Ishar AGA protection fails

[dlfrsilver]

about ishar v1.4 new slave, the copy protection is cleared and the 'patience' part is faster cool !!!

[CFou!]

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

about ishar v1.4 new slave, the copy protection is cleared and the 'patience' part is faster cool !!!

i'am not tested new save, is it fast too (normaly yes i use last kickemul)?

(no amiga or winaue here)

[CFou!]

have somebody savegame before another manual protectin test?

[dlfrsilver]

in order to test it fully, can you make a custom with infinite energy for all characters ?
With this we will be able to completely travel in the game without interruption and then trigger any protection tests if there is.........

[Chain]

http://chain.3dgrafika.cz/amiga/ishar2aga/

[CFou!]

Originally Posted by Chain

http://chain.3dgrafika.cz/amiga/ishar2aga/

wonderful i can start to investigate (this evening)

[Predseda]

Originally Posted by CFOU!

wonderful i can start to investigate (this evening)

Thats Ishar 2 in chain's post, has the same problems.

[CFou!]

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

in order to test it fully, can you make a custom with infinite energy for all characters ?
With this we will be able to completely travel in the game without interruption and then trigger any protection tests if there is.........

quickly look

if you want more money and no have many savegame

just edit savegame offset $1DF

by exmaple if you set $99 at offset $1DF you will have 153 000 GOLD COINS


ps:

this evening i will try to add unlimited COINS for PL1, if is easy i will try to add unlimited NRJ (via CUSTOM)

[Marcuz]

If you'll ever do some training option for the series of Ishar (all 3 of them), to make infinite stamina is more important than infinite health, as the 3 games are harder because of the food consumption in combat than because actual fights...

[CFou!]

Originally Posted by Marcuz

If you'll ever do some training option for the series of Ishar (all 3 of them), to make infinite stamina is more important than infinite health, as the 3 games are harder because of the food consumption in combat than because actual fights...

for help me in this task... can you done and upload a savegame for the 3 ishar with full team?

i need it to add & to test trainer with each players...

[CFou!]

Originally Posted by Marcuz

If you'll ever do some training option for the series of Ishar (all 3 of them), to make infinite stamina is more important than infinite health, as the 3 games are harder because of the food consumption in combat than because actual fights...

i am just reading your message here:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=188222&postcount=4

have you again some offset for some skills? (i will start using savegame loading code to found needed skills in memory )

[Marcuz]

About the offsets: sadly no, I never wrote them down at the time, I just corrected what I needed and kept a couple of spare savegames for when something did go wrong, but that's almost 20 years ago, I haven't those file anymore.

But of course I can reproduce that and create savegames for that task: I'll do it this weekend or in the spare time this week.

[CFou!]

Originally Posted by Marcuz

About the offsets: sadly no, I never wrote them down at the time, I just corrected what I needed and kept a couple of spare savegames for when something did go wrong, but that's almost 20 years ago, I haven't those file anymore.

But of course I can reproduce that and create savegames for that task: I'll do it this weekend or in the spare time this week.

ok i will seek

if you had already done work, i'll save times

[CFou!]

for Isahr trainer here memory information for by hand modification with monitor:
only for ARAMIR but offset are pehaps same for other player (to test)

; ISHAR AGA Memory Trainer
;------------------
; Seek in CHIP MEMORY: 'ARAMIR'
; Start= adress of first 'ARAMIR' letter
; or START = $5BB56 on 69320 & 68030
; or Start = $5C756 on 68040 & 68060 (+$c00)
;
; Start+$42.W coins 1 to 7FFF (32767) 1 for 1000 coins
; Start+$36.W vitality 1 TO 7FFF (32767)
; Start+$1B0.B Physical 1 TO 7F (127)
; Start+$1A8.B Mental 1 TO 7F (127)

; ISHAR AGA Memory Trainer
;------------------
; Seek in CHIP MEMORY: 'ARAMIR'
; Start= adress of first 'ARAMIR' letter
; or START = $5BB56 on 69320 & 68030
; or Start = $5C756 on 68040 & 68060 (+$c00)
;
; Start+$42.W coins 1 to 7FFF (32767) 1 for 1000 coins ; 5C798
; Start+$36.W vitality 1 TO 7FFF (32767) ; 5C78D
; Start+$1B0.B Physical 1 TO 7F (127) ; 5C906
; Start+$1A8.B Mental 1 TO 7F (127) ; 5C

now i this i have found solution to add trainer to Ishar AGA & ECS

it's difficult because it's game interpreter which change all players startistics

but code to modify statistic is used for many another feature

not only a simple 'sub.B' to replace by 'Tst.b' if not all game will be corrupt

but i'am an idea i will try tommorow

[CFou!]

