Deluxe Paint - What can it be used for, and how? - Page 3

Doc Mindie · 05 April 2009, 17:50

First thing that comes to _my_ mind.... why use DPaint and not Personal Paint from Cloanto? PPaint has quite a few things DPaint doesn't... like the filter thingies, multiple undo, and so on... and was likely why DPaint was dumped in PPaints favour the last year or so Amiga's was produced.

Predabot · 05 April 2009, 19:33

Personal Paint vs ImageFX huh? Hmm, personal Paint or ImageFx...

Has anyone used both programs, and know how they work?

Leffmann · 06 April 2009, 00:17

As for Personal Paint I would say it's equal to Deluxe Paint in the sense that they're both geared for pixelling more than image editing and manipulation. Personal Paint does have some simple programmable image filters (convolution filters and that sort) but it's nothing spectacular. They each have features that the other one lacks, and though I prefer Deluxe Paint I wouldn't say that one of them is superior to the other.

kriz · 06 April 2009, 08:10

You should use more than only one software.. Try them all and use whats good in them.

vodley · 06 April 2009, 08:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by kriz

You should use more than only one software.. Try them all and use whats good in them.

That's what my Amiga work-style was about, keeping the apps open, flipping through the screens to access apps for their individual desired features and strengths. Amiga creativity, for me, infers that modular approach, not just a good app.

J.Tramiel · 06 April 2009, 18:21

Forget all them Amiga and PC graphics bollocks -

OCP Art Studio on teh Speccy is where it's at...

Just check out them features - it's even Kempston Joystick compatible!

BOOYAKASHA!

25 April 2009, 10:15

Hello

Ill just list a few of the Paint programs / etc, that i used over the course of time, when i had an amiga, which was from 1987 - stopped using around 1999 but still have my old trusty A4000T with CSPPC and Vlab Motion ;-) (just now installed in a new Lian Li V1110B case ;-)

Paint / Animation programs:

Deluxe Paint 1-5 first paint program
Photon Paint 1-2 first paint program to support HAM
Digi Paint 1-3 also supporting HAM
Brilliance 1-2 - similar to Deluxe paint, but more focus on painting than the animation of Deluxe paint
Personal Paint
Disney Animation Studio - catoonish animation focus with cells

With Specific hardware:
DCTV Paint paint program to support 262144 colors via a hardware addon
TV Paint - paint program used in conjunction with Video Toaster hardware, afaik.

Image manipulation programs (professional suites)
The Art Department 1-2
- Morph Plus - morphing software to be used with TAD - better than most other morph software released

Image FX 1-4

and then there were

Scala (presentations)
art expression
and many others ...

Also, i took a look at google and viola

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_p...ivity_software

if you read through that one, there are a lot of things i have forgotten to write, or simply didnt know existed

here is one particular quote from that text :
"Comics and Cartoons

Comic Setter was an interesting tools to create printed comics by arranging brushes representing comic characters, joining it with background images and superimposing it the right frames and "ballons" with their own text speech and captions. It could then print in color the comics that were created.

Disney Animation Studio was one of the most powerful 2D programs for realizing cartoons. Born on Amiga, this program, equipped also with a complete cell-frame preview feature was used by many cartoon studios worldwide at its age, and it is still used by some several studios in Europe[1] as an useful preview tool."

So, for your case, Comic Setter would probably be a good idea!

I knew about Disneys animation studio, and have used it to a smaller degree. I previously used Deluxe Paint a lot, and also Image FX, Art Department, and Movie Shop.

All the Best ;-)

/eskildsen

Predabot · 25 April 2009, 18:05

Thanks for the info Eskildsen.

Comic Setter seems to me to be more of a program used for stuff like lettering, and not quite the usage that I intend to do.
I'm more interested in things like layers, brushes, and the ability to adjust colours.

InTheSand · 26 April 2009, 00:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.Tramiel

OCP Art Studio on teh Speccy is where it's at...

Bah... OCP Art Studio? WAAAY too modern! What you really want is Melbourne Draw!

Can't believe I used to use this (only for messing around with) - a one-pixel wide cursor, no brushes, keyboard up/down/left/right controls only, and having to live with the Speccy's good old colour clash (1 foreground/background combination per 8x8 pixel block). Ah, the good old days!

