Downfall - diary of a game... - Page 3

voyager · 06 February 2012, 12:46

Is that the Doctor Snuggles theme song in the youtube clip?

Graham Humphrey · 06 February 2012, 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predseda

Graham, I have read carefully your ASC file, it is very well commented and I can now imagine how the whole game works. It would be great if you would always summarise all the changes since previous version at the beginning of the new file.

Thanks, that's good to know! Good idea about summarising changes, consider it done from the next update.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishyfish

Cool. It was mostly just because the graphics in your game are 16 pixels wide that made me think of it. Personally Im always trying to squeeze hardware sprites in wherever I can, so it was probably a bit of a reflex action in mentioning it

To be honest, it would have made sense to go down that road... it just never occured to me so it's a good suggestion

But we're only going to have two moving objects on screen maximum so I think I'll just carry on as is.

pubzombie · 06 February 2012, 22:07

Hi GH,
Only 2 objects ain't a negative constraint its a positive. I bumped into Ed Fries at an expo late 2010 an he was waxing lyrical about his Halo 2600 cart.
He gave a great talk about how artists have improved themselves and the art scene by self imposing constraints on themselves - Picaso etc yadda yadda yadda. He then went on to make a damn good case for the indie scene and homebrew scene for having some of the most talented and original minds in the games biz. Retro made people innovate was I think what he meant. Even mega popular stuff like minecraft could not have existed without the self imposed constraint of blockyness :-D and that turned out to be the game that Lego should have paid for. My point is, I guess, these 2 moving objects are yours to do with what ever the frag U want.

Graham Humphrey · 06 February 2012, 23:37

Well that's part of the reason I decided to do the game in the first place - the lack of moving objects mean it should be easier to program and makes it a simpler more manageable project. It's not inherently a bad thing by any means. It does mean I have more time to focus on making the actual gameplay as good as it can be.

Predseda · 06 February 2012, 23:57

Yes. Next project will be something like SoTB.

s2325 · 07 February 2012, 22:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by voyager

Is that the Doctor Snuggles theme song in the youtube clip?

Yes, played by tiny external player.

Graham Humphrey · 08 February 2012, 23:27

A bit of work done this evening. Predseda drew me a new animation frame for when the player's character lands after falling so that's now been implemented. And more importantly, the problems I was having with the new movement system have been fixed so the character won't fly off the screen anymore. Slowly but surely problems are being overcome...

mihcael · 09 February 2012, 03:17

Just tried the wip3, very neat! Love the character, very well drawn.

Looks like it might be an intersting game when finished.

Predseda · 09 February 2012, 08:54

I am thinking about special bonuses - speed-up or slow-down, score-booster etc. What do you think, Graham?

frikilokooo · 09 February 2012, 11:52

God job!

Btw the game features enemies or obstacles?

Predseda · 09 February 2012, 14:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by frikilokooo

God job!

Btw the game features enemies or obstacles?

Look at original "Man goes down" and "Downfall" from Graham's first post. It is a clone, so the gameplay should be similar.

Graham Humphrey · 09 February 2012, 21:01

Cheers Mike!

Friki - as Predseda says, it is a clone of an existing Atari homebrew game, so there'll be no enemies or anything. There will be bonus pickups though (for points - not sure whether I'll implement bonuses like Pred suggests but a speed up/down pickup might well be easy to do).

cosmicfrog · 12 February 2012, 12:17

Finally caught up with this thread

well done Graham & Predseda

personally would like a utube vid of the updates so I can see how its progressing s232 where are you ??

Game play, game play and game play, can be the simplest thing in the world but as long as its fun to play I don`t care to much what it looks like, thats not to say by adding a few simple things you can make things look a whole lot better which is great

s2325 · 12 February 2012, 14:58

[ Show youtube player ]

lifeschool · 12 February 2012, 15:03

^ lol. The music is very cutsy.

frikilokooo · 12 February 2012, 16:12

Nice music.I think that the game would improve with inertia

Graham Humphrey · 12 February 2012, 16:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2325

[ Show youtube player ]

Thanks for that... gotta love the music

I still find it a bit surreal that somebody would make a video of a game I made!