Hi Guys,

Can you try this slave?

the trainer is forced (for the moment)

so you can't lose Physics, mental vitality and coins

but all this skill can increased

for the coins you can lose from 1 to 999

but the thousands can only increase but not decrease ... (so you are unlimited save )

can you test it?

if it's ok, I will add the trainer vai custom tooltype (on ECS & AGA)

ps:
Only the trainer has ARAMIR

[Marcuz]

Tested on AGA, it works: the saving and loading works too.
The game is a slower /less responsive) than on real amiga + disks, but it always has been like that with Ishar games on whdload, so, not really a problem.

I would only ask that you separate the various bits of the trainer, as the only really boring thing is the stamina decreasing, while I'm not sure if there are parts in the game where the decreasing of other values is useful, for instance, if you want a character dying without having to kill it yourself, and you expose it to the attacks of a monster.

Anyway, thank you! It'a very good job Bertrand!

[edit] I'll do the research on the other characters in any case, this weekend so if you'll have time to add the trainer to them too, you'll have an easier time doing it.

[CFou!]

Originally Posted by Marcuz

Tested on AGA, it works: the saving and loading works too.
The game is a slower /less responsive) than on real amiga + disks, but it always has been like that with Ishar games on whdload, so, not really a problem.

I would only ask that you separate the various bits of the trainer, as the only really boring thing is the stamina decreasing, while I'm not sure if there are parts in the game where the decreasing of other values is useful, for instance, if you want a character dying without having to kill it yourself, and you expose it to the attacks of a monster.

Anyway, thank you! It'a very good job Bertrand!

[edit] I'll do the research on the other characters in any case, this weekend so if you'll have time to add the trainer to them too, you'll have an easier time doing it.

for speed problem it's cause because ihar dont love fast memory =>gfx bug and crash

i will try to relocated par of code in fast...

for trainer bitd options was already planned but before i need a test

remark:
if you restart game all trainer values can't decrease so if you are a save game with strong team and restart game, you will star game with your strong ARARIR ...

[Marcuz]

Originally Posted by CFOU!

remark:
if you restart game all trainer values can't decrease so if you are a save game with strong team and restart game, you will star game with your strong ARARIR ...

Sorry, I fail to understand: do you mean that the stats of the immortal character gets carried on from one game to the next (if you don't exit the program) because the trainer don't let them decrease, so for instance if Aramir has gone to lvl. 5 of experience and has 200HP and 5000 gold pieces, if I restart the game, Aramir will be again like that (except the level of experience)?

Wouldn't in that case be sufficient to exit the game and start it again?

Or I have misunderstood completely?

[CFou!]

Originally Posted by Marcuz

Sorry, I fail to understand: do you mean that the stats of the immortal character gets carried on from one game to the next (if you don't exit the program) because the trainer don't let them decrease, so for instance if Aramir has gone to lvl. 5 of experience and has 200HP and 5000 gold pieces, if I restart the game, Aramir will be again like that (except the level of experience)?

Wouldn't in that case be sufficient to exit the game and start it again?

Or I have misunderstood completely?

you have goodly understand!!!

i have choiced this solution because code is a complexe interpreter
so you have not by example simple following instruction:

sub.l D7,_vitality

To decrease vitality.

in this case it's will be easy to do trainer just replace it by:
'tst.' function or remove it

but Ishar use generic code for 'Move.w', 'move.b' et 'add.b', etc...

in this case:
move.w (a4)+,d7
add.b d7,(0,a1,d0.w)

by example previous part of code is used for all 'add.b' and 'sub.b' access of ishar game (datas not only for vitality & physical)

more over there are no 'sub.' function

it's same 'add' function which is use (but with negative value in D7)

for information, this interpreter code explain why game is also slow
for a simple sub.b game use more 30 cpu intruction!!!!

[CFou!]

i am just founding trainer for pl2, it's just word or octed after PL1 (it's too easy )