- Ali

khph_re · 29 April 2009, 15:39

Just to add my two pence

I still use Dpaint and PPaint under emulation in a profesional games studio,
mainly Wii and DS games. Their good for direct pixel pushing, and PPaint has great colour reduction tools. But for true colour try another package. (Pro motion is the PC equivelant of these tools on windows, we use that as well).
They are also good for palette control and colour cycling, which is still used on the DS today. Oh, and shaped fills are nice too.

Brilliance is good as well, I think it had a true colour version as well?

For true colour (retro fun) I still like photogenics. It was a sweet program, Image effects too.

For publishing, and bringing it all together I still really like Pagestream.
Anyway, I really respect Predabots ambition, good luck!

P.S. Does anyone remember the vector animation program fantavision?
that was cool back in the day.

Anyway, I've tried to upload a pic form our latest game, you might recognise the hardware in it!

[IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/MBEYNO%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.jpg[/IMG]

Predabot · 29 April 2009, 23:12

Khph_RE: VERY interesting!

So in a sense, there are still Amigas used for game-production, to this very day!

Thanks for the tips and low-downs man.

And I'm going to assume the comp on that desk is an A2000, right? The first towerized Amiga, if I recall correctly? ^^

Amiga1992 · 29 April 2009, 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by khph_re

Anyway, I've tried to upload a pic form our latest game, you might recognise the hardware in it!

Is there a purpose for the isometric perspective to be crooked on the verticals???

Predabot: A200? what the fuck are you babbling on about?

Predabot · 30 April 2009, 01:48

I forgot a 0, it would appear...And apparently A2000 was not the first towerized Amiga, but the A3000T was. Bummer. :\

Also: What the fuck is up with the cursing?

Amiga1992 · 30 April 2009, 06:14

Cursing spices life the fuck up, as you have noticed!
There were no A2000 towers and the on e in the pic is a 4000T probably

khph_re · 30 April 2009, 10:17

Akira: Yeah, it's an A4000T

And as for the isometrics, it's a 'User View' grab from 3D studio max, the object is 3D.

It's only the texture work that came out of Amiga packages.

And we were not given much texture ram to work with per object...still at least you guessed which Amiga it was!

We used to use lightwave, that old Amiga stalwart, but now we use max (which came off the Atari ST, damn it!)

EDIT: Here are some great pixel links, a lot of these guys either did, or still do, use amiga's for fun:

http://www.pixeljoint.com/ (also good resource for low colour WB backdrops)
http://www.henknieborg.nl/

I used to work with this guy, he's very talented:

http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/13995.htm

DH · 10 June 2009, 23:59

I've got to jump in here and listen to some cursing

Today I installed ....... wait for it............DPaintV *ducks quicky*

Maybe you are wondering why would a Photoshop CS2/3/4 user want to use a program like this, I here you lot asking yourselves. Well the nostalgia for one, as this proggy was my favourite paint package (I used to have Photon Paint too, anyone remember that one), the second, I'm trying to manipulate stuff from an .adf and the easiest way was to use WinUAE and Dpaint.

Other than that there is absolutely no reason for me to use it. I now think I'll move the stuff off the .adf and edit it in Photoshop, re-save it as an .Iff, load it into Dpaint and re-save it out as a Brush, as this is the format I have to use, which can't be done with Photoshop.

I havent got the fogiest idea how to use DPaint anymore and I ain't going to even contemplate trying to learn it again. Photoshop ftw! I say

Of course, I still may need to ask the odd question here and there regarding DPaint, it just depends on what I need to do.

Echo · 11 June 2009, 04:44

Ok beat this!

I'm a bit picky with films like, and one had a compression glitch through ~100 frames in the credits. Having no alternate copy, I screendumped before and after the glitch, pasted em in Dpaint 4 and used move to recreate the scrolling.

The result after batch image export/conversion and remuxing through Virtualdub was seamless.

Go Dpaint

vodley · 11 June 2009, 09:25

Bravo, Echo!

Doc Mindie · 16 June 2009, 08:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Echo

Ok beat this!

I'm a bit picky with films like, and one had a compression glitch through ~100 frames in the credits. Having no alternate copy, I screendumped before and after the glitch, pasted em in Dpaint 4 and used move to recreate the scrolling.

The result after batch image export/conversion and remuxing through Virtualdub was seamless.

