SAD : Simple Amiga Debugger

[kamelito]

3.0 introduced SAD which was not a fully debugger like RomWack.
Was there any debugger built around the features of SAD?

Update : I found this one which is recent but I suppose that other exist.
https://github.com/rvalles/pyamigadebug

[copse]

"SAD is dead. 3.1.4 comes with ROMWack again, but COP is certainly more powerful." said Thomas Richter.

[admiral]

SAD is much more usable than RomWack for machines, with its binary interface. Much less overhead, too.

RomWack allows direct human use; It is possible to just attach a terminal to the serial port. However, it is fragile, slow, and overall terrible. It is part of the kickstart, but any of the debuggers available for the Amiga will otherwise be better.

There's some notes on RomWack in https://github.com/rvalles/pyamigade...ee/master/docs

For SAD, just check the 3.1 dev docs. https://amigadev.elowar.com/read/ADC.../node0249.html

(partial) Debugger wrappers at:

https://github.com/rvalles/pyamigade...ter/RomWack.py

https://github.com/rvalles/pyamigade.../master/SAD.py

I will eventually have enough to implement gdb protocol.

[Thomas Richter]

SAD was just a sad replacement of the ROMWack due to lack of ROM space, but since it required an external smart terminal, there wasn't really much use for it. ROMWack is back, and while it is not great, it at least provides you with some very basic capabilities just using a terminal and a NUL-modem cable.

There are certainly better debuggers than the ROMWack, but I personally do not want SAD back.

[copse]

Originally Posted by admiral

I will eventually have enough to implement gdb protocol.

What do you envision yourself being able to do with it that you can't now?

[admiral]

Originally Posted by copse

What do you envision yourself being able to do with it that you can't now?

Use gdb, radare, ghidra and other such tools w/o running anything special in the Amiga side.

Furthermore, there is nothing on the way to stop me from abstracting other Amiga debuggers, or writing my own.

So far, however, I only implemented enough debugger functionality to change registers, read/write memory and jump around, as needed by AmigaXfer. For debugging proper, I'd need at least support for breakpoints and stepping.

It is not at the top of my priority list, as getting next amigaXfer release out is more important now (exposing HDD support in the GUI), but it will eventually happen.