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Old 17 August 2019, 12:56   #21
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Load of garbage. Xcode already includes emulators for iOS devices, and has done for years. Apple are simply trying to prevent third party emulation, for hardware which is still sold. A completely understandable move.
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Old 17 August 2019, 13:16   #22
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There is nothing wrong with third party emulation for hardware which is still sold, it's already settled case law.

Machines for running OS4 are still sold; that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with UAE emulating it.

It's understandable that they only care about maximizing their own profit to the detriments of the rights of emulator users and developers. They have been anti-emulation since at least the A-Max days, except when it suits them.
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There is nothing wrong with third party emulation for hardware which is still sold, it's already settled case law.
Well there is, because emulation of the hardware could lead to clone iPhone's being manufactured by other companies.


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Machines for running OS4 are still sold; that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with UAE emulating it.
Are you really comparing AmigaOS4 to iOS?

One is used by half the world. One is almost unknown.
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Old 30 August 2019, 06:19   #24
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Well there is, because emulation of the hardware could lead to clone iPhone's being manufactured by other companies.
Well, clone IBM PCs, for example, were manufactured by Commodore and continue to be manufactured by other companies, nothing illegal about that.

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One is used by half the world. One is almost unknown.
Bleem was legally emulating the PS1 which was the most popular console at the time, so I don't see the relevance of whether a platform is unknown or not.
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Well, clone IBM PCs, for example, were manufactured by Commodore and continue to be manufactured by other companies, nothing illegal about that.
I'm sure Apple's many patents would make it highly illegal.

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Bleem was legally emulating the PS1 which was the most popular console at the time, so I don't see the relevance of whether a platform is unknown or not.
Bleem used a reverse-engineered and not 100% compatible PSX BIOS.

That's very different to having an official version of iOS running on non-Apple hardware.
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https://mashable.com/video/apple-cor...ement-lawsuit/

It's either about the security of iOS or licence of the ROM they use being used not in a single instance but many at once

https://techcrunch.com/2019/08/15/ap...ing-corellium/

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