Trying to rip Double Dragon backgrounds

Brick Nash · 18 September 2017, 16:40

Hi all,

I quite fancy having a go at doing a port of Double Dragon. Just as a hobby and to try and improve my coding skills. The original Amiga game was a bit of a disaster, but I always thought the backgrounds were ok so I would like to use them but I can't seem to make it work in Maptapper.

I found a few sprites but nothing which resembles backgrounds and I can't get the palette right no matter what. I followed the tutorial videos but it's not working.

This isn't a request for the BGs, I'll happily do all the work, but I need a guidance on how to use Maptapper effectively as I'm sure I'm doing something wrong.

I took a save state of when I was on the first level of the game and am using that but I'm not sure if that's correct.

Any help would be great. Thanks!

clenched · 18 September 2017, 17:54

1 - Rip the tiles.
2 - Lasso a chunk of tiles for map search.
3 - Plug results into map ripper tab then adjust height and position.

Brick Nash · 18 September 2017, 18:53

Thanks for the reply.

Ok I got the tiles and saved them but when I search the image I save it keeps saying:

"Unmatched tiles, cannot continue"

The image is at the right scale, so I must be doing something else wrong.

clenched · 18 September 2017, 19:14

It worked first time for me. Anyway if you can't coax it to work there are already maps on HOL. Divide the picture width and height by 16 to tell what goes in the map ripper tab. The next maps will likely stay near the current address.

dlfrsilver · 18 September 2017, 19:32

Boys, i have the tiles with the correct colors from the arcade machine.

I'm sure it will help, but just remind that the arcade machine display 256 colors for the background and 128 colors for the possible sprites on screen.

As soon as i get my PC again online (it anormaly heats up and shut down), i'll post here the arcade tiles

Brick Nash · 18 September 2017, 19:50

Oh cool, I didn't realise someone had already ripped the maps.

Are there versions without the HOL watermark though? All the files in the download zip have them embedded.

dlfrsilver · 18 September 2017, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brick Nash

Oh cool, I didn't realise someone had already ripped the maps.

Are there versions without the HOL watermark though? All the files in the download zip have them embedded.

It's the coin-op graphics, so there is no reason for them to have the HOL watermarking.

ransom1122 · 19 September 2017, 14:53

Gibs was working on an amigs double dragon update. But nothing had surfaced.
[ Show youtube player ]

dlfrsilver · 19 September 2017, 22:01

My PC is up and running again

So here are the double dragon arcade tiles full colors !

dlfrsilver · 19 September 2017, 22:05

the tile backgrounds now

Brick Nash · 25 September 2017, 10:25

dlfsilver - Got them now mate. Thanks for that!

Ransom1122 - Yeah I came across those videos a while ago before I even thought about doing this port. I'm not sure if his project is still gong or if it ran out of steam, but hey, two different ports of the same game is better than one shitty one.

Retro-Nerd · 25 September 2017, 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by ransom1122

Gibs was working on an amigs double dragon update. But nothing had surfaced.

He canceled it. Maybe better. The current rights holder still produces new games (last was Double Dragon IV).

Brick Nash · 25 September 2017, 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

He canceled it. Maybe better. The current rights holder still produces new games (last was Double Dragon IV).

I'm just doing this as a fan project so I don't plan, nor did I ever plan on ever attempting to make money from it. I'm throwing some extra things into my conversion like a few new moves so it will certainly be a custom job and not quite a direct copy of the arcade game.

There's almost literally thousands of unofficial OpenBOR Double Dragon games out there so I don't think whoever holds the rights to it will bother about a homebrew port on a 30 year old machine.

OmegaMax · 25 September 2017, 17:45

dlfrsilver,that's awesome thanks for that.

dlfrsilver · 25 September 2017, 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmegaMax

dlfrsilver,that's awesome thanks for that.

hehehe lol Well it took me 6 hours to process them

Brick Nash · 26 September 2017, 21:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

hehehe lol Well it took me 6 hours to process them

I really appreciate it.

Did you say you had the sprites too? I can't find any sprite sheets for any of the baddies anywhere so that so that would be great if you have them.

Ripping sprites from MAME isn't my forte at all. It took me two hours to get two frames from Double Dragon II yesterday haha.

redblade · 27 September 2017, 11:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

the tile backgrounds now

Great work. Do you use Turaco? Or do you rip them manually? Turaco is hard because you have to manually do the palette.

dlfrsilver · 27 September 2017, 11:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by redblade

Great work. Do you use Turaco? Or do you rip them manually? Turaco is hard because you have to manually do the palette.

nope

i use a special mame version + tiled

18 September 2017, 16:40	#1
Brick Nash Prototron Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 411	Trying to rip Double Dragon backgrounds Hi all, I quite fancy having a go at doing a port of Double Dragon. Just as a hobby and to try and improve my coding skills. The original Amiga game was a bit of a disaster, but I always thought the backgrounds were ok so I would like to use them but I can't seem to make it work in Maptapper. I found a few sprites but nothing which resembles backgrounds and I can't get the palette right no matter what. I followed the tutorial videos but it's not working. This isn't a request for the BGs, I'll happily do all the work, but I need a guidance on how to use Maptapper effectively as I'm sure I'm doing something wrong. I took a save state of when I was on the first level of the game and am using that but I'm not sure if that's correct. Any help would be great. Thanks!

18 September 2017, 17:54	#2
clenched Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gainesville U.S.A. Posts: 771	1 - Rip the tiles. 2 - Lasso a chunk of tiles for map search. 3 - Plug results into map ripper tab then adjust height and position. Attached Thumbnails

19 September 2017, 22:01	#9
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	My PC is up and running again So here are the double dragon arcade tiles full colors ! Last edited by dlfrsilver; 31 August 2021 at 22:46.

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18 September 2017, 18:53	#3
Brick Nash Prototron Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 411	Thanks for the reply. Ok I got the tiles and saved them but when I search the image I save it keeps saying: "Unmatched tiles, cannot continue" The image is at the right scale, so I must be doing something else wrong.

18 September 2017, 19:14	#4
clenched Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gainesville U.S.A. Posts: 771	It worked first time for me. Anyway if you can't coax it to work there are already maps on HOL. Divide the picture width and height by 16 to tell what goes in the map ripper tab. The next maps will likely stay near the current address.

18 September 2017, 19:32	#5
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	Boys, i have the tiles with the correct colors from the arcade machine. I'm sure it will help, but just remind that the arcade machine display 256 colors for the background and 128 colors for the possible sprites on screen. As soon as i get my PC again online (it anormaly heats up and shut down), i'll post here the arcade tiles

18 September 2017, 19:50	#6
Brick Nash Prototron Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 411	Oh cool, I didn't realise someone had already ripped the maps. Are there versions without the HOL watermark though? All the files in the download zip have them embedded.

19 September 2017, 14:53	#8
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,812	Gibs was working on an amigs double dragon update. But nothing had surfaced. [ Show youtube player ]

25 September 2017, 10:25	#11
Brick Nash Prototron Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 411	dlfsilver - Got them now mate. Thanks for that! Ransom1122 - Yeah I came across those videos a while ago before I even thought about doing this port. I'm not sure if his project is still gong or if it ran out of steam, but hey, two different ports of the same game is better than one shitty one.

25 September 2017, 17:45	#14
OmegaMax Knight Of The Kingdom Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: It's a bald world! Posts: 179	dlfrsilver,that's awesome thanks for that.

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