Carrier Command: fuel opcodes..? - Page 2

Thrash911 · 28 May 2007, 00:05

Well.. You can make the Manta take off like this:

1. Choose Mantas (left icon row, 4th from top)
2. Choose Deck view (right icon row, 4th from top)
3. At bottom of screen, choose the little carrier with UP arrow.
4. At bottom of screen, choose the take-off icon.

It's a little hard to get into. But once u learn it, it can be interresting. At least, it was in the aerly 90's..

I'll post another message in 2 mins..

Thrash911 · 28 May 2007, 00:09

U can change the Fuel level for Manta 1, while it's on the ship. So the fuel values change in memory. Like this:

1. Choose Mantas, like before.
2. Choose loading bay (right icon row, 3rd from top)
3. In bottom right corner of the screen, the word "REFUEL" is seen. With the arrows beside here, you can drain fuel, or give it fuel.

You don't have to help me, if you get frustrated, I know what that is like.

BippyM · 28 May 2007, 00:20

check out addy $1fce8

Thrash911 · 28 May 2007, 00:26

Whoah... That one works! You're good. I have lots to learn.. Can you please tell me how you found it?

BippyM · 28 May 2007, 00:29

i used a memwatch point on the address $4ae

Code:

ms 4ae

when the replay activated i looked around the code for a sub... putr in a NOP and tested

Thrash911 · 28 May 2007, 00:38

hmm.. "looked around the code"..

When it froze here, it jumped in at about 13D1A.. That seems far from the address you found. How did you get to it? Or is it complicated to explain?

When it froze, you started searching just by typing D (disassemble), right? From there, you have to really know some things anbout assembler code, to track it down?

BippyM · 28 May 2007, 00:55

i setthe memwatch, and then pressed d.. went down the screen, and back up looking for the sub

Thrash911 · 28 May 2007, 01:04

Did it jump in at 13D1A when you did it? It does that everytime here. And there is a lot of sub commands between 13D1A and 1FCE8..

BippyM · 28 May 2007, 01:05

no it jumped in around 1fce8 (a few commands after)

Thrash911 · 28 May 2007, 01:07

Oh.. I took the fuel away manually. When I fly around, it jumps in at around the address u found.. That's good. I learned something today! Thanks a lot!

EDIT: Sorry, another question.. Is it generally in the SAME subroutine everytime?

BippyM · 28 May 2007, 01:09

in that game yes i think.. other games use diff methods and it's trial amd error.. i don't mind helping you on irc etc

Thrash911 · 28 May 2007, 01:13

Okay, I can only get better, I guess. Thank you very much for your help! I'm happy!

BippyM · 28 May 2007, 01:14

hehehe you're welcome.. now find other stuff :P

Thrash911 · 28 May 2007, 01:28

Yeah, I just did. I successfully found the one for the fuel for the Carrier (at 21402). It worked. This is cool! Hehe..

BippyM · 28 May 2007, 01:29

heheeh now make it permanent ;P

Thrash911 · 28 May 2007, 01:35

Whoa whoa... That's another story for me. Not yet.

I read some crack tutorials here and there, about how you change what u have to change. Then find where the program starts and ends, and dump it to disk, and pack it.. Somehow.. It's all very interresting, but I don't think I'm ready to learn that just yet. If I have to make it permanent, I have to do it the extremely lame way - dump the whole memory to disk!

For now, I'll take tons of notes, and a few save-states in WinUAE..

BippyM · 28 May 2007, 01:36

heheeh well there are loads more games

Thrash911 · 28 May 2007, 01:42

Yeah. I'm not gonna be bored just yet..