Go Dpaint

*beats the quoted text with a stick*

*whistles innocently*

16 July 2009, 23:59

I have ComicSetter I agree, it definitely would not help with what you want to do. It's really made for creating comics with pre-existing comics clip art backgrounds, figures and sound effects. It does have some paint tools in it so you can paint your own costumes on the clip art figures, but I'm not sure you could open your own graphics and color them. You can set word balloons, but the default font seems to be like Courier and you can't select another font, so I would say it really wouldn't be best for lettering, either.
What you're doing sounds very interesting. I'd love to see the finished product!

25 April 2009, 10:15	#47
eskildsen Posts: n/a	A few other infos ;-) Hello Ill just list a few of the Paint programs / etc, that i used over the course of time, when i had an amiga, which was from 1987 - stopped using around 1999 but still have my old trusty A4000T with CSPPC and Vlab Motion ;-) (just now installed in a new Lian Li V1110B case ;-) Paint / Animation programs: Deluxe Paint 1-5 first paint program Photon Paint 1-2 first paint program to support HAM Digi Paint 1-3 also supporting HAM Brilliance 1-2 - similar to Deluxe paint, but more focus on painting than the animation of Deluxe paint Personal Paint Disney Animation Studio - catoonish animation focus with cells With Specific hardware: DCTV Paint paint program to support 262144 colors via a hardware addon TV Paint - paint program used in conjunction with Video Toaster hardware, afaik. Image manipulation programs (professional suites) The Art Department 1-2 - Morph Plus - morphing software to be used with TAD - better than most other morph software released Image FX 1-4 and then there were Scala (presentations) art expression and many others ... Also, i took a look at google and viola http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_p...ivity_software if you read through that one, there are a lot of things i have forgotten to write, or simply didnt know existed here is one particular quote from that text : "Comics and Cartoons Comic Setter was an interesting tools to create printed comics by arranging brushes representing comic characters, joining it with background images and superimposing it the right frames and "ballons" with their own text speech and captions. It could then print in color the comics that were created. Disney Animation Studio was one of the most powerful 2D programs for realizing cartoons. Born on Amiga, this program, equipped also with a complete cell-frame preview feature was used by many cartoon studios worldwide at its age, and it is still used by some several studios in Europe[1] as an useful preview tool." So, for your case, Comic Setter would probably be a good idea! I knew about Disneys animation studio, and have used it to a smaller degree. I previously used Deluxe Paint a lot, and also Image FX, Art Department, and Movie Shop. All the Best ;-) /eskildsen

29 April 2009, 15:39	#50
khph_re Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Northampton/UK Posts: 526	Just to add my two pence I still use Dpaint and PPaint under emulation in a profesional games studio, mainly Wii and DS games. Their good for direct pixel pushing, and PPaint has great colour reduction tools. But for true colour try another package. (Pro motion is the PC equivelant of these tools on windows, we use that as well). They are also good for palette control and colour cycling, which is still used on the DS today. Oh, and shaped fills are nice too. Brilliance is good as well, I think it had a true colour version as well? For true colour (retro fun) I still like photogenics. It was a sweet program, Image effects too. For publishing, and bringing it all together I still really like Pagestream. Anyway, I really respect Predabots ambition, good luck! P.S. Does anyone remember the vector animation program fantavision? that was cool back in the day. Anyway, I've tried to upload a pic form our latest game, you might recognise the hardware in it! [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/MBEYNO%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.jpg[/IMG] Attached Thumbnails

29 April 2009, 23:12	#51
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 397	Khph_RE: VERY interesting! So in a sense, there are still Amigas used for game-production, to this very day! Thanks for the tips and low-downs man. And I'm going to assume the comp on that desk is an A2000, right? The first towerized Amiga, if I recall correctly? ^^ Last edited by Predabot; 30 April 2009 at 01:48.

30 April 2009, 10:17	#55
khph_re Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Northampton/UK Posts: 526	Akira: Yeah, it's an A4000T And as for the isometrics, it's a 'User View' grab from 3D studio max, the object is 3D. It's only the texture work that came out of Amiga packages. And we were not given much texture ram to work with per object...still at least you guessed which Amiga it was! We used to use lightwave, that old Amiga stalwart, but now we use max (which came off the Atari ST, damn it!) EDIT: Here are some great pixel links, a lot of these guys either did, or still do, use amiga's for fun: http://www.pixeljoint.com/ (also good resource for low colour WB backdrops) http://www.henknieborg.nl/ I used to work with this guy, he's very talented: http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/13995.htm Last edited by khph_re; 30 April 2009 at 10:23.

