Cannot run Poseidon (SUBWAY)

alkis21 · 05 October 2016, 23:07

I installed a 4GB CF IDE hard disk today. All I've done so far is install Workbench and Poseidon software for my SUBWAY USB ports. I want to copy my backups using a USB drive, but for the life of me I cannot get Workbench to see it. Poseidon is supposed to begin with Workbench, but it doesn't, and typing system:prefs/env-archive/PsdStackLoader does not do anything. I know that the SUBWAY still works, because it runs fine with my hard disk. It's been more than 10 years since I first installed it, so I don't remember what I did back then.

Can anyone help?

alkis21 · 07 October 2016, 21:58

I am bumping this, in case anyone knows but missed my post the first time around.

Locutus · 07 October 2016, 22:02

I think you need more then just PSDStackloader. After that you also will need to add the Host device and then the Client classes. In my setup:

I have these lines in S:startup-sequence

ENVARC:PSDStackloader
C:AddUSBHardware DEVS:Rapidroadcpusb.device quiet
C:AddUSBClasses quiet

Locutus · 07 October 2016, 22:07

Note that for a USB drive, if its a normal vfat + MBR formatted one WB wont detect it out of the box.

easiest might is to dedicate a USB stick to Amiga use by using HDToolbox to prep a RDB + FFS partition on it

alkis21 · 08 October 2016, 00:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locutus

ENVARC:PSDStackloader
C:AddUSBHardware DEVS:Rapidroadcpusb.device quiet
C:AddUSBClasses quiet

When I type that last command, I curiously get the message to 'insert volume MOSSYS in any drive".

Locutus · 08 October 2016, 00:35

....That is rather fascinating....... are you sure you havent some files messed up here?

The only thing that comes to mind is the input.device thats supplied with Poseidon that is derived from MorphOS.

I dont know whats happening for you.

What you could try is moving everything out of SYS:Classes/USB/ except for:

bootkeyboard.class
bootmouse.class
hid.class
masstorage.class
hub.class

and see what happens :-)

alkis21 · 08 October 2016, 00:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locutus

....That is rather fascinating....... are you sure you havent some files messed up here?

When did I manage to do that?

I just installed Workbench!

Quote:

What you could try is moving everything out of SYS:Classes/USB/ except for:

bootkeyboard.class
bootmouse.class
hid.class
masstorage.class
hub.class

and see what happens :-)

Same message.

Locutus · 08 October 2016, 01:02

then i'm puzzled.

What version of Poseidon are you using?

What you could try is to grab the Poseidon 4.5 archive, its meant for the RapidRoad but okay. Its the last released one.

Then just put the .device for the Subway in DEVS:USBHardware/ and change the AddUSBHardware command accordingly.

http://wiki.icomp.de/w/images/4/40/PoseidonV4.lha

FOL · 08 October 2016, 01:03

What does trident say. You will need MUI to run trident and also a higher screenmode.

alkis21 · 08 October 2016, 01:25

I did install MUI and, it's funny, when I run Trident I can see my USB drive listed in it as 'Mass Storage Device'. Why can't I see it on the Workbench screen?

alkis21 · 08 October 2016, 01:29

Mind you, I have tried other drives, they are all 4GB or less and I can see all of them just fine if I use my previous hard disk.

Locutus · 08 October 2016, 02:04

exactly what is on the USB stick? if its PC formatted it wont show up straight away.

alkis21 · 08 October 2016, 10:16

It is indeed PC formatted. And it does show up right away in my other setup.

thomas · 08 October 2016, 10:46

L:FAT95 missing?

alkis21 · 08 October 2016, 13:02

Hallelujah! That was it. Thank you so much!

alkis21 · 08 October 2016, 13:57

OK now what fresh hell is this??

I copied my files from my PC to the USB drive, thinking my troubles were over, and when I turned the Amiga on I got this message!

If I click on it a few times, Workbench starts but of course the USB drive is nowhere to be found and this time it doesn't show on Trident either.

Now every time I turn on the Amiga I get this error message. Trying it without the USB drive in the port makes no difference.

I don't know if this helps you understand what is going on, but if I boot with no startup-sequence then I don't get the error message, and I can boot Workbench from there - with limited functionality, of course.

