RESHOOT - A1200,4000 & CD³² - Pre-Order - Page 5

buzzybee · 11 August 2016, 00:38

RESHOOT relies heavily on classic Amiga-Hardware and doesnt transfer well to RTG or something comparable. Makes much more sense for 3d-based chunky pixel games – any egoshooters for example. RESHOOT basically would have to be redesigned and reengineered to make us of the advanced resolution and color depth. Won´t happen, sorry guys.

Overflow · 11 August 2016, 00:44

You misunderstand me

Im merely suggesting that there is a surge in people going from dormant to active again due to Vampire, me being one of them.

With regards to Vampire; not even suggesting you should remake Reshooter to accomodate the performance/capabilities.
I just mentioned Vampire as something for you to have in the back of your heads next time you develop a game (if Reshoot sales encourage this).
The new baseline for a rather large section of the Classic user crowd will be atleast 060 level performance with 128 megabyte of ram (+whatever they have in chipmem, usually 2megs).

Again, not even suggesting that Reshoot should be re-developed to Vampire specs.

buzzybee · 11 August 2016, 00:53

Got you.

Still, I am not so sure about the tech-baseline. In fact I get a lot of positive response from people who love the fact that they will be able to just boot up and play RESHOOT on their CD32.

bubbob42 · 11 August 2016, 08:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzybee

. In fact i get a lot of positive response from people who love the fact that they will be able to just boot up and play reshoot on their cd32.

+1

eXeler0 · 11 August 2016, 10:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzybee

Got you.

Still, I am not so sure about the tech-baseline. In fact I get a lot of positive response from people who love the fact that they will be able to just boot up and play RESHOOT on their CD32.

Yes, you have a perfectly valid point here - it is a nice thing and surely appreciated. :-) (I myself prefer to play many stock 1200 games on the CD32 and more demanding games on the 1200)

But regarding the Vampire comments, it was mostly to point out that there is an awakening in the community and you have about 600 presumably active ppl with Vampires (and numbers will rise a lot with the v500) in their A600 who don't have AGA, but technically - plenty of power to play A1200 level (or better) games.

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Amiga1992 · 11 August 2016, 16:42

Vampie will eventually get AGA emulation.

eXeler0 · 12 August 2016, 01:28

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Originally Posted by Akira

Vampie will eventually get AGA emulation.

I know, but game sales are usually a lot about timing. The hype eventually goes away and ppl move on to other stuff so the window of opportunity is probably somewhat limited.
But if the (s)AGA support comes soon, then that could probably be good for Reshoot sales.

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Overflow · 12 August 2016, 09:41

Developers just have to be mindful of such developments, and then bump this thread, in addition to on other forums, to remind people of the game.

invent · 12 August 2016, 13:04

Hi Overflow, sorry for the delay, thought it best to supply the full resolution image that was used for box cover, people can scale/convert to any resolution they desire.

My Blog Post

Sample of the 24bit 960x600 Below (slightly cropped)

I have also exported an 8 colour version at 960x600

Prosonic · 12 August 2016, 14:34

so how do I order and how much shipping to australia

blade002 · 12 August 2016, 14:37

And just how many A1200 owners have a CD-Drive hooked up to their machine?

Yeah, great... looks like I won't be getting it then

Overflow · 12 August 2016, 14:53

I just plan to transfer the game from the cd to a CF card on my PC, but yeah, its why I was querying about a digital download

Overflow · 12 August 2016, 14:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by invent

Hi Overflow, sorry for the delay, thought it best to supply the full resolution image that was used for box cover, people can scale/convert to any resolution they desire.

My Blog Post

Sample of the 24bit 960x600 Below (slightly cropped)

I have also exported an 8 colour version at 960x600

Wow! Thats a REALLY nice wallpaper!

Some really awesome talent in this crew, and it bodes well for future games!

blade002 · 12 August 2016, 14:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overflow

I just plan to transfer the game from the cd to a CF card on my PC, but yeah, its why I was querying about a digital download

Sorry mate, I didn't see that query you made, hopefully there will be one

Amiga1992 · 12 August 2016, 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by blade002

And just how many A1200 owners have a CD-Drive hooked up to their machine?

Ughhhh

Put the disc in your PC/Mac/whatever and copy the contents to a folder, then transfer that to your Amiga.

DamienD · 12 August 2016, 16:31

...but won't you loose file attributes?

Surely it's best to do this from a CD-ROM in a real Amiga?

Amiga1992 · 12 August 2016, 16:34

Which file attributes specifically? I don't see any reason why this doesn't work, just like WinUAE can take folders as hard drives and everything works fine.

DamienD · 12 August 2016, 16:54

Firstly, I'm no expert on this so someone with more Amiga knowledge please feel free to jump in at any time

So, it's my understanding that Amiga file attributes are as follows:

Windows / MAC computer don't have the same file attributes so if you copy from one of these computers and say a file had "Script" set then it must get lost?

Isn't this the same issue that people have sometimes with WHDLoad files i.e. extracting on a computer as opposed to an Amiga?

