sweden.

One of the people involved with the game (Edward Grabowski) has his own website with a little information about the game.

It doesn't seem 100% guaranteed that the game was ever released with those alternate names for the Amiga, and I can't find any cracks in TOSEC either.

Does anybody know for sure whether these alternate names were released? And if so does anybody have the originals/cracks?

Codetapper · 03 February 2004, 10:59

Swedish version picture

Mr Creosote · 03 February 2004, 16:28

"Bodo Illgner's Super Soccer" was definitely released in Germany. I read a review in a gaming magazine back then.

Edit: This is the review: http://www.kultpower.de/powerplay_te...nerssoccer.jpg

DrBong · 03 February 2004, 16:36

Yes, I'm sure Bodo Illgner's Super Soccer was released. I've never heard of the Swedish release, though.

Dizzy · 03 February 2004, 17:10

Í thought Limpar was something you ate...

Well I remember Bodo Illgner, but only for some review, it might be one of those game only reviewer saw. Don't know if it ever was released in oublec...

Amiga1992 · 03 February 2004, 18:23

I remember Bodo Illgner as well, so that should have been released.

Codetapper · 03 February 2004, 19:51

So nobody have an ADF/original of either alternate game? If an original can be found I can crack this one in about 30 seconds -the copylock key is written in the game right near the top!

I am assuming the main EXE is different on the alternate names, otherwise it would still have "Gazza's Super Soccer" written in the middle of the main page. And there isn't enough room to simply hex edit the different titles into it.

Dizzy · 03 February 2004, 20:53

A quick search on Google shows that Anders Limpar is for C64 and mayby Atari (under the name Anders Limpar's Super Soccer)

And the Bodo Illgner version is mentioned here http://www.sciencedaily.com/encyclop...of_Amiga_games

andreas · 19 February 2004, 19:42

Quote:

Originally posted by Codetapper
So nobody have an ADF/original of either alternate game? If an original can be found I can crack this one in about 30 seconds -the copylock key is written in the game right near the top!

Unlikely; the game has been in Twists MIA list for more than a year now.

andreas · 20 February 2004, 12:10

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Creosote
"Bodo Illgner's Super Soccer" was definitely released in Germany.

100% verified and confirmed. Here is a box scan!

Codetapper · 20 February 2004, 21:56

Well done! Now we just need to locate a disk version...

gogoac · 27 February 2014, 16:24

Finally I was able to get a copy of Bodo Illgner's "Super" Soccer. Sadly the disk isn't working because of read/write errors. Nevertheless I made an adf file...

I found out that all the files on the disk seem to be identical with the Gazza's Super Soccer version (looking for example at the language text files from the Bodo version there isn't even a german ingame text for the game - just the same language files as for the english version).

I will make scans of the disk, manual, box etc for HOL later.

Should I upload the not working adf to the zone? (At least the game starts to load and you could see which files are on the disk)

Edit:
I've uploaded the adf to the zone. And I think I was wrong with the language files. There are just language txt files on the disk for the additional leagues/languages (ITA/SCO/DEN/FR). There is also no english txt file, so I guess that the main language informations are stored in another file which turns most likely a working version of Bodo into german.

CodyJarrett · 27 February 2014, 16:34

Yes please!

mai · 27 February 2014, 19:00

I think its even not possible to create working ADF of your Original, because of protection.

gogoac · 27 February 2014, 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

I think its even not possible to create working ADF of your Original, because of protection.

Thats possible for sure.

Beyond that the disk just doesn't "sound" that good and to be honest I'm not that experienced in Amiga-PC-Data transfer.

On my A600 the original disk doesn't even start loading while a copy of it (made with X-Copy) does but there are read/write errors soon.

If someone with more know-how than me thinks there is a real chance to make a good dump out of the disk I would have no problem sending him/her the disk.

Codetapper · 28 February 2014, 11:20

Some of the CAPS/SPS team are rather adept at repairing disks, they might be able to help. Some others on here have also used alcohol to clean junk off the disks enabling a good read of the data. It might be worth a try as the disk as it stands is rather munted!

As for the protection, if you managed to read the main game file it could be easily cracked (and the copylock data reconstructed by the SPS team too) so it would work, even if the copylock is broken. That's definitely the easy part! Reading the data correctly will be trickier.

Bamiga2002 · 28 February 2014, 11:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codetapper

Swedish version picture

That's pretty ghey

dlfrsilver · 28 February 2014, 16:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by gogoac

Finally I was able to get a copy of Bodo Illgner's "Super" Soccer. Sadly the disk isn't working because of read/write errors. Nevertheless I made an adf file...

I found out that all the files on the disk seem to be identical with the Gazza's Super Soccer version (looking for example at the language text files from the Bodo version there isn't even a german ingame text for the game - just the same language files as for the english version).

I will make scans of the disk, manual, box etc for HOL later.

