AnotherWorld, HighSeasTrader originals have gfx bugs!

hexaae · 13 August 2006, 11:19

Hello,
I've seen original games AnotherWorld and HighSeasTraderAGA
have gfx bugs, just like IK+.

AnotherWorld: level code HICI the guard's head in the foreground when you start running right is corrupt!

HighSeasTraderAGA: in open sea in the upper-right there's a wave gfx block fixed, should be animated as the rest of the sea...

IK+: in the bonus stage with the shield completely visible (center) if you press 'B' will change its gfx with a corrupt sprite with the writing "IK+"

The problem is that these gfx corruption bugs are also in the original disks/cd. Can confirm?

Ciao!

dlfrsilver · 13 August 2006, 12:16

Original ? what do you mean by original ? an original is an IPF file on winuae
or an ADF copy of an original protection untouched.

the problems you're relating come from corrupted disk ADFs, no more no less.

right ?

hexaae · 13 August 2006, 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Original ? what do you mean by original ? an original is an IPF file on winuae
or an ADF copy of an original protection untouched.

the problems you're relating come from corrupted disk ADFs, no more no less.

right ?

So you don't belive me and actually think I have those
crappy badly pirated with XCopy cracks? Not at all!

Run those games from orginal supports or IPF (I used
them, supposed to be 100% original) and please, tell
me if you can see those gfx bugs as I described...

DamienD · 13 August 2006, 17:08

For Another World just use this Flashtro 100% cracked / tested version... See http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=250167&postcount=54

I've re-uploaded to The Zone!

hexaae · 13 August 2006, 17:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

For Another World just use this Flashtro 100% cracked / tested version... See http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=250167&postcount=54

I've re-uploaded to The Zone!

Well... maybe I was not clear enough because I see my
thread has been completely misunderstood here.

I'm NOT saying "please help me because my version of
these games are corrupt!", I'm saying ALL versions
commercially available (and thus obviously cracks)
are corrupt! It's a bug in the original reselled
versions... please TEST those games as I've said
and you'll see those gfx bugs.
I'm quite sure about it, but please I need confirmation
by other users who have these games...

Ciao!

PS
Thank you DamineD I have those games, and I don't need cracked ADF... at least WHD versions or IPFs as I have
a real Amiga 1200 + Blizzard1260 at 66MHz!

BippyM · 13 August 2006, 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by hexaae

Thank you DamineD I have those games, and I don't need cracked ADF... at least WHD versions or IPFs as I have
a real Amiga 1200 + Blizzard1260 at 66MHz!

Good for you!

I hate the I've got this and that type of post!

I HAD a BPPC603e+scsi+040/25+64mb ram and I sold it a purchased a Blizzard 68030mkIV which imo is better for WHDLoad games

The 060 could be the problem you know, disconnect it and try again!!

dlfrsilver · 13 August 2006, 18:24

ahhhh ok man, i understand better now, you're using a 060 !

if the games you're talking about have their self modifying code patched, then
yes, you have BIG chances to have these kind of bugs if not worse....

i have a 1230/50 mhz /32mb FAST, and i have no pb whatsoever....

give first your configuration, it will be then easier to answer you correctly.

DamienD · 13 August 2006, 18:46

@hexaae: Ah ok, now I understand

hexaae · 13 August 2006, 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by bippym

Good for you!

I hate the I've got this and that type of post!

I HAD a BPPC603e+scsi+040/25+64mb ram and I sold it a purchased a Blizzard 68030mkIV which imo is better for WHDLoad games

The 060 could be the problem you know, disconnect it and try again!!

It's faster if you simply run those games on your Amiga and report (I'm quite sure) if you have the same problems.
Why nobody belives me if I say there are bugs in commercial versions?

Please test yourself. Run AnotherWorld, level code (CTRL+c) HICI. Exit the cage, take the pistol, run to the right: you'll se a guard's head corrupt sprite in foreground running from left to right... it's not a CPU or HW problem IMO.

Or run IK+, enter bouncoing ball bonus, center your shield and press 'b', the new shield sprite is corrupt.

With HighSeasTraderAGA there's a gfx block of waves at the extreme right that looks "locked". It should be animated as the rest of the waves...

Please test instead of trying to help me with suppositions on my hw/sw problems

Please... let me know, thank you!

PS
I've already tried to disable B1260 (keeping 2 pressed on reboot, but this way I can't use fastmem mounted on board) and the whole B1260 but these are not data-corruption errors caused by CPU, I'm almost sure but need your final confirmation! Please help me this way!

BippyM · 13 August 2006, 19:01

Tried IK+ and there is NO GFX corruption!

it IS your 060 trust me!

hexaae · 13 August 2006, 19:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by bippym

Tried IK+ and there is NO GFX corruption!

it IS your 060 trust me!

Thank you, you just CONFIRMED the bug in IK+. Look under the shield, that rainbow line (1 pixel heigth) is a gfx corruption in the original game (at least I think you run the original).
Similar gfx bugs present in the other games I mentioned, please test!

hexaae · 13 August 2006, 19:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

ahhhh ok man, i understand better now, you're using a 060 !

if the games you're talking about have their self modifying code patched, then
yes, you have BIG chances to have these kind of bugs if not worse....

i have a 1230/50 mhz /32mb FAST, and i have no pb whatsoever....

give first your configuration, it will be then easier to answer you correctly.

I have no probs. I'm just saying that there are gfx corruption bugs in original games, even if they run fine!
Yes I have 060, but I'm a VERY experienced Amiga user and I know all 060 problems (some crunchers, self modifying code, larger cache probs...). These are real bugs never fixed in the reselled version of these games. I suppose the data got corrupt on the master copy just before starting massive mastering of the game disks to be boxed, or who knows the story behind every game dev

I just wonder if contacting the authors we could retrieve a fixed version one day, if exists.