Amiga1992 · 12 August 2016, 17:22

I'd like the input from an expert like Thomas or Toni Wilen, but repeatedly I have used WinUAE folders and FAT partitions on my Amiga without problems, extracting stuff with WinRAR. It works every time. Rarely I run into issues and usually it's related to filename problems (Amiga filesystems allow certain chars that Windows does not, like *)

It is often the case that I take a WHDLoad game, extract it on my PC using WinRAR to my FAT formatted SD card, then pop that into my Amiga and it works. No file attributes are changed that I can tell but I'll make a test right now.

DamienD · 12 August 2016, 18:08

I too would like clarity from an expert

Recent examples though of issues cause when extracting the .ZIP from a computer in the "Center Court 2 [1997 unreleased Amiga AGA tennis game]" thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarEye

I may be a bit rusty with fiddling with the Amiga, but I get "tennis_organizer: file is not executable" when I try to run the game (on a real Amiga 1200 with Blizzard 1230-IV and 32mb fast). I used the Zip-file that SecondService provided, not the adfs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobe

Probably somewhere(on PC side) in transfer you lost protection bit. Try clicking on file, go to Icons menu, Informations, check executable and save.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobe

Don't unpack the archive on pc. Transfer the archive to Amiga and unpack it there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by daxb

And you may need to set the executable bits as already mentioned here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikrokernel

Ok i have unzip to Ram Disk CC2_2016.zip and setting executable bit but another error!! the message is: the file is not executable

Quote:

Originally Posted by daxb

You may forgot to set the "e" bit on one or more files? In main dir all the files that begin with "tennis_" need to changed.

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11 August 2016, 00:38	#81
buzzybee Registered User Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Landsberg / Germany Posts: 526	RESHOOT relies heavily on classic Amiga-Hardware and doesnt transfer well to RTG or something comparable. Makes much more sense for 3d-based chunky pixel games – any egoshooters for example. RESHOOT basically would have to be redesigned and reengineered to make us of the advanced resolution and color depth. Won´t happen, sorry guys.

11 August 2016, 00:44	#82
Overflow Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Norway Posts: 387	You misunderstand me Im merely suggesting that there is a surge in people going from dormant to active again due to Vampire, me being one of them. With regards to Vampire; not even suggesting you should remake Reshooter to accomodate the performance/capabilities. I just mentioned Vampire as something for you to have in the back of your heads next time you develop a game (if Reshoot sales encourage this). The new baseline for a rather large section of the Classic user crowd will be atleast 060 level performance with 128 megabyte of ram (+whatever they have in chipmem, usually 2megs). Again, not even suggesting that Reshoot should be re-developed to Vampire specs.

11 August 2016, 00:53	#83
buzzybee Registered User Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Landsberg / Germany Posts: 526	Got you. Still, I am not so sure about the tech-baseline. In fact I get a lot of positive response from people who love the fact that they will be able to just boot up and play RESHOOT on their CD32.

11 August 2016, 16:42	#86
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Vampie will eventually get AGA emulation.

12 August 2016, 09:41	#88
Overflow Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Norway Posts: 387	Developers just have to be mindful of such developments, and then bump this thread, in addition to on other forums, to remind people of the game.

12 August 2016, 13:04	#89
invent pixels Join Date: May 2014 Location: Australia Age: 52 Posts: 476	Hi Overflow, sorry for the delay, thought it best to supply the full resolution image that was used for box cover, people can scale/convert to any resolution they desire. My Blog Post Sample of the 24bit 960x600 Below (slightly cropped) I have also exported an 8 colour version at 960x600

12 August 2016, 14:34	#90
Prosonic Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Morwell Victoria Australia Age: 49 Posts: 113	so how do I order and how much shipping to australia

12 August 2016, 14:37	#91
blade002 Zone Friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Australia Age: 50 Posts: 2,616	And just how many A1200 owners have a CD-Drive hooked up to their machine? Yeah, great... looks like I won't be getting it then

12 August 2016, 14:53	#92
Overflow Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Norway Posts: 387	I just plan to transfer the game from the cd to a CF card on my PC, but yeah, its why I was querying about a digital download

12 August 2016, 16:31	#96
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	...but won't you loose file attributes? Surely it's best to do this from a CD-ROM in a real Amiga?

12 August 2016, 16:34	#97
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Which file attributes specifically? I don't see any reason why this doesn't work, just like WinUAE can take folders as hard drives and everything works fine.

12 August 2016, 16:54	#98
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Firstly, I'm no expert on this so someone with more Amiga knowledge please feel free to jump in at any time So, it's my understanding that Amiga file attributes are as follows: Windows / MAC computer don't have the same file attributes so if you copy from one of these computers and say a file had "Script" set then it must get lost? Isn't this the same issue that people have sometimes with WHDLoad files i.e. extracting on a computer as opposed to an Amiga?

12 August 2016, 17:22	#99
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I'd like the input from an expert like Thomas or Toni Wilen, but repeatedly I have used WinUAE folders and FAT partitions on my Amiga without problems, extracting stuff with WinRAR. It works every time. Rarely I run into issues and usually it's related to filename problems (Amiga filesystems allow certain chars that Windows does not, like *) It is often the case that I take a WHDLoad game, extract it on my PC using WinRAR to my FAT formatted SD card, then pop that into my Amiga and it works. No file attributes are changed that I can tell but I'll make a test right now.

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