magicwb questions

honx · 20 January 2018, 16:41

today i installed magicwb on my amiga 500 plus equipped with aca500plus. for the first time ever i did a complete install.
is magicwb-demon responsible for slow boot-animation? why does it appear in BOTH startup-sequence AND user-startup?
i assume, simply remove the two lines to get rid of boot animation? already using fullpalette for locking magicwb colours.
and what is this dock shown in magicwb promo picture? i want to install and use this dock as well!

//edit: can't get rid of magicwb-demon as i'm loosing the ability of displaying patterns > 4 colours.
so is there any other possibility to turn off this boot animation?

Mrz · 20 January 2018, 17:02

magicwbdemon is buggy you can remove the lines,it only serves to lock the colors
yes you can use fullpallette to block the colors, pay attention the 3 numbers for each color written in the lines, then use the same numbers in full pallette

honx · 20 January 2018, 17:17

i have locked them already using fullpalette but i can't apply the deamon colours directly on this ecs machine with only 16 colours.
so line "run >nil: C:MagicWB-Demon 4,123,123,123 5,175,175,175 6,170,144,124 7,255,169,151 8,0,0,255" had to calculate down.
on an ecs screen this makes: 4,7,7,7 5,9,9,9 6,9,7,6 7,14,9,8 8,0,0,15 which are set and locked using fullpalette.
but as said above, if i remove line from startup-sequence, workbench backdrop less colours and window pattern gone completely.
so can't remove it. i can remove the line from user-startup which i have done already. that entry in user-startup was a duplicate.

McTrinsic · 20 January 2018, 17:27

Try 'obtainpens' from aminet.
Does the same as the daemon, is _really_ small and just works.

honx · 20 January 2018, 17:38

thx, i will try that coming back to my other question: what dock is used in that magicwb promo screenshot?

Mrz · 20 January 2018, 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by honx

i have locked them already using fullpalette but i can't apply the deamon colours directly on this ecs machine with only 16 colours.
so line "run >nil: C:MagicWB-Demon 4,123,123,123 5,175,175,175 6,170,144,124 7,255,169,151 8,0,0,255" had to calculate down.
on an ecs screen this makes: 4,7,7,7 5,9,9,9 6,9,7,6 7,14,9,8 8,0,0,15 which are set and locked using fullpalette.
but as said above, if i remove line from startup-sequence, workbench backdrop less colours and window pattern gone completely.
so can't remove it. i can remove the line from user-startup which i have done already. that entry in user-startup was a duplicate.

ah ok, you have an ECS machine
in the A1200 works fine as I told you,the window pattern
has nothing to do with it
try the trick suggested by MCtrinsic

honx · 20 January 2018, 17:56

okay, magicworkbench colours are now locked while patterns still work. and finally this magicwb-demon is gone.
only question about dock (magicwb promo screenshot) is left. and how to set highres pointer on workbench 3.1?

daxb · 20 January 2018, 18:36

With Prefs/Pointer you can switch between lowres and highres.

honx · 20 January 2018, 18:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by daxb

With Prefs/Pointer you can switch between lowres and highres.

option exists in workbench 3.5/3.9, but unable to find something similar in workbench 3.1 pointer prefs.

in pointer prefs on workbench 3.1 project menu contains: "open, save as, quit"
edit menu contains: "cut, copy, paste, erase, undo, load image, reset to defaults, last saved, restore"
settings menu contains: "create icons?"
gui showing cylcle ("normal/busy") and buttons "test, clear, set point, reset colors, save, use, cancel"
but there is no option which allows me to switch between highres and lowres.

Mrz · 20 January 2018, 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by honx

option exists in workbench 3.5/3.9, but unable to find something similar in workbench 3.1 pointer prefs.

in pointer prefs on workbench 3.1 project menu contains: "open, save as, quit"
edit menu contains: "cut, copy, paste, erase, undo, load image, reset to defaults, last saved, restore"
settings menu contains: "create icons?"
gui showing cylcle ("normal/busy") and buttons "test, clear, set point, reset colors, save, use, cancel"
but there is no option which allows me to switch between highres and lowres.

the option, high resolution and low resolution in Pointer preferences is only available if you have an AGA Amiga

honx · 20 January 2018, 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrz

the option, high resolution and low resolution in Pointer preferences is only available if you have an AGA Amiga

crap.

do you know what dock is shown in magicwb preview picture?

AMIGASYSTEM · 20 January 2018, 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by honx

crap.

do you know what dock is shown in magicwb preview picture?

ToolManager

For the Pointer problem, as mentioned by Mrz you need to set up Chipset AGA

honx · 20 January 2018, 21:11

thx, is toolmanager freeware or available as full version or is it shareware to be registered?

no emulation, real amiga 500 plus with ecs chipset. so it's not possible to set aga chipset.
anyway, have read about a tool called "lacepointer" found in aminet. will test it tomorrow.

btw. where can i find magicwb icons for apps like diropus, sysinfo, snoopdos, ...?

AMIGASYSTEM · 20 January 2018, 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by honx

thx, is toolmanager freeware or available as full version or is it shareware to be registered?

btw. where can i find magicwb icons for apps like diropus, sysinfo, snoopdos, ...?

It should be Giftware

ToolManagerBin -> http://aminet.net/package/util/wb/ToolManagerBin
ToolManagerExt -> http://aminet.net/package/util/wb/ToolManagerExt

However, Tool Manager is not very intuitive, HERE is a tutorial

honx · 20 January 2018, 23:00

thx! already downloaded ToolManagerBin, ToolManagerLoc and ToolManagerExt. 'll try tomorrow, following your tutorial.
do you also know where to find collections of magicwb non dock icons (for workbench use), including apps given above?

