OS 3.9 Ram-Disk Icon gone/changed

elowan · 05 August 2016, 08:38

hi there,

when trying to install "TVPaint" to my Win-UAE installation of OS 3.9, I have overwritten the "disk.info" icon of my ram-disk by accident

(by extracting the .lha to it)

Now my ram-disk is represented by a "TVPAint" logo ...

Is there a way, to get the original 3.9 icon back (maybe from the 3.9 CD-rom)?

I tried to replace the tvpaint icon by some other icon, but it does not work...
Seems, I can not just move some "disk.info" named Icon into ram-disk anymore

Please, somebody help!

Cheers

thomas · 05 August 2016, 09:41

Copy the original def_ram.info from the OS 3.9 CD to envarc:sys and reboot.

elowan · 05 August 2016, 09:45

hello Thomas,

ok - but I can not find "envarc:" drawer... Can you tell, where it should be, please?

thanks!

Daedalus · 05 August 2016, 09:54

ENVARC: a standard assign on all Workbench setups so you can copy to there using the shell. It points to SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/ if you want to get to it there either.

elowan · 05 August 2016, 10:03

great, thanks a lot - will try !

elowan · 09 August 2016, 09:17

Ok, got my icon back now - I used drag´n´drop (Pictogram->Information) and boom :=)

elowan · 09 August 2016, 11:14

WTF?? I can not believe this... after looking into some Prefs and moving the bench-trash out of the WbStratup folder, the ram disk icon has gone completly (!)

In file dialog, the "drive" itself is still there

...

Man, I think this emulated WB´s are just very fragile...

elowan · 09 August 2016, 15:02

Hmmm, I checked SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/, there is a def_ram.info file.
I´ve also put "makelink ram:disk.info envarc:sys/def_ram.info soft" into startup-sequence (and tried also in user-startup) at the end of these scripts, reboot - but still no ram-disk shows up on the workbench, just the harddisks are showing...

edit: in my Startup-sequence file, there was already a line, regarding the icon: "SYS:C/MakeLink RAM:disk.info ENVARC:SYS/def_RAM.info SOFT"

Got no Idea, why there is still no icon on the WB...

elowan · 09 August 2016, 15:19

when I try to clean the ram disk, it says: "Coudn´t open vdisk.device : Error -1"

Daedalus · 09 August 2016, 16:48

vdisk.device is a different thing to the RAM disk. It's more like the RAD: disk, and isn't part of Workbench as standard. It sounds like things didn't copy over 100%, or some filenames or permissions got corrupted during the transfer or something. This can happen when you use Windows to copy files. The standard RAM disk should have an icon given the line you have in your startup-sequence. If it doesn't, check your Workbench preferences to see if it's hidden, then check the ENVARC:sys/def_ram.info icon to make sure it's a disk type and not a drawer or something else. Dragging and dropping the icon imagery instead of replacing the whole icon won't fix issues such as the incorrect type being set.

thomas · 09 August 2016, 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by elowan

Hmmm, I checked SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/, there is a def_ram.info file.

Load it into IconEdit and check that its type is "Disk".

PeterK · 09 August 2016, 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by elowan

when I try to clean the ram disk, it says: "Coudn´t open vdisk.device : Error -1"

That should mean that your Ram Disk "RAM:" was replaced by VDisk "VD0:" before and somehow you managed to destroy the installation of VDisk. http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/vdisk38

Read the VDisk.guide carefully. Check for Devs:vdisk.device !!

Reinstall VDisk again or if you don't want to use it anymore remove VD0: from Devs:DosDrivers.

In case that you use VD0: then you may also need a different softlink:
"SYS:C/MakeLink VD0:disk.info ENVARC:SYS/def_RAM.info SOFT", but I'm not sure about that.

BTW, the SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/def_ram.info file does not need to be of the type "DISK" if you use the Workbench. Only DOpus 5 can't handle other icon types in case my icon.library 46.4 isn't installed yet to fix this issue.

thomas · 10 August 2016, 07:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterK

BTW, the SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/def_ram.info file does not need to be of the type "DISK" if you use the Workbench.

This is not true. Workbench requires disk icons to be of type disk, otherwise the drive will be invisible.

elowan · 10 August 2016, 09:11

hey, thanks for replys !

ok, i checked the icon in icon edit, it is the "chip" and is set to disk.

I also was looking for "vdisk.device" in "DEVS" but it was not there. Only clipboar.device, AHI.device among others are there.

In Devs/DOS-Drives, there was no VD0:

If I look at the file-dialog, when open "Multi-View" and select "Devices", I get my harddisks and RAM: is showing up

elowan · 10 August 2016, 10:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daedalus

If it doesn't, check your Workbench preferences to see if it's hidden, ...