I am very close to giving up... I've already spent more hours than I can afford on this.

alkis21 · 08 October 2016, 14:29

Not knowing what else to do, I reinstalled Workbench and now it seems OK. Currently copying my files via USB.

alkis21 · 08 October 2016, 17:17

I'm back, baby! Thanks everyone for your help.

05 October 2016, 23:07	#1
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,408	Cannot run Poseidon (SUBWAY) I installed a 4GB CF IDE hard disk today. All I've done so far is install Workbench and Poseidon software for my SUBWAY USB ports. I want to copy my backups using a USB drive, but for the life of me I cannot get Workbench to see it. Poseidon is supposed to begin with Workbench, but it doesn't, and typing system:prefs/env-archive/PsdStackLoader does not do anything. I know that the SUBWAY still works, because it runs fine with my hard disk. It's been more than 10 years since I first installed it, so I don't remember what I did back then. Can anyone help?

08 October 2016, 01:25	#10
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,408	I did install MUI and, it's funny, when I run Trident I can see my USB drive listed in it as 'Mass Storage Device'. Why can't I see it on the Workbench screen? Last edited by alkis21; 08 October 2016 at 01:39.

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07 October 2016, 21:58	#2
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,408	I am bumping this, in case anyone knows but missed my post the first time around.

07 October 2016, 22:02	#3
Locutus Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Finland Posts: 1,176	I think you need more then just PSDStackloader. After that you also will need to add the Host device and then the Client classes. In my setup: I have these lines in S:startup-sequence ENVARC:PSDStackloader C:AddUSBHardware DEVS:Rapidroadcpusb.device quiet C:AddUSBClasses quiet

07 October 2016, 22:07	#4
Locutus Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Finland Posts: 1,176	Note that for a USB drive, if its a normal vfat + MBR formatted one WB wont detect it out of the box. easiest might is to dedicate a USB stick to Amiga use by using HDToolbox to prep a RDB + FFS partition on it

08 October 2016, 00:35	#6
Locutus Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Finland Posts: 1,176	....That is rather fascinating....... are you sure you havent some files messed up here? The only thing that comes to mind is the input.device thats supplied with Poseidon that is derived from MorphOS. I dont know whats happening for you. What you could try is moving everything out of SYS:Classes/USB/ except for: bootkeyboard.class bootmouse.class hid.class masstorage.class hub.class and see what happens :-)

08 October 2016, 01:02	#8
Locutus Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Finland Posts: 1,176	then i'm puzzled. What version of Poseidon are you using? What you could try is to grab the Poseidon 4.5 archive, its meant for the RapidRoad but okay. Its the last released one. Then just put the .device for the Subway in DEVS:USBHardware/ and change the AddUSBHardware command accordingly. http://wiki.icomp.de/w/images/4/40/PoseidonV4.lha

08 October 2016, 01:03	#9
FOL PSPUAE DEV Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wales / UK Age: 45 Posts: 5,999	What does trident say. You will need MUI to run trident and also a higher screenmode.

08 October 2016, 01:29	#11
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,408	Mind you, I have tried other drives, they are all 4GB or less and I can see all of them just fine if I use my previous hard disk.

08 October 2016, 02:04	#12
Locutus Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Finland Posts: 1,176	exactly what is on the USB stick? if its PC formatted it wont show up straight away.

08 October 2016, 10:16	#13
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,408	It is indeed PC formatted. And it does show up right away in my other setup.

08 October 2016, 10:46	#14
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 6,985	L:FAT95 missing?

08 October 2016, 13:02	#15
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,408	Hallelujah! That was it. Thank you so much!

08 October 2016, 13:57	#16
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,408	OK now what fresh hell is this?? I copied my files from my PC to the USB drive, thinking my troubles were over, and when I turned the Amiga on I got this message! If I click on it a few times, Workbench starts but of course the USB drive is nowhere to be found and this time it doesn't show on Trident either. Now every time I turn on the Amiga I get this error message. Trying it without the USB drive in the port makes no difference. I don't know if this helps you understand what is going on, but if I boot with no startup-sequence then I don't get the error message, and I can boot Workbench from there - with limited functionality, of course. I am very close to giving up... I've already spent more hours than I can afford on this.

08 October 2016, 14:29	#17
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,408	Not knowing what else to do, I reinstalled Workbench and now it seems OK. Currently copying my files via USB.

08 October 2016, 17:17	#18
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,408	I'm back, baby! Thanks everyone for your help.

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