BippyM · 28 May 2007, 01:45

lol i learnt this way and using tutorials on flashtro.com. There is a lot of info in the coders sectrion here

28 May 2007, 00:29	#25
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	i used a memwatch point on the address $4ae Code: ms 4ae when the replay activated i looked around the code for a sub... putr in a NOP and tested

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28 May 2007, 00:05	#21
Thrash911 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denmark Age: 48 Posts: 29	Well.. You can make the Manta take off like this: 1. Choose Mantas (left icon row, 4th from top) 2. Choose Deck view (right icon row, 4th from top) 3. At bottom of screen, choose the little carrier with UP arrow. 4. At bottom of screen, choose the take-off icon. It's a little hard to get into. But once u learn it, it can be interresting. At least, it was in the aerly 90's.. I'll post another message in 2 mins..

28 May 2007, 00:09	#22
Thrash911 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denmark Age: 48 Posts: 29	U can change the Fuel level for Manta 1, while it's on the ship. So the fuel values change in memory. Like this: 1. Choose Mantas, like before. 2. Choose loading bay (right icon row, 3rd from top) 3. In bottom right corner of the screen, the word "REFUEL" is seen. With the arrows beside here, you can drain fuel, or give it fuel. You don't have to help me, if you get frustrated, I know what that is like.

28 May 2007, 00:20	#23
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	check out addy $1fce8

28 May 2007, 00:26	#24
Thrash911 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denmark Age: 48 Posts: 29	Whoah... That one works! You're good. I have lots to learn.. Can you please tell me how you found it?

28 May 2007, 00:38	#26
Thrash911 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denmark Age: 48 Posts: 29	hmm.. "looked around the code".. When it froze here, it jumped in at about 13D1A.. That seems far from the address you found. How did you get to it? Or is it complicated to explain? When it froze, you started searching just by typing D (disassemble), right? From there, you have to really know some things anbout assembler code, to track it down?

28 May 2007, 00:55	#27
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	i setthe memwatch, and then pressed d.. went down the screen, and back up looking for the sub

28 May 2007, 01:04	#28
Thrash911 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denmark Age: 48 Posts: 29	Did it jump in at 13D1A when you did it? It does that everytime here. And there is a lot of sub commands between 13D1A and 1FCE8..

28 May 2007, 01:05	#29
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	no it jumped in around 1fce8 (a few commands after)

28 May 2007, 01:07	#30
Thrash911 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denmark Age: 48 Posts: 29	Oh.. I took the fuel away manually. When I fly around, it jumps in at around the address u found.. That's good. I learned something today! Thanks a lot! EDIT: Sorry, another question.. Is it generally in the SAME subroutine everytime?

28 May 2007, 01:09	#31
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	in that game yes i think.. other games use diff methods and it's trial amd error.. i don't mind helping you on irc etc

28 May 2007, 01:13	#32
Thrash911 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denmark Age: 48 Posts: 29	Okay, I can only get better, I guess. Thank you very much for your help! I'm happy!

28 May 2007, 01:14	#33
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	hehehe you're welcome.. now find other stuff :P

28 May 2007, 01:28	#34
Thrash911 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denmark Age: 48 Posts: 29	Yeah, I just did. I successfully found the one for the fuel for the Carrier (at 21402). It worked. This is cool! Hehe..

28 May 2007, 01:29	#35
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	heheeh now make it permanent ;P

28 May 2007, 01:35	#36
Thrash911 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denmark Age: 48 Posts: 29	Whoa whoa... That's another story for me. Not yet. I read some crack tutorials here and there, about how you change what u have to change. Then find where the program starts and ends, and dump it to disk, and pack it.. Somehow.. It's all very interresting, but I don't think I'm ready to learn that just yet. If I have to make it permanent, I have to do it the extremely lame way - dump the whole memory to disk! For now, I'll take tons of notes, and a few save-states in WinUAE..

28 May 2007, 01:36	#37
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	heheeh well there are loads more games

28 May 2007, 01:42	#38
Thrash911 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denmark Age: 48 Posts: 29	Yeah. I'm not gonna be bored just yet..

28 May 2007, 01:45	#39
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	lol i learnt this way and using tutorials on flashtro.com. There is a lot of info in the coders sectrion here

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