Quote:

Originally Posted by frikilokooo

Nice music.I think that the game would improve with inertia

I agree and hopefully I will be uploading a new version soon with the inertia in place... it might not be today because I've been really busy in the last few days and have had little time to work on the game, but if I don't I'll try and do it by the end of this week.

Predseda · 12 February 2012, 17:11

Oh no, no updates today?

Graham Humphrey · 12 February 2012, 19:43

Well, maybe later. I haven't done much this week but you might like a look at the inertia movement. Oh and I started work on the score system too.

Predseda · 12 February 2012, 19:59

I hope inertia will be more and more cruel in later levels

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06 February 2012, 12:46	#41
voyager The show must go on. Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Alkmaar Nederland Posts: 269	Is that the Doctor Snuggles theme song in the youtube clip?

06 February 2012, 22:07	#43
pubzombie Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: westmids Posts: 900	Hi GH, Only 2 objects ain't a negative constraint its a positive. I bumped into Ed Fries at an expo late 2010 an he was waxing lyrical about his Halo 2600 cart. He gave a great talk about how artists have improved themselves and the art scene by self imposing constraints on themselves - Picaso etc yadda yadda yadda. He then went on to make a damn good case for the indie scene and homebrew scene for having some of the most talented and original minds in the games biz. Retro made people innovate was I think what he meant. Even mega popular stuff like minecraft could not have existed without the self imposed constraint of blockyness :-D and that turned out to be the game that Lego should have paid for. My point is, I guess, these 2 moving objects are yours to do with what ever the frag U want.

06 February 2012, 23:37	#44
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Well that's part of the reason I decided to do the game in the first place - the lack of moving objects mean it should be easier to program and makes it a simpler more manageable project. It's not inherently a bad thing by any means. It does mean I have more time to focus on making the actual gameplay as good as it can be.

06 February 2012, 23:57	#45
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,540	Yes. Next project will be something like SoTB.

08 February 2012, 23:27	#47
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	A bit of work done this evening. Predseda drew me a new animation frame for when the player's character lands after falling so that's now been implemented. And more importantly, the problems I was having with the new movement system have been fixed so the character won't fly off the screen anymore. Slowly but surely problems are being overcome...

09 February 2012, 03:17	#48
mihcael Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Aussie Posts: 1,144	Just tried the wip3, very neat! Love the character, very well drawn. Looks like it might be an intersting game when finished.

09 February 2012, 08:54	#49
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,540	I am thinking about special bonuses - speed-up or slow-down, score-booster etc. What do you think, Graham?

09 February 2012, 11:52	#50
frikilokooo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mallorca,Spain. Age: 44 Posts: 1,154	God job! Btw the game features enemies or obstacles?

09 February 2012, 21:01	#52
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Cheers Mike! Friki - as Predseda says, it is a clone of an existing Atari homebrew game, so there'll be no enemies or anything. There will be bonus pickups though (for points - not sure whether I'll implement bonuses like Pred suggests but a speed up/down pickup might well be easy to do).

12 February 2012, 12:17	#53
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	Finally caught up with this thread well done Graham & Predseda personally would like a utube vid of the updates so I can see how its progressing s232 where are you ?? Game play, game play and game play, can be the simplest thing in the world but as long as its fun to play I don`t care to much what it looks like, thats not to say by adding a few simple things you can make things look a whole lot better which is great

12 February 2012, 14:58	#54
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	[ Show youtube player ]

12 February 2012, 15:03	#55
lifeschool Local Moderator Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lancashire, UK Age: 48 Posts: 1,591	^ lol. The music is very cutsy.

12 February 2012, 16:12	#56
frikilokooo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mallorca,Spain. Age: 44 Posts: 1,154	Nice music.I think that the game would improve with inertia

12 February 2012, 17:11	#58
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,540	Oh no, no updates today?

12 February 2012, 19:43	#59
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Well, maybe later. I haven't done much this week but you might like a look at the inertia movement. Oh and I started work on the score system too.

12 February 2012, 19:59	#60
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,540	I hope inertia will be more and more cruel in later levels

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