Why don't everybody like the CD32 controller..? - Page 3

nexus · 02 August 2018, 22:05

yeah i hate the d-pad divided up like that

try playing nes contra on a xbox 360 controller lol hitting down you can easily move forward and kill yourself

1 thing i never understood is how people like the nes max controller

had friends growing up that loved that thing

ruinashiro · 03 August 2018, 07:17

Mostly what everyone else said.
Poor quality dpad and buttons, not a great layout. No problem ergonomically, except:
The protrusions on the dpad feel like razor spikes 30 minutes into a game.
And I broke more of them than for any other system.

Leffmann · 03 August 2018, 09:41

The directional pad was a bit bulky, other than that I liked it very much.

Glen M · 03 August 2018, 10:34

I find the pad fairly comfortable to hold. I think its a good size. The 4 face buttons and shoulder buttons are fine the d-pad isn't great and the start button is a spongy mess. My biggest complaint however is the angle of the D-Pad. It sites at a slight angle which for me makes it unnatural to align your thumb to. It can lead to difficulty in my eyes for games that require specific inputs such as beat em ups.

I think to make it better the buttons should of have slightly more travel to give a more response to the user. The D-pad should have been straight and the face of it should have been deeper.

One of my favorite controllers is the original xbox, yes the duke. Its bulky and heavy in the hand making it feel strong and it keeps your hands focused. The dpad is very good and the buttons are all responsive. Can we make an adapter for it?

BSzili · 03 August 2018, 11:12

I can see what they were going for with the angled d-pad, it's about the same as my thumb's angle when I hold the controller, but I'm just too used to straight D-pads from other controllers at this point.
I wish somebody made clones of the Competition Pro / Honeybee controller. I'm just a sucker for the 1st gen Mega Driver gamepad style.

nexus · 03 August 2018, 17:26

that all above about the angle is really due to how big you are and where you like your arms to rest eg:
i love the wiiu gamepad and how wide it is
i can keep my arms straight and wrists with elbows to the sides instead of elbows being more into your chest/stomach

MickGyver · 06 August 2018, 19:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

We need a wireless CD32 pad. Anybody working on a PCB for that? Should fit into a real SNES or Mega Drive 6 button case.

I have been looking into this, I have already made quite solid software for my wired CD32 gamepad that could be used for the receiver circuit. Like @Daedalus said, would be nice to have more time for projects like this.

Retro-Nerd · 06 August 2018, 21:56

Ah, thanks for the info. Looking forward to test something in the (hopefully) near future.

Anachronist · 15 August 2018, 11:53

I wonder if one of the wireless solutions for Sega Genesis/Megadrive controllers would work with the CD32 controller?

Gordon · 15 August 2018, 12:04

I know wireless playstation 2 controllers work when used with the CD32 PSX adapter.

MickGyver · 15 August 2018, 12:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anachronist

I wonder if one of the wireless solutions for Sega Genesis/Megadrive controllers would work with the CD32 controller?

The Megadrive controller is very different to the CD32 controller so I guess not.

On the subject of wireless, yesterday I finished a prototype of a wireless version of my KTRL CD32. I was able to reuse my pcbs with some mods + most of my previous code. Seems to work great with all the features of the wired version (with the bonus of the entire dpad being remappable). Reliable range seems to be at least 6 meters and the added input lag is about 600µs (not much).

It would take some time to get proper pcbs etc. made for this version. I'm going to start a new thread and look for help, since I would not have time to assemble any of these myself, would need to find a better method of production to make this a viable project.

Retro-Nerd · 15 August 2018, 17:28

Great news. Can't wait to test one of your wireless pads. Hopefully somebody can help you with the production/assembling process.

DanyPPC · 15 August 2018, 22:42

Wireless pad for Amiga ? WoW

ReadOnlyCat · 12 October 2018, 05:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickGyver

The Megadrive controller is very different to the CD32 controller so I guess not.

The protocol used is different but any micro controller could easily support both or convert from one to the other (and vice versa). It should be fairly easy to build a MegaDrive/Genesis-to-Amiga adapter which translates the protocol to CD32 and vice versa, thus allowing all MD/Genesis controllers to be transparently usable on games which support the CD32 protocol.

MickGyver · 12 October 2018, 07:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReadOnlyCat

The protocol used is different but any micro controller could easily support both or convert from one to the other (and vice versa). It should be fairly easy to build a MegaDrive/Genesis-to-Amiga adapter which translates the protocol to CD32 and vice versa, thus allowing all MD/Genesis controllers to be transparently usable on games which support the CD32 protocol.

Sure, but this adapter would need to be designed, programmed and built by someone. But then, only six button Mega Drive gamepads could be used as a CD32 gamepad replacement and the button layout / colours on those are different (mainly no shoulder buttons, only face buttons).

