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Old 25 January 2017, 07:37   #1
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Appiah's comprehensive 15KHz monitors list of caveat emptor

I've been on the lookout for a cheap 2nd hand 15KHz capable TFT recently and found it exceptionally difficult to get a hold of a list of what to look for. The information seems to be spread out around on the internet in the form of blog posts, videos, forum threads and whatnot and it took me a good long night's work to compile everything I found into a single worksheet so that others may not suffer as I did.

The sources I used in the process are (in case you want to dig in further):

Amibay list thread: http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php...al-23pin-conns
Amiga.org thread: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=71775
Amigaworld.net thread: http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/...35380&forum=25
Atari Wiki (courtesy of demolition): http://www.atari-wiki.com/index.php/Flat_Panel_Displays
EAB thread: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=80217
Retropix list: http://www.retropix.com.br/lista-de-...aceitam-15khz/
Wikidot list: http://15khz.wikidot.com/

Anyway, the compiled list can be found here as a google sheet and I hope it helps somebody.

I ended up removing the CODE block here because maintaining the list both in thread and on Google Docs is too much of a hassle.

I want to stress that I did not personally confirm any of this and can't be held responsible for any purchases that end up not working, I'm just compiling the reports of others' posted on the internet. I'll probably be buying the FN510 to confirm in a month or two. If you have any monitors you can confirm I'll add them to the list.

Cheers.

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Old 25 January 2017, 09:09   #2
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Perhaps you could paste the list here so people can see it without needing a login and requesting access?

There is also this list, however it might be an overlap of the other ones:
http://www.atari-wiki.com/index.php/Flat_Panel_Displays
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Old 25 January 2017, 09:19   #3
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Perhaps you could paste the list here so people can see it without needing a login and requesting access?

There is also this list, however it might be an overlap of the other ones:
http://www.atari-wiki.com/index.php/Flat_Panel_Displays
I will check this list and add to it as well. I will update the OP with a message imbedded list.

EDIT: Both lists updated.

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Old 25 January 2017, 11:23   #4
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Brand        Model                     Type    Screen S15kHz   Comments
Acer         AL1917                            19      Partial Monochrome works, but is not nicely centered. (for ATARI ST)
You're including a lot of monitors which only work in ST high resolution mode, which is basically VGA. In other words, this list is more dangerous than helpful.
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Old 25 January 2017, 11:43   #5
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You're including a lot of monitors which only work in ST high resolution mode, which is basically VGA. In other words, this list is more dangerous than helpful.
I did mark them as Partial and kept comments saying low res does not work, but if you thin it's better to mark these monitors as no 15khz I'll go ahead and revise that.
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Old 25 January 2017, 15:45   #6
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Only use the ones mentioned as low/med compatible. All monitors are compatible with ST high since it's 31 kHz.
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Old 25 January 2017, 16:15   #7
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Only use the ones mentioned as low/med compatible. All monitors are compatible with ST high since it's 31 kHz.
Alright will do tonight EDIT: FIXED

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Old 26 January 2017, 00:23   #8
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Thanks for starting this list, appiah4!
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I own a Dell U2412M monitor and it does sync to Amiga 15kHz modes in 50Hz (PAL) only. 60Hz (NTSC) doesn't work.

Also listed as 15kHz compatible in the linked Amibay thread.

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The LG V2363W monitor sort of syncs to the 15kHz too, but the image is stretched horizontally, flattened vertically and there's random garbage on the bottom. "Works" in both 50Hz (PAL) and 60Hz (NTSC) modes.
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I own a Dell U2412M monitor and it does sync to Amiga 15kHz modes in 50Hz (PAL) only.
Looks quite decent in the photo with proper aspect ratio, and this model is quite common here in Denmark unlike the BenQ models. Have you tried out any games to test out the motion smoothness?
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I own a Dell U2412M monitor and it does sync to Amiga 15kHz modes in 50Hz (PAL) only. 60Hz (NTSC) doesn't work.

Also listed as 15kHz compatible in the linked Amibay thread.

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I own a P2414H and wonder if mine would sync as well..
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Old 28 March 2017, 09:57   #13
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Are the Samsung TFT´s recommended?

Like this here:
Samsung SyncMaster 713N LCD 17 Yes


i can get this very cheap.

Does anyone testet this Samsung and have pictures/Video how the Amiga Screen looks ?
 
Old 30 March 2017, 10:39   #14
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Are the Samsung TFT´s recommended?

Like this here:
Samsung SyncMaster 713N LCD 17 Yes


i can get this very cheap.

Does anyone testet this Samsung and have pictures/Video how the Amiga Screen looks ?
Well.. If it's that cheap, why not get it, try and let us know? Contribute to science and knowledge.. We all should do what we must because we can!
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Old 30 March 2017, 11:21   #15
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I own a Dell u2412M and it's working perfectly with an Amiga 1200....
 
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Old 30 March 2017, 12:13   #17
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Through VGA cable....
 
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My new Dell SE2717H syncs down to 15KHz when using a buffered VGA adaptor. Not sure if it would work with an unbuffered one.

Gotta say, picture quality is pretty good but not perfect (you can see pixels squished together in grids). I have to admit that it's 100% perfect when using my internal scandoubler paired with 5:4 and some adjustments. The monitor syncs down to 50Hz perfectly and the scandoubler works out the rest for some pixel-perfect, awesomely smooth Amiga action!
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Can you put it in 4:3 mode?
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Can you put it in 4:3 mode?
Yep, but even better, it has a 5:4 mode! Which, from what I've read around, is the aspect ratio an Amiga is made for
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