Video Toaster ...PAL??

[jimbobrocks92]

Hi I'm looking at doing some oldschool video production on my new A4000!
I would like to know if the VideoToaster ever had a Pal version ?

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Cheers James

[gulliver]

Not for Amiga. But if you have an Amiga Videotoaster, you can always use the GVP TBC+, which was a very good transcoder back in the day, and allowed you to use the Videotoaster on PAL TV signals.

[jimbobrocks92]

thanks Gulliver

[jimbobrocks92]

will it allow to use pal inputs in the toaster card

[gulliver]

Yes, but you will need as many GVP TBC+ as your setup requires, and this will depend on the inputs or outputs you wish to convert between PAL and NTSC.

More info on the GVP TBC+
http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/search....ny=gvp#tbcplus

GVP official website
http://www.gvp-m.com/

[jimbobrocks92]

thanks again
do you know of any similar cards that work with pal signals

[alexh]

Surely today you don't need a video toaster? I thought that it was hardware for compositing broadcast quality Analog and Digital video together in the Analog domain. Surely in today's world you'd digitise the Analog video with a $30 professional PCI digitiser for a Mac or PC and mix in the digital domain?

(I know that Video Toaster Flyer had NLE in Digital domain)

[Pyromania]

@jimbobrocks92

Flying Buddy might be able to help you.

http://www.discreetfx.com/amigaproducts.html




$30 professional PCI digitizer's don't include a real-time 4-input video switcher.

[alexh]

Originally Posted by Pyromania

[Video Toaster] includes a real-time 4-input video switcher

A useful feature these days? I very much doubt it.

I imagine most people using the Amiga for video editing (or doing any video editing) doesn't need real-time analog video switching?

[Pyromania]

Originally Posted by alexh

A useful feature these days? I very much doubt it.

I imagine most people using the Amiga for video editing (or doing any video editing) doesn't need real-time analog video switching?

If that's the case then it would not be the right product for them. We delivered the hardware that our Amiga Video Toaster customers were asking for. The joystick was just an added bonus.

[alexh]

Originally Posted by Pyromania

We delivered the hardware that our Amiga Video Toaster customers were asking for. The joystick was just an added bonus.

Erm, wrong thread.

[Pyromania]

@alexh

Your right, sorry about that. He is looking for PAL inputs. Flying Buddy will not help him.

[gulliver]

Originally Posted by jimbobrocks92

thanks again
do you know of any similar cards that work with pal signals

Well, there is one similar device than the Videotoaster but it is an external box for Amiga, very rare to find. I only saw one like 2 years ago on ebay. It is called Video Blender http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/videoblender, and has many similar features and it worked on PAL setups.

BTW there is also another good transcoder for Zorro Amigas, difficult to find though. It is the Prime Image SC http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/search....=Prime%20Image (the one at the bottom)

I hope it helps.

[jimbobrocks92]

thx guys

what i think ill do by an external pal to ntsc converter(see here http://cgi.ebay.com.au/TV-AV-Video-S...item4ced120171)
for each input and a ntsc to pal converter for the outputs

oh and rca to bnc adaptors

what do people think?

[alexh]

Quality will suck using something like that.

[jimbobrocks92]

what the converter?

[alexh]

Yup. If this is just a "I want to play with my video toaster" exercise then it should work and be acceptable.

If you want to do a studio quality production then you probably want to look for an alternative technology.

[gulliver]

alexh is right. The solutions I was proposing you were for professional work. With those adapters you wont get any kind of good quality. There are various different methods for converting one standart to the other, on cheap devices, just like the one you suggest. You can never be sure that the method they use doesnt generate signal noise, and retains the image characteristics you desire.

But, as alexh said, if this is just a mere exercise for getting a videotoaster to work on PAL, then go ahead and try it.

[jimbobrocks92]

thx guys.
Its just for a fiddle about with my new a4000(Cyberstorm MK1 68060 with 128 mb of ram)
if I really have a blast using it. I might buy better equipment later

Thanks for all your help

Cheers James