Should I upload the not working adf to the zone? (At least the game starts to load and you could see which files are on the disk)

Edit:
I've uploaded the adf to the zone. And I think I was wrong with the language files. There are just language txt files on the disk for the additional leagues/languages (ITA/SCO/DEN/FR). There is also no english txt file, so I guess that the main language informations are stored in another file which turns most likely a working version of Bodo into german.

Beware !!! This game has a virus on the bootblock !!!!

EDIT : many files seems to have been eaten by the bytebandit virus....

gogoac · 28 February 2014, 18:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Beware !!! This game has a virus on the bootblock !!!!

EDIT : many files seems to have been eaten by the bytebandit virus....

Thanks for letting me know!

I checked the original disk and yes it has the bytebandit virus, damn I should have looked after this before (but this is the first original disk I have that contains a virus).
So I guess this means that the disk is more or less useless...

PS: I finished scanning the the manual and I will upload it to the HOL server.

mai · 28 February 2014, 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

EDIT : many files seems to have been eaten by the bytebandit virus....

really?
I was not aware, that those Byte Bandit causes permanent file damage.

03 February 2004, 10:58	#1
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	Gazza's Super Soccer - calling Swedes and Germans! While HD installing Gazza's Super Soccer I found some extra pictures on the disk in Atari ST NEO format. It seems that the game was to be released as Bodo Illgner's Super Soccer and Anders Limpar's Proffs Fotboll in Germany and Sweden. One of the people involved with the game (Edward Grabowski) has his own website with a little information about the game. It doesn't seem 100% guaranteed that the game was ever released with those alternate names for the Amiga, and I can't find any cracks in TOSEC either. Does anybody know for sure whether these alternate names were released? And if so does anybody have the originals/cracks? Attached Thumbnails

03 February 2004, 10:59	#2
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	Swedish version picture Attached Thumbnails

03 February 2004, 19:51	#7
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	Original or ADF anywhere? So nobody have an ADF/original of either alternate game? If an original can be found I can crack this one in about 30 seconds -the copylock key is written in the game right near the top! I am assuming the main EXE is different on the alternate names, otherwise it would still have "Gazza's Super Soccer" written in the middle of the main page. And there isn't enough room to simply hex edit the different titles into it.

27 February 2014, 16:24	#12
gogoac Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cologne/Germany Age: 43 Posts: 126	Finally I was able to get a copy of Bodo Illgner's "Super" Soccer. Sadly the disk isn't working because of read/write errors. Nevertheless I made an adf file... I found out that all the files on the disk seem to be identical with the Gazza's Super Soccer version (looking for example at the language text files from the Bodo version there isn't even a german ingame text for the game - just the same language files as for the english version). I will make scans of the disk, manual, box etc for HOL later. Should I upload the not working adf to the zone? (At least the game starts to load and you could see which files are on the disk) Edit: I've uploaded the adf to the zone. And I think I was wrong with the language files. There are just language txt files on the disk for the additional leagues/languages (ITA/SCO/DEN/FR). There is also no english txt file, so I guess that the main language informations are stored in another file which turns most likely a working version of Bodo into german. Last edited by gogoac; 27 February 2014 at 18:03.

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03 February 2004, 16:28	#3
Mr Creosote Evil Mastermind Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Home Posts: 740	"Bodo Illgner's Super Soccer" was definitely released in Germany. I read a review in a gaming magazine back then. Edit: This is the review: http://www.kultpower.de/powerplay_te...nerssoccer.jpg

03 February 2004, 16:36	#4
DrBong HOL / AMR Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 2,632	Yes, I'm sure Bodo Illgner's Super Soccer was released. I've never heard of the Swedish release, though.

03 February 2004, 17:10	#5
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	Í thought Limpar was something you ate... Well I remember Bodo Illgner, but only for some review, it might be one of those game only reviewer saw. Don't know if it ever was released in oublec...

03 February 2004, 18:23	#6
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,644	I remember Bodo Illgner as well, so that should have been released.

03 February 2004, 20:53	#8
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	A quick search on Google shows that Anders Limpar is for C64 and mayby Atari (under the name Anders Limpar's Super Soccer) And the Bodo Illgner version is mentioned here http://www.sciencedaily.com/encyclop...of_Amiga_games

20 February 2004, 21:56	#11
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	Well done! Now we just need to locate a disk version...

27 February 2014, 16:34	#13
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	Yes please!

27 February 2014, 19:00	#14
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	I think its even not possible to create working ADF of your Original, because of protection.

28 February 2014, 11:20	#16
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	Some of the CAPS/SPS team are rather adept at repairing disks, they might be able to help. Some others on here have also used alcohol to clean junk off the disks enabling a good read of the data. It might be worth a try as the disk as it stands is rather munted! As for the protection, if you managed to read the main game file it could be easily cracked (and the copylock data reconstructed by the SPS team too) so it would work, even if the copylock is broken. That's definitely the easy part! Reading the data correctly will be trickier.

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