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05 April 2009, 17:50	#41
Doc Mindie In deep Trouble Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manchester, Made in Norway Age: 51 Posts: 841	First thing that comes to _my_ mind.... why use DPaint and not Personal Paint from Cloanto? PPaint has quite a few things DPaint doesn't... like the filter thingies, multiple undo, and so on... and was likely why DPaint was dumped in PPaints favour the last year or so Amiga's was produced.

05 April 2009, 19:33	#42
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 397	Personal Paint vs ImageFX huh? Hmm, personal Paint or ImageFx... Has anyone used both programs, and know how they work?

06 April 2009, 00:17	#43
Leffmann Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,269	As for Personal Paint I would say it's equal to Deluxe Paint in the sense that they're both geared for pixelling more than image editing and manipulation. Personal Paint does have some simple programmable image filters (convolution filters and that sort) but it's nothing spectacular. They each have features that the other one lacks, and though I prefer Deluxe Paint I wouldn't say that one of them is superior to the other.

06 April 2009, 08:10	#44
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,210	You should use more than only one software.. Try them all and use whats good in them.

06 April 2009, 18:21	#46
J.Tramiel Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Millom, Cumbria Posts: 63	Forget all them Amiga and PC graphics bollocks - OCP Art Studio on teh Speccy is where it's at... Just check out them features - it's even Kempston Joystick compatible! BOOYAKASHA!

25 April 2009, 18:05	#48
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 397	Thanks for the info Eskildsen. Comic Setter seems to me to be more of a program used for stuff like lettering, and not quite the usage that I intend to do. I'm more interested in things like layers, brushes, and the ability to adjust colours.

30 April 2009, 01:48	#53
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 397	I forgot a 0, it would appear...And apparently A2000 was not the first towerized Amiga, but the A3000T was. Bummer. :\ Also: What the fuck is up with the cursing?

30 April 2009, 06:14	#54
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	Cursing spices life the fuck up, as you have noticed! There were no A2000 towers and the on e in the pic is a 4000T probably

10 June 2009, 23:59	#56
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 57 Posts: 4,110	I've got to jump in here and listen to some cursing Today I installed ....... wait for it............DPaintV ducks quicky Maybe you are wondering why would a Photoshop CS2/3/4 user want to use a program like this, I here you lot asking yourselves. Well the nostalgia for one, as this proggy was my favourite paint package (I used to have Photon Paint too, anyone remember that one), the second, I'm trying to manipulate stuff from an .adf and the easiest way was to use WinUAE and Dpaint. Other than that there is absolutely no reason for me to use it. I now think I'll move the stuff off the .adf and edit it in Photoshop, re-save it as an .Iff, load it into Dpaint and re-save it out as a Brush, as this is the format I have to use, which can't be done with Photoshop. I havent got the fogiest idea how to use DPaint anymore and I ain't going to even contemplate trying to learn it again. Photoshop ftw! I say Of course, I still may need to ask the odd question here and there regarding DPaint, it just depends on what I need to do.

11 June 2009, 04:44	#57
Echo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South-West Wales Posts: 382	Ok beat this! I'm a bit picky with films like, and one had a compression glitch through ~100 frames in the credits. Having no alternate copy, I screendumped before and after the glitch, pasted em in Dpaint 4 and used move to recreate the scrolling. The result after batch image export/conversion and remuxing through Virtualdub was seamless. Go Dpaint

11 June 2009, 09:25	#58
vodley Zone Friend Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: homer AK usa Age: 59 Posts: 82	Bravo, Echo!

16 July 2009, 23:59	#60
JrasicMark Posts: n/a	I have ComicSetter I agree, it definitely would not help with what you want to do. It's really made for creating comics with pre-existing comics clip art backgrounds, figures and sound effects. It does have some paint tools in it so you can paint your own costumes on the clip art figures, but I'm not sure you could open your own graphics and color them. You can set word balloons, but the default font seems to be like Courier and you can't select another font, so I would say it really wouldn't be best for lettering, either. What you're doing sounds very interesting. I'd love to see the finished product!

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