Blizzard 1230-IV SCSI KIT

lopos2000 · 22 June 2006, 15:51

I am thinking of buying the Blizzard 1230-IV SCSI Kit. Is it any good as I want to expand my A1200?
If someone has one spare please contact me.

amigakit.com · 22 June 2006, 16:29

The Blizzard SCSI Kit is a DMA interface so it can operate independently from the CPU leaving the CPU to do other tasks. It also provides another useful SIMM socket (upto 128MB).

If you have a Blizzard 1230 though, you will need to put it into 70ns mode when using the second SIMM socket. Other Blizzards such as the 1240 and 1260 dont need to do this.

Chain · 22 June 2006, 16:32

and its not bootable

Edit: ...if eprom isnt properly socketed

DoctorQ · 22 June 2006, 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chain

and its not bootable

What is this kind of nonsense??? I have two Blizzard SCSI kits, and both works fine with bootable harddrives. So did my two previous Blizzard SCSI kits.

Chain · 22 June 2006, 16:44

so its only problem with mine?

Dunno why, but i cant use/see 1230scsi.device without software update to rev 8.5

I bought it not long ago at amigakit

Code:

USAGE & INSTALLATION
        Very  easy:   First  copy at least the files SoftSCSI and A1234.ROM of
        this  archive  in  your C:  assign.  Now put in the first line of your
        startup-sequence this one:

        C:SoftSCSI

DoctorQ · 22 June 2006, 16:47

Well, the utilities shown in this picture hasn't been loaded from a floppy disk

Chain · 22 June 2006, 16:49

so you can type

Code:

version 1230scsi.device

at any time?

damn!

Chain · 22 June 2006, 16:50

im waiting for the end of warranty for burning new ROM, but maybe i can return it as not bootable aka defective?

CFou! · 22 June 2006, 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoctorQ

What is this kind of nonsense??? I have two Blizzard SCSI kits, and both works fine with bootable harddrives. So did my two previous Blizzard SCSI kits.

yes, but without ide devices, it's seems

a friend has a scsi kit on blizzard 1260 + quantum fireball 2go, but if there are no hard drive ide mounted and only an ide cdrom... There are about 40 second black screen before the boot.......

I had solved it using a bootable ide devices with the scsi HD

lopos2000 · 22 June 2006, 16:53

So, it's worth getting it than. Can I use it with internal and external devices?

DoctorQ · 22 June 2006, 16:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chain

so you can type

Code:

version 1230scsi.device

at any time?

damn!

Yes.

DoctorQ · 22 June 2006, 16:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFOU!

yes, but without ide devices, it's seems

a friend has a scsi kit on blizzard 1260 + quantum fireball 2go, but if there are no hard drive ide mounted and only a ide cdrom... There are a 40 second black screen before the boot.......

I have solve the solution using a bootable ide devices with the scsi HD

The boot delay is normal if you use SCSI devices. You can build a little adaptor to disable the IDE port, so you avoid the boot delay on power up. You can also disable the IDE port through software (using BlizKick), but that won't disable the boot delay on power up, only after the first reset.

Chain · 22 June 2006, 16:58

you dont uderstand what im saying, pardon my bad english.

this is not a matter of boot delay cos im still using ide 2.5 drive, but after boot to wb WITHOUT SOFTSCSI i cant see 1230scsi.device

simply

patrik · 22 June 2006, 17:01

Here you will find the instructions to make a blob which removes the wait if you have no harddrive attached. This one says it is for the A4000, but just ignore the power-pins on the 2.5" ide connector in the A1200 (pin 41-44) and it will be the same. You will need a 2.5" connector instead of a 3.5" also ofcourse.

@Chain:

Are you sure it isn't so that the rom on your card is simply broken or can't be read for some other readon, as that would result in no 1230scsi.device being available at boot. SoftSCSI just puts a new 1230scsi.device in ram, disregarding of wether the onboard rom works or not.

Have you tried SoftSCSI with a rom-image of an older version of 1230scsi.device?

DoctorQ · 22 June 2006, 17:02

@Chain

To whom are you writing? My recent answer was to CFOU!

Chain · 22 June 2006, 17:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrik

Are you sure it isn't so that the rom on your card is simply broken or can't be read for some other readon, as that would result in no 1230scsi.device being available at boot. SoftSCSI just puts a new 1230scsi.device in ram, disregarding of wether the onboard rom works or not.

how i can read it?

it must not be removed (says amigakit), cos card is still in warranty

Chain · 22 June 2006, 17:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoctorQ

@Chain
To whom are you writing? My recent answer was to CFOU!

it doeznt matter, as it didnt solve my problem, so forget it

Are you sure you can see thar device anytime, without softscsi?

