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Old 06 June 2018, 14:59   #1
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Floppy disk CrossDos 7.04 Long File Names not working

I'm having trouble with 720K DOS formatted floppies not showing the files with long file names.

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CrossDOS 7.04 Gold (1998 Edition by CONSULTRON).

Acording to wikipedia:

CrossDOS 7 was the last version released and included support for long filenames and other features not available in the bundled version.

However, when insering a DOS 720K formated disk, workbench reads the disk ok, shows up as PC0:, however the file names are shortened to 8.3 filenames.

I've had a look in Workbench2.1:System/CrossDOS to see if there is any setting in there for long file names, but it just comes up with something to do with ASCII.

However, I did have trouble installing CrossDOS. I went through the instalation program and it was asking me to swap disks between Workbench2.1 and CrossDOS. It goes smoothly until after copying mfm.device. It then asks for the CrossDOS disk. However, when the CrossDOS disk is inserted, it is not reconised for some reason.

I had to revert to a manual install by copying the required files which are the following:

L:CrossDOSFileSytem
DEVS:mfm.device
C:Mount
SYS:system/Format
SYS:system/DiskCopy
SYS:system/CrossDOS

Upon running Dr_CrossDOS, it report's all OK.

Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 06 June 2018, 16:34   #2
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If it was formatted on a PC, you might succeed by formatting it on the Amiga..? As in, the file format on the disk was a pre-5.0 (or whichever version it was) MS-DOS version.
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Old 09 June 2018, 13:17   #3
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Ah ok I see. I'll give that a shot! Thanks
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Old 10 June 2018, 09:04   #4
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Tried formating disk in the amiga as 720K, still no long file names
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Old 10 June 2018, 12:18   #5
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Why not Fat95? I never bothered with commercial CrossDos.
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Old 10 June 2018, 21:10   #6
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Easiest solution is to put your files into archives then extract them on the Amiga..... filenames and file attributes all preserved correctly.
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Old 11 June 2018, 08:21   #7
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Aza1810, since you mean MS-DOS in your OP, maybe call it that? There are plenty of other DOSes out there, as this article shows: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOS

Otherwise, we won't quite know what you're referring to.
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Old 11 June 2018, 12:19   #8
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He specifically says it's a 720K DOS formatted disk. Leaves very little doubt as to what version of DOS it would be from.
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Old 11 June 2018, 21:05   #9
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He specifically says it's a 720K DOS formatted disk. Leaves very little doubt as to what version of DOS it would be from.
The Atari ST also used exactly the same MS-DOS file format and structure, not to mention disk capacity.
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Old 11 June 2018, 21:17   #10
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I had this working 20 years ago.

I cant remember exactly how I did it. But I am guessing it has to be formatted to use VFAT, which is the one from Windows 95 to have long file name support. Later Windows versions use FAT32, which I guess is not compatible with old CrossDos 7.x.

If not, you can wait for AmigaOS 3.1.4 that has a working CrossDos version that supports FAT32 long filenames and even more than that, has an asynchronous design which plays nicely with multitasking.
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Old 12 June 2018, 03:43   #11
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crossdos 7.04 support long file names and is working perfect here
nothing related to format the disk in pc or in the Amiga
you have to have crossdosfilesystem v7 on L dir and pc0 on devs/dos drivers
that's all



surely you are using an old file manager which don't support showing more than 30 characters
try a different filemanager as dopus 5 or dopus 4.16 on aminet
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Why not Fat95? I never bothered with commercial CrossDos.
I'm gonna try Fat95 and see if that works, thanks for the suggestion.
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crossdos 7.04 support long file names and is working perfect here
nothing related to format the disk in pc or in the Amiga
you have to have crossdosfilesystem v7 on L dir and pc0 on devs/dos drivers
that's all

surely you are using an old file manager which don't support showing more than 30 characters
try a different filemanager as dopus 5 or dopus 4.16 on aminet
Original post states that CrossDOSFileSystem is in L dir and PC0 is in devs/dos drivers. Not sure why it's not working. I'm going to try Fat95 as an alternative
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Old 13 June 2018, 10:49   #14
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Success! Fat95 works perfectly!

Thanks zipper!
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Old 13 June 2018, 14:15   #15
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Glad you saw the light! (I do have 7.02 and 7.04 but never even tried them - I'm a garbage collector...)
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Yeah, have been using Fat95 for years (decades?) now, always had long filename support, support for large disks, and was free. Haven't used CrossDOS itself since the early '00s at the latest.
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