icon.library 46.4 test versions

[PeterK]

Hi AMIGASYSTEM,

don't know what you want to show me in your video clip?

Of course, NewIcons, OS 3.5, OS4 and PNG icons won't need any pens on a TrueColor screen. They are directly drawn into the graphic card memory with WritePixelArray(). Only the old-style planar icons (like MWB) are using the 256 pens of the screen palette and maybe some of the GUI elements of your theme.

Just tested: AfA_OS indeed ignores the Workbench setting: "No color icons" !

[kolla]

Originally Posted by PeterK

Btw, why didn't you tell PunkyClown at Amiga.org that he could fix wrong MWB colors with FixMWB? I don't have an account there. Converting MWB icons with ProcessIcon into the OS 3.5 format just wastes memory and makes loading them much slower.

I had no idea about FixMWB, really, I just said how I solved "the problem". Must say I haven't noticed any slow-down or memory drain using colour icons instead of old-school MWB, but of course you know this much better than I do. I will check it out next time I pull out the Minimig

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Originally Posted by PeterK

don't know what you want to show me in your video clip?

Sorry I probably do not understand my English, you've seen the whole video?
AFA OS System do not use "Workbench.prefs" dedicated Theme to MagicWB"

[PeterK]

I really like Italian icecream (gelati) since I've been in Scacchi at the Adriatic Sea in 1965 and also Italian Pizza since it was brought to Germany later, but I still don't understand much of the Italian language or Italian English yet.

[AMIGASYSTEM]

My English is Google Translator

My Town and low Adriatic
[ Show youtube player ]

[PeterK]

Not bad !!

Seems that Brindisi has developed a lot since I've been there with my school friend in May 1981 during an Interrail tour through Europe. Unfortunatly, we did not see much of Brindisi because we were only checking all the ticket argencies to get the cheapest ticket for the next ferry to Patras in Greece as soon as possible. We did no sightseeing in Brindisi, although it looks nice in your video clip.

A selfie from 1965 in Scacchi:

[AMIGASYSTEM]

I was born in 1954, Brindisi now is more beautiful

[hexaae]

@PeterK
Do you know if the bugs fixed by PatchWB http://m68k.aminet.net/package/util/boot/PatchWB are included in latest patch for workbench.library 45.132 + IPrefs 45.13?
Because I still have (rare) random WB hangs when reopening WB screen in my WB3.9...

[PeterK]

Hello hexaae,

no, I've never tested PatchWB under WB 3.5+ yet. Isn't it restricted to WB 3.0/3.1?

But you could try this delay before LoadWB is executed:

Run >NIL: Wait 3 +
          LoadWB

[hexaae]

Originally Posted by PeterK

Hello hexaae,

no, I've never tested PatchWB under WB 3.5+ yet. Isn't it restricted to WB 3.0/3.1?

But you could try this delay before LoadWB is executed:

Run >NIL: Wait 3 +
          LoadWB

No problem with LoadWB, but some WB games close WB screen (e.g. UFO, XTR - XTreme Racing, Ambermoon....) and sometimes WB screen hangs with pointer in the middle of the grey screen with no icons or background loaded... which behaves exactly like the well known old bug with OpenWB()
This should have been fixed by newer Iprefs and workbench.library though.
But maybe is just some of these games that corrupt something. Will find WHDLoad replacements

[PeterK]

Sorry, but I don't have any experience with WHDLoad, since i don't like to play any games.

(Never use FastIPrefs under OS 3.5+)

[Phantom]

Peter, your work on the icon library is outstanding; congratulations.

Although I would like to share my experience (including any problems that occured with the latest version). Actually there is only one problem which appears in random states after rebooting, and this has to do with color mapping.

For example when my A4000D/060 boots to Workbench, everything is fine, but after a second or two, all colors are messed up, like green background on the workbench, totally incorrect colors in menus, icons and so on. Those colors seem to change as well when I try to click somewhere (like opening a drawer, or a file).

Even ResetWB doesn't do anything. So, I wanted to ask, this behaviour has to do with the icon library? I'm just asking because I want to narrow down the problem, but I guess that another updated library can cause this issue?

Currently I'm using the latest workbench.library as well if that can be of help. Also, that problem is occured more often when I run ToolManager (instead of AmiDock) which uses brushes as icons.

I will try to grab some screenshots tonight if those can be of great help. Also, if you need any other information about my system, glad to share it.

[Amiga1992]

Originally Posted by Phantom

For example when my A4000D/060 boots to Workbench, everything is fine, but after a second or two, all colors are messed up, like green background on the workbench, totally incorrect colors in menus, icons and so on. Those colors seem to change as well when I try to click somewhere (like opening a drawer, or a file).

Are you using Fullpalette and locking the pens? Sounds to me like you might not.

[Phantom]

Hi Akira, thanks for your reply. Actually I used to have FullPalette installed (because of VisualPrefs), but when I deleted VisualPrefs I thought to delete FullPalette as well; not a wise move I guess.

[PeterK]

Hello Phantom,

what is your OS version (3.1 or 3.5/3.9) ?
which intuition-, graphics- and workbench.library are exactly in use?
what is your screenmode?
are FBlit, FastIPrefs or FPPrefs in use ?
are these wrong colors only appearing after a manual reboot (not after the first system start) ?
Please post your startup-sequence, user-startup and what is in WBStartup?

It sounds like a graphics.library problem with the pen allocation and color settings (ColorMap and PalExtra structures).

[Phantom]

Hi Peter, I'm running AmigaOS 3.9. My screenmode is 1280x1024x8. No FBlit, FastIPrefs or FPPrefs in use, about the libraries will tell you tonight after I get home; need to check the versions and dates exactly.

Those wrong colors are appearing surely after a manual reboot (but sometimes everything is fine, so it's completely random I guess?). Need to check tonight from a cold boot.

[PeterK]

1280x1024x8 seems to be a graphics card.
Which monitor driver? And P96 or CGX4?
Why an 8-bit screenmode and not HiColor or TrueColor?

[Phantom]

Yes, PicassoIV with Picasso96 mode.

8-bit screenmode, because although I managed to create HiColor or TrueColor modes at 53Hz, when you switch screens the redraw is very slow (I dunno why). Also if you load up a picture file with Multiview or MysticView (that's what I use for pics), and you move the window on a new position, the redraw again is quite slow. So I guess that's the maximum of the PIV or something else?

Yesterday I installed the latest layers.library (found on BoingBangs 3&4, of course disabled the specific layers library in LIBS: Picasso96 drawer) and I saw a better response, but again it's slow compared to 8bit mode which is ultra fast.

[PeterK]

The latest layers.library from Thomas Richter should be ok, although I once noticed some problems in conjunction with a particular RTG.library version, but that was not concerning colors, of course.

I won't recommend to use any replacement for the intuition.library.
Replacements of the graphics.library may work or not. I never use them.
Workbench.library 45.137 from BB4 works for me ATM, but sometimes it needs more than a year to find hidden bugs like in older WB replacements.

[Phantom]

Should I try with FullPalette prefs found in your latest archive first?