Adderly · 13 August 2006, 23:04

hmm, i've played IK+ a lot of times and have never seen that gfx bug but maybe it was there all the time... %)

Retro-Nerd · 13 August 2006, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adderly

hmm, i've played IK+ a lot of times and have never seen that gfx bug but maybe it was there all the time... %)

The same here, i never noticed this little bug. I've asked Bert, maybe he can fix it in his WHDLoad install.

hexaae · 13 August 2006, 23:37

Yes, I know it's strange, and almost none spotted this out, but these 3 games have gfx bugs in the orginal versions... a little shame that there has never been a fix available in all these years!

Please can you confirm also the bugs in HighSeasTraderAGA and AnotherWorld?

PS
Ok, HST is a bit unknown to many players (good game instead), but you didn't notice that gfx bug in AnotherWorld too?

Retro-Nerd · 13 August 2006, 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by hexaae

Yes, I know it's strange, and almost none spotted this out, but these 3 games have gfx bugs in the orginal versions... a little shame that there has never been a fix available in all these years!

Please can you confirm also the bugs in HighSeasTraderAGA and AnotherWorld?

PS
Ok, HST is a bit unknown to many players (good game instead), but you didn't notice that gfx bug in AnotherWorld too?

I will have a look.

Edit: Very strange, i can't remember that back in time on my real amiga.

hexaae · 14 August 2006, 00:17

Yes, this pic in your post is the correct level of AnotherWorld (HICI code).
Now exit the cage, take the pistol and run to the right.
In the next screen you'll see at the bottom of the screen a corrupt sprite (3-4 vertical lines). It should be the head of on guard running from left to right.
Can confirm?

Retro-Nerd · 14 August 2006, 00:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by hexaae

Yes, this pic in your post is the correct level of AnotherWorld (HICI code).
Now exit the cage, take the pistol and run to the right.
In the next screen you'll see at the bottom of the screen a corrupt sprite (3-4 vertical lines). It should be the head of on guard running from left to right.
Can confirm?

Uups, i thought you've meant the colored pixel over the head in my shot? Some more bugs too?

hexaae · 14 August 2006, 00:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Uups, i thought you've meant the colored pixel over the head in my shot? Some more bugs too?

Yes, that's not a bug. It's our hero hair-style color

The other corrupted sprite is MUCH more evident...

Uh, you're right. I didn't notice those spurious pixels, but see the other bigger corruption I mention first...
The same corrupt 'bankxx' file however. Another confirmation that it's a file corruption, in the original game disks! What a shame

The pixels in your shots are the leds of the panel used by the guard. Are ok. See my bug instead...

Retro-Nerd · 14 August 2006, 00:39

Is this really a bug, or is the head supposed to be looking so flat?

13 August 2006, 11:19	#1
hexaae Bug hunter Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 2,161	AnotherWorld, HighSeasTrader originals have gfx bugs! Hello, I've seen original games AnotherWorld and HighSeasTraderAGA have gfx bugs, just like IK+. AnotherWorld: level code HICI the guard's head in the foreground when you start running right is corrupt! HighSeasTraderAGA: in open sea in the upper-right there's a wave gfx block fixed, should be animated as the rest of the sea... IK+: in the bonus stage with the shield completely visible (center) if you press 'B' will change its gfx with a corrupt sprite with the writing "IK+" The problem is that these gfx corruption bugs are also in the original disks/cd. Can confirm? Ciao!

13 August 2006, 19:01	#10
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Tried IK+ and there is NO GFX corruption! it IS your 060 trust me! Last edited by BippyM; 02 November 2008 at 13:21.

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13 August 2006, 12:16	#2
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	Original ? what do you mean by original ? an original is an IPF file on winuae or an ADF copy of an original protection untouched. the problems you're relating come from corrupted disk ADFs, no more no less. right ?

13 August 2006, 17:08	#4
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	For Another World just use this Flashtro 100% cracked / tested version... See http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=250167&postcount=54 I've re-uploaded to The Zone!

13 August 2006, 18:24	#7
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	ahhhh ok man, i understand better now, you're using a 060 ! if the games you're talking about have their self modifying code patched, then yes, you have BIG chances to have these kind of bugs if not worse.... i have a 1230/50 mhz /32mb FAST, and i have no pb whatsoever.... give first your configuration, it will be then easier to answer you correctly.

13 August 2006, 18:46	#8
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	@hexaae: Ah ok, now I understand

13 August 2006, 23:04	#13
Adderly [Satan^God] Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 701	hmm, i've played IK+ a lot of times and have never seen that gfx bug but maybe it was there all the time... %)

13 August 2006, 23:37	#15
hexaae Bug hunter Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 2,161	Yes, I know it's strange, and almost none spotted this out, but these 3 games have gfx bugs in the orginal versions... a little shame that there has never been a fix available in all these years! Please can you confirm also the bugs in HighSeasTraderAGA and AnotherWorld? PS Ok, HST is a bit unknown to many players (good game instead), but you didn't notice that gfx bug in AnotherWorld too?

14 August 2006, 00:17	#17
hexaae Bug hunter Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 2,161	Yes, this pic in your post is the correct level of AnotherWorld (HICI code). Now exit the cage, take the pistol and run to the right. In the next screen you'll see at the bottom of the screen a corrupt sprite (3-4 vertical lines). It should be the head of on guard running from left to right. Can confirm?

14 August 2006, 00:39	#20
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	Is this really a bug, or is the head supposed to be looking so flat?

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