Photon · 12 October 2018, 11:35

USB adapter would be ace, then you could basically get the controller you like

Or even one you already have. Obviously I could roll my own, but I suspect I'd need the small PCB from a CD32 one? Could be hard to fit it. I haven't actually looked at the schematics, I got two controllers when AmigaKit had them. Anyone have schematics?

I have a spare controller that I could hack.

19 October 2018, 10:16

I just bought an adapter so I can use 6 button Megadrive pads on the CD32. I dont mind the original CD32 pad, but always love the Megadrive pads, so it was a no brainer.

Retro-Nerd · 19 October 2018, 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by retronut0001

I just bought an adapter so I can use 6 button Megadrive pads on the CD32. I dont mind the original CD32 pad, but always love the Megadrive pads, so it was a no brainer.

Any link? I'm interested too.

edit: Ah, found it. Probably this one, right? Bought it. Hopefully it works with my wireless Joyzz (perfect Sega 6 button pad from KRIKZZ) too.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sega-Mega...Doik:rk:1:pf:0

Gordon · 19 October 2018, 13:46

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sega-Mega...Doik:rk:2:pf:0

19 October 2018, 14:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sega-Mega...Doik:rk:2:pf:0

Yes those are the ones, should be with me in the next week or so.

02 August 2018, 22:05	#41
nexus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: USA Posts: 728	yeah i hate the d-pad divided up like that try playing nes contra on a xbox 360 controller lol hitting down you can easily move forward and kill yourself 1 thing i never understood is how people like the nes max controller had friends growing up that loved that thing Last edited by nexus; 02 August 2018 at 22:11.

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03 August 2018, 07:17	#42
ruinashiro Registered User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 51	Mostly what everyone else said. Poor quality dpad and buttons, not a great layout. No problem ergonomically, except: The protrusions on the dpad feel like razor spikes 30 minutes into a game. And I broke more of them than for any other system.

03 August 2018, 09:41	#43
Leffmann Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,269	The directional pad was a bit bulky, other than that I liked it very much.

03 August 2018, 10:34	#44
Glen M Registered User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Belfast Posts: 750	I find the pad fairly comfortable to hold. I think its a good size. The 4 face buttons and shoulder buttons are fine the d-pad isn't great and the start button is a spongy mess. My biggest complaint however is the angle of the D-Pad. It sites at a slight angle which for me makes it unnatural to align your thumb to. It can lead to difficulty in my eyes for games that require specific inputs such as beat em ups. I think to make it better the buttons should of have slightly more travel to give a more response to the user. The D-pad should have been straight and the face of it should have been deeper. One of my favorite controllers is the original xbox, yes the duke. Its bulky and heavy in the hand making it feel strong and it keeps your hands focused. The dpad is very good and the buttons are all responsive. Can we make an adapter for it?

03 August 2018, 11:12	#45
BSzili old chunk of coal Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,289	I can see what they were going for with the angled d-pad, it's about the same as my thumb's angle when I hold the controller, but I'm just too used to straight D-pads from other controllers at this point. I wish somebody made clones of the Competition Pro / Honeybee controller. I'm just a sucker for the 1st gen Mega Driver gamepad style.

03 August 2018, 17:26	#46
nexus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: USA Posts: 728	that all above about the angle is really due to how big you are and where you like your arms to rest eg: i love the wiiu gamepad and how wide it is i can keep my arms straight and wrists with elbows to the sides instead of elbows being more into your chest/stomach

06 August 2018, 21:56	#48
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Ah, thanks for the info. Looking forward to test something in the (hopefully) near future.

15 August 2018, 11:53	#49
Anachronist Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 71	I wonder if one of the wireless solutions for Sega Genesis/Megadrive controllers would work with the CD32 controller?

15 August 2018, 12:04	#50
Gordon Settler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Serf City Posts: 1,760	I know wireless playstation 2 controllers work when used with the CD32 PSX adapter.

15 August 2018, 17:28	#52
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Great news. Can't wait to test one of your wireless pads. Hopefully somebody can help you with the production/assembling process.

15 August 2018, 22:42	#53
DanyPPC Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Italy Posts: 729	Wireless pad for Amiga ? WoW

12 October 2018, 11:35	#56
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	USB adapter would be ace, then you could basically get the controller you like Or even one you already have. Obviously I could roll my own, but I suspect I'd need the small PCB from a CD32 one? Could be hard to fit it. I haven't actually looked at the schematics, I got two controllers when AmigaKit had them. Anyone have schematics? I have a spare controller that I could hack.

19 October 2018, 10:16	#57
retronut0001 Posts: n/a	I just bought an adapter so I can use 6 button Megadrive pads on the CD32. I dont mind the original CD32 pad, but always love the Megadrive pads, so it was a no brainer.

19 October 2018, 13:46	#59
Gordon Settler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Serf City Posts: 1,760	https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sega-Mega...Doik:rk:2:pf:0

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