DoctorQ · 22 June 2006, 17:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chain

it doeznt matter, as it didnt solve my problem, so forget it

Are you sure you can see thar device anytime, without softscsi?

Yes, of course. If the harddrive on the Blizzard SCSI kit couldn't be accessed without launching SoftSCSI (haven't even heard of it before) I would just be stuck with the purple boot screen, since I only use SCSI drives in my Amigas.

patrik · 22 June 2006, 17:14

@Chain:
Yes you can see the device without SoftSCSI, I assure you that it works every time on my A1200. The card is made to be autobootable and this isn't the kickstart1.2 stoneage

.

If the computer is unable to load the device from the rom on the card into ram at boot, it will not be autobootable.

Have you tried to load an older version than 8.5 of 1230scsi.device btw? SoftSCSI doesn't care about wether the rom works or not, it just puts the image you specify into ram.. What I am trying to say is - are you sure it is just a version issue?

Chain · 22 June 2006, 17:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoctorQ

I would just be stuck with the purple boot screen, since I only use SCSI drives in my Amigas.

thats exactly my situation after removing ide drive

22 June 2006, 15:51	#1
lopos2000 Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cider is best In The West Posts: 1,238	Blizzard 1230-IV SCSI KIT I am thinking of buying the Blizzard 1230-IV SCSI Kit. Is it any good as I want to expand my A1200? If someone has one spare please contact me.

22 June 2006, 16:32	#3
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	and its not bootable Edit: ...if eprom isnt properly socketed Last edited by Chain; 22 June 2006 at 19:48.

22 June 2006, 16:44	#5
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	so its only problem with mine? Dunno why, but i cant use/see 1230scsi.device without software update to rev 8.5 I bought it not long ago at amigakit Code: USAGE & INSTALLATION Very easy: First copy at least the files SoftSCSI and A1234.ROM of this archive in your C: assign. Now put in the first line of your startup-sequence this one: C:SoftSCSI

22 June 2006, 16:49	#7
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	so you can type Code: version 1230scsi.device at any time? damn!

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22 June 2006, 16:29	#2
amigakit.com Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: www.amigakit.com Posts: 2,015	The Blizzard SCSI Kit is a DMA interface so it can operate independently from the CPU leaving the CPU to do other tasks. It also provides another useful SIMM socket (upto 128MB). If you have a Blizzard 1230 though, you will need to put it into 70ns mode when using the second SIMM socket. Other Blizzards such as the 1240 and 1260 dont need to do this.

22 June 2006, 16:47	#6
DoctorQ What?? Who?? DoctorQ!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Rødding/Denmark Age: 43 Posts: 314	Well, the utilities shown in this picture hasn't been loaded from a floppy disk

22 June 2006, 16:50	#8
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	im waiting for the end of warranty for burning new ROM, but maybe i can return it as not bootable aka defective?

22 June 2006, 16:53	#10
lopos2000 Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cider is best In The West Posts: 1,238	So, it's worth getting it than. Can I use it with internal and external devices?

22 June 2006, 16:58	#13
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	you dont uderstand what im saying, pardon my bad english. this is not a matter of boot delay cos im still using ide 2.5 drive, but after boot to wb WITHOUT SOFTSCSI i cant see 1230scsi.device simply

22 June 2006, 17:01	#14
patrik Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Umeå Age: 43 Posts: 922	Here you will find the instructions to make a blob which removes the wait if you have no harddrive attached. This one says it is for the A4000, but just ignore the power-pins on the 2.5" ide connector in the A1200 (pin 41-44) and it will be the same. You will need a 2.5" connector instead of a 3.5" also ofcourse. @Chain: Are you sure it isn't so that the rom on your card is simply broken or can't be read for some other readon, as that would result in no 1230scsi.device being available at boot. SoftSCSI just puts a new 1230scsi.device in ram, disregarding of wether the onboard rom works or not. Have you tried SoftSCSI with a rom-image of an older version of 1230scsi.device?

22 June 2006, 17:02	#15
DoctorQ What?? Who?? DoctorQ!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Rødding/Denmark Age: 43 Posts: 314	@Chain To whom are you writing? My recent answer was to CFOU!

22 June 2006, 17:14	#19
patrik Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Umeå Age: 43 Posts: 922	@Chain: Yes you can see the device without SoftSCSI, I assure you that it works every time on my A1200. The card is made to be autobootable and this isn't the kickstart1.2 stoneage . If the computer is unable to load the device from the rom on the card into ram at boot, it will not be autobootable. Have you tried to load an older version than 8.5 of 1230scsi.device btw? SoftSCSI doesn't care about wether the rom works or not, it just puts the image you specify into ram.. What I am trying to say is - are you sure it is just a version issue?

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