Can you explain, how to do this, please?

elowan · 10 August 2016, 10:43

Got it:

under "Workbench?" I just set icon borders from "none" to "large" and boom - got RAM icon back (!) then I changed back to "none", saved and rebooted.

now, the icon is still there

/solved

Daedalus · 10 August 2016, 12:41

Hmmm, that seems strange, but perhaps the preferences were corrupted and resetting them fix it. Good stuff!

05 August 2016, 08:38	#1
elowan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: germany Age: 49 Posts: 374	OS 3.9 Ram-Disk Icon gone/changed hi there, when trying to install "TVPaint" to my Win-UAE installation of OS 3.9, I have overwritten the "disk.info" icon of my ram-disk by accident (by extracting the .lha to it) Now my ram-disk is represented by a "TVPAint" logo ... Is there a way, to get the original 3.9 icon back (maybe from the 3.9 CD-rom)? I tried to replace the tvpaint icon by some other icon, but it does not work... Seems, I can not just move some "disk.info" named Icon into ram-disk anymore Please, somebody help! Cheers

09 August 2016, 15:02	#8
elowan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: germany Age: 49 Posts: 374	Hmmm, I checked SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/, there is a def_ram.info file. I´ve also put "makelink ram:disk.info envarc:sys/def_ram.info soft" into startup-sequence (and tried also in user-startup) at the end of these scripts, reboot - but still no ram-disk shows up on the workbench, just the harddisks are showing... edit: in my Startup-sequence file, there was already a line, regarding the icon: "SYS:C/MakeLink RAM:disk.info ENVARC:SYS/def_RAM.info SOFT" Got no Idea, why there is still no icon on the WB... Last edited by elowan; 09 August 2016 at 15:16.

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05 August 2016, 09:41	#2
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 6,985	Copy the original def_ram.info from the OS 3.9 CD to envarc:sys and reboot.

05 August 2016, 09:45	#3
elowan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: germany Age: 49 Posts: 374	hello Thomas, ok - but I can not find "envarc:" drawer... Can you tell, where it should be, please? thanks!

05 August 2016, 09:54	#4
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	ENVARC: a standard assign on all Workbench setups so you can copy to there using the shell. It points to SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/ if you want to get to it there either.

05 August 2016, 10:03	#5
elowan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: germany Age: 49 Posts: 374	great, thanks a lot - will try !

09 August 2016, 09:17	#6
elowan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: germany Age: 49 Posts: 374	Ok, got my icon back now - I used drag´n´drop (Pictogram->Information) and boom :=)

09 August 2016, 11:14	#7
elowan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: germany Age: 49 Posts: 374	WTF?? I can not believe this... after looking into some Prefs and moving the bench-trash out of the WbStratup folder, the ram disk icon has gone completly (!) In file dialog, the "drive" itself is still there ... Man, I think this emulated WB´s are just very fragile...

09 August 2016, 15:19	#9
elowan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: germany Age: 49 Posts: 374	when I try to clean the ram disk, it says: "Coudn´t open vdisk.device : Error -1"

09 August 2016, 16:48	#10
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	vdisk.device is a different thing to the RAM disk. It's more like the RAD: disk, and isn't part of Workbench as standard. It sounds like things didn't copy over 100%, or some filenames or permissions got corrupted during the transfer or something. This can happen when you use Windows to copy files. The standard RAM disk should have an icon given the line you have in your startup-sequence. If it doesn't, check your Workbench preferences to see if it's hidden, then check the ENVARC:sys/def_ram.info icon to make sure it's a disk type and not a drawer or something else. Dragging and dropping the icon imagery instead of replacing the whole icon won't fix issues such as the incorrect type being set.

10 August 2016, 09:11	#14
elowan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: germany Age: 49 Posts: 374	hey, thanks for replys ! ok, i checked the icon in icon edit, it is the "chip" and is set to disk. I also was looking for "vdisk.device" in "DEVS" but it was not there. Only clipboar.device, AHI.device among others are there. In Devs/DOS-Drives, there was no VD0: If I look at the file-dialog, when open "Multi-View" and select "Devices", I get my harddisks and RAM: is showing up

10 August 2016, 10:43	#16
elowan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: germany Age: 49 Posts: 374	Got it: under "Workbench?" I just set icon borders from "none" to "large" and boom - got RAM icon back (!) then I changed back to "none", saved and rebooted. now, the icon is still there /solved

10 August 2016, 12:41	#17
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	Hmmm, that seems strange, but perhaps the preferences were corrupted and resetting them fix it. Good stuff!

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