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Old 27 September 2008, 19:31   #1
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Amiga ANSI Art - What is this style?

I'm sure most of you know the Amiga and DOS styles of ASCII/ANSI art but I recently remembered seeing a completely different style that was occasionally used in displayme files and DMS banners that I can't really describe or find any information about. Attached is an example of this "3rd style" ripped from Skid Row's Mavis Beacon disk, note that the only way to display it correctly is in a CLI/Shell, using custom fonts, a text editor or PC based program won't work right because of the escape sequences used.

What is this style called? How were they created/edited? Does anyone have more of these files? Why can't I find any info on the Web about this stuff?

Edit: This is what it should look like:

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Old 28 September 2008, 09:43   #2
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If I remember correctly there was a utility that would create these from images so you could use them in ads that would display when you would decompress a DMS disk image. Usually these would be added by a door on the BBS it was leeched from. I currently have a DMS adder running on my bbs but am using regular Amiga ASCII in my ad.

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While I appreciate the response it doesn't answer any of my questions as I'm already familiar with DMS adders/checkers/repackers.

I should have looked more carefully for tools that can create these ANSIs as there are several of them on aminet including Iff2Ansi which I used to make the abime.net logo attached below.

So that's one question down... can anybody answer any more?
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I've never really seen it used outside of SkidRow releases. But, there are several versions of the Skid Row logo using this technique. (Sorry I'm not more help...)
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Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing 2? FFS
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Old 29 September 2008, 02:20   #6
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Ahh i used to do this (an before it was used in 'intros' ) .. Its just the top line of 'characters'.
See the pic i output the letters A A A A T A A A A then a space, moving down a pixel (and back 1 char) after every letter output. That draws a cross from the pixels left behind.
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I never knew you could move pixels in AmigaDOS ANSI. Interesting.
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Yeah it was a pretty nice technique I saw used on many startup-sequences so you could display arbitrary bitmaps. I've seen it used to display color images as well. A long time ago I also saw the Amiga's escape sequences used as a way to display output from a Hebrew-language editor (right-to-left script liked Hebrew and Arabic was totally supported in the fonts and OS rendering routines, but not well supported in actual programs, so you had to use specialized word processors etc, but with the right escape codes they could be displayed fine just dumped to the CLI).

(Amigas were semi-popular in Israel and ridiculously popular in some Arab countries - 70% market share in Iraq in 1990 -- so a fair amount of workaround software got made. This also means that the 1991 Gulf war actually killed Commodore's biggest market in the middle east)
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Wow... i had completely forgotten about this. Thanks for unlocking those memories lol
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Old 28 April 2019, 19:06   #10
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Are there any conversion tools for this kind of ANSI-Art?
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Old 28 April 2019, 20:49   #11
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Find one (including source) in this thread.
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Hey! aNACHRONiST of iMPURE here. I would not call this an ANSI style as it uses something other than ANSI ESC[ codes for composition. This is pixel art with a tortured and very clever process of manipulating text characters.
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It uses ANSI ESC[ codes, but they are Amiga console specific ones.

CSI #p	Name Definition
--- --- ---- -------------------------------------------------
y   1-	aSTO  SET TOP OFFSET (private Amiga sequence)
Or do you mean ANSI as in ansi.sys supported commands only? :-)

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Just PM Subzero on here as im pretty sure he was the one who did those ansi screens for Skid Row
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Interesting! I have to say that even if the method of pixel manipulation is accomplished via special CSI sequences, to me it's still pixel art. In "Amiga ASCII"(Topaz ANSI) and Codepage 437 ANSI the art is composed of the characters, not by graphic effects.

I still think it is a very cool effect though and would also like to see more examples
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There's an ANSI editor (Died v2.8c) on Compact #056 (1991)(Skid Row).
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Just PM Subzero on here as im pretty sure he was the one who did those ansi screens for Skid Row
you know me Phill, indeed me did most of ascii or intro text all the time, as for this ascii. there was a tool for, but cant remember the name ... hmmm
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