AMIGASYSTEM · 20 January 2018, 23:03

The tutorial is not mine (found on the net for you), do not forget archive "DockBrushes.lha"

McTrinsic · 20 January 2018, 23:05

Aminet is full of icon sets.
/pix/mwb

honx · 20 January 2018, 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

The tutorial is not mine (found on the net for you), do not forget archive "DockBrushes.lha"

thx, i just downloaded this archive, too.

as i have seen on your afa os screenshot, brushes are actually displayed as icons.
what do i need to install in order to see the brushes as icons without doubleclick?
here all .brush files have one default icon. doubleclick to display them in multiview.

Quote:

Originally Posted by McTrinsic

Aminet is full of icon sets.
/pix/mwb

thx! aminet really needs picture support preview images.
very much to find, this might take a while...

AMIGASYSTEM · 21 January 2018, 02:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by honx

thx, i just downloaded this archive, too.

as i have seen on your afa os screenshot, brushes are actually displayed as icons.
what do i need to install in order to see the brushes as icons without doubleclick?
here all .brush files have one default icon. doubleclick to display them in multiview.

The archive I downloaded contains all different icons "each is equal to its own brush", you downloaded This?

honx · 21 January 2018, 02:46

the file i downloaded, not exactly using this dropbox link but DockBrushes.lha from aminet.
i assume, it's the same archive containing the same icons as it's the same filename...

and what has to be installed for viewing brushes without need of multiview like in your screenshot?
on your screenshot every brush own icon showing brush. but here is only one icon for all brushes.
on workbench 3.1 i can't even doubleclick .brush files for being displayed in multiview. won't work.

20 January 2018, 16:41	#1
honx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Klagenfurt / Austria Posts: 1,569	magicwb questions today i installed magicwb on my amiga 500 plus equipped with aca500plus. for the first time ever i did a complete install. is magicwb-demon responsible for slow boot-animation? why does it appear in BOTH startup-sequence AND user-startup? i assume, simply remove the two lines to get rid of boot animation? already using fullpalette for locking magicwb colours. and what is this dock shown in magicwb promo picture? i want to install and use this dock as well! //edit: can't get rid of magicwb-demon as i'm loosing the ability of displaying patterns > 4 colours. so is there any other possibility to turn off this boot animation? Last edited by honx; 20 January 2018 at 16:51.

20 January 2018, 17:17	#3
honx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Klagenfurt / Austria Posts: 1,569	i have locked them already using fullpalette but i can't apply the deamon colours directly on this ecs machine with only 16 colours. so line "run >nil: C:MagicWB-Demon 4,123,123,123 5,175,175,175 6,170,144,124 7,255,169,151 8,0,0,255" had to calculate down. on an ecs screen this makes: 4,7,7,7 5,9,9,9 6,9,7,6 7,14,9,8 8,0,0,15 which are set and locked using fullpalette. but as said above, if i remove line from startup-sequence, workbench backdrop less colours and window pattern gone completely. so can't remove it. i can remove the line from user-startup which i have done already. that entry in user-startup was a duplicate. Last edited by honx; 20 January 2018 at 17:22.

21 January 2018, 02:46	#20
honx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Klagenfurt / Austria Posts: 1,569	the file i downloaded, not exactly using this dropbox link but DockBrushes.lha from aminet. i assume, it's the same archive containing the same icons as it's the same filename... and what has to be installed for viewing brushes without need of multiview like in your screenshot? on your screenshot every brush own icon showing brush. but here is only one icon for all brushes. on workbench 3.1 i can't even doubleclick .brush files for being displayed in multiview. won't work. Last edited by honx; 21 January 2018 at 02:53.

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20 January 2018, 17:02	#2
Mrz Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: I Posts: 338	magicwbdemon is buggy you can remove the lines,it only serves to lock the colors yes you can use fullpallette to block the colors, pay attention the 3 numbers for each color written in the lines, then use the same numbers in full pallette

20 January 2018, 17:27	#4
McTrinsic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 527	Try 'obtainpens' from aminet. Does the same as the daemon, is _really_ small and just works.

20 January 2018, 17:38	#5
honx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Klagenfurt / Austria Posts: 1,569	thx, i will try that coming back to my other question: what dock is used in that magicwb promo screenshot?

20 January 2018, 17:56	#7
honx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Klagenfurt / Austria Posts: 1,569	okay, magicworkbench colours are now locked while patterns still work. and finally this magicwb-demon is gone. only question about dock (magicwb promo screenshot) is left. and how to set highres pointer on workbench 3.1?

20 January 2018, 18:36	#8
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,304	With Prefs/Pointer you can switch between lowres and highres.

20 January 2018, 21:11	#13
honx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Klagenfurt / Austria Posts: 1,569	thx, is toolmanager freeware or available as full version or is it shareware to be registered? no emulation, real amiga 500 plus with ecs chipset. so it's not possible to set aga chipset. anyway, have read about a tool called "lacepointer" found in aminet. will test it tomorrow. btw. where can i find magicwb icons for apps like diropus, sysinfo, snoopdos, ...?

20 January 2018, 23:00	#15
honx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Klagenfurt / Austria Posts: 1,569	thx! already downloaded ToolManagerBin, ToolManagerLoc and ToolManagerExt. 'll try tomorrow, following your tutorial. do you also know where to find collections of magicwb non dock icons (for workbench use), including apps given above?

20 January 2018, 23:03	#16
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,252	The tutorial is not mine (found on the net for you), do not forget archive "DockBrushes.lha"

20 January 2018, 23:05	#17
McTrinsic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 527	Aminet is full of icon sets. /pix/mwb

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