Atari ST to Amiga: Starquake Amiga Conversion - Page 7

Galahad/FLT · 28 October 2015, 00:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by saimon69

@Galahad/FLT

Have a first basic test for in-game music, want me to post it in the zone?

Of course

saimon69 · 28 October 2015, 21:15

ok is in the zone as starquake_ingame_2v_0131.zip

Predseda · 28 October 2015, 21:22

Sounds very ZX Spectrish.

tomcat666 · 28 October 2015, 21:29

Is this 1 voice only? And I have heard much better stuff on ZX spectrum than this

Not sure, maybe winamp doesn't replay this right or something ...

Predseda · 28 October 2015, 21:33

Looking at the patterscroll, two voices are used.

saimon69 · 28 October 2015, 21:37

@Predseda
unintentionally, since was trying to get same waveform s the 64 game intro; however considered the game can fit :P Still need to know if is possible to redirect the song according on which teleport the charactrer lands to... but not as subsongs, rather as a cue point approach; i used two voices to have effects at the same time and is more a proof-of-concept (then if in progress i can reach the level of Iveson even better)

adrdesign · 28 October 2015, 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by saimon69

ok is in the zone as starquake_ingame_2v_0131.zip

But... I already did that game music... Gallahad was waiting for some kind of remix... May I have miss something?

Song 1: POS00
Song 2: POS20
Song 3: POS40
Song 4: POS47

Note: This song is closer to the original, note conversion 1:1. BTW: I like your work saimon, keep it on!!

Predseda · 28 October 2015, 21:59

Oh, seems there is a confusion, Galahad could you please lighten it up?

saimon69 · 28 October 2015, 22:00

Well i offered to do something and started on my own hoping to bash competition, however my approach was to have a similar sound to c64 and cue points in the score (read: an unique score in game but according to what teleport you take it gets "bounced" on several positions) - that was my idea i know there is no programming for it, actually hoped to have an answer for feasibility ^^

Predseda · 28 October 2015, 22:14

I would like to hear a nice opening theme, orchestral, mighty, melodic, using all 4 Amiga channels. I do not know how much memory you have left, but both your work sound too humble to me.

saimon69 · 28 October 2015, 22:35

@Predseda
is an in-game, for opening i thought adrdesign covered; plus we are talking of an unexpanded game, that has NO memory allocated for in-game music on the ST version so the lesser the better imo; but if you want something very awesome then would like to have -off canon- this (with no lyrics of course): [ Show youtube player ]

adrdesign · 28 October 2015, 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by saimon69

@Predseda
is an in-game, for opening i thought adrdesign covered; plus we are talking of an unexpanded game, that has NO memory allocated for in-game music on the ST version so the lesser the better imo

lol
It seems we are all a bit confused LOL

AFAIK Gallahad has been asking H0ffman to do that, who was busy ATM...

@Gallahad: may I ask how´s going the Recoil port?

saimon69 · 28 October 2015, 22:54

Yes am confused, i thought this was as in rygar soetihng with no allocated tasks that i can send stuff and cooperate

Predseda · 28 October 2015, 22:57

Still the idea of various subsongs / patterns / jingles for each teleport is very nice.

saimon69 · 29 October 2015, 00:21

@Predseda, yes, just hope is feasible;

personally i would not take the 8-bit feel out of the game: is one of those I did grew up with on spectrum (even tough due to language barrier at the time did not understood what to do) and have music AND effects would make it special; that is why i chose to use chip two voices, also because i have no clue how many voices are used by effects and keep just two busy should keep enough FX around - and also to possibly master two voice extreme tracking 'a la' Iveson/Nuke in Wolfchild, he did a miracolous job there ^^

tomcat666 · 29 October 2015, 12:04

Well, I uploaded OGG (its like MP3) versions of StarQuake tunes done for a never-released remake by Retrospec. Unfortunetly the status will stay this way for a while. It is unusable for the Amiga, I know, but it can give you some idea how it could sound like.

Predseda · 29 October 2015, 19:12

That is exactly what it should be!

saimon69 · 03 November 2015, 02:53

another version in the zone

Despite negative feedback here is the second in-progress of the in-game tune two voices chiptune (good for unexpanded machines) with different tunes according to teleport:
00:00 astra
00:51 hylis
01:32 chasm
02:23 polar
many missing still and more improvements to do

a non-looping (hope to find a way to merge it together) theme for every teleport, based on this Starquake map made on c64 version

Predseda · 07 November 2015, 20:17

I still miss some message from Galahad.

Galahad/FLT · 07 November 2015, 22:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomcat666

Well, I uploaded OGG (its like MP3) versions of StarQuake tunes done for a never-released remake by Retrospec. Unfortunetly the status will stay this way for a while. It is unusable for the Amiga, I know, but it can give you some idea how it could sound like.

Sounds great.

28 October 2015, 21:37	#126
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,519	@Predseda unintentionally, since was trying to get same waveform s the 64 game intro; however considered the game can fit :P Still need to know if is possible to redirect the song according on which teleport the charactrer lands to... but not as subsongs, rather as a cue point approach; i used two voices to have effects at the same time and is more a proof-of-concept (then if in progress i can reach the level of Iveson even better) Last edited by saimon69; 28 October 2015 at 21:44.

28 October 2015, 21:59	#128
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	Oh, seems there is a confusion, Galahad could you please lighten it up? Last edited by Predseda; 28 October 2015 at 22:04.

28 October 2015, 22:35	#131
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,519	@Predseda is an in-game, for opening i thought adrdesign covered; plus we are talking of an unexpanded game, that has NO memory allocated for in-game music on the ST version so the lesser the better imo; but if you want something very awesome then would like to have -off canon- this (with no lyrics of course): [ Show youtube player ] Last edited by saimon69; 28 October 2015 at 22:41.

03 November 2015, 02:53	#138
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,519	another version in the zone Despite negative feedback here is the second in-progress of the in-game tune two voices chiptune (good for unexpanded machines) with different tunes according to teleport: 00:00 astra 00:51 hylis 01:32 chasm 02:23 polar many missing still and more improvements to do a non-looping (hope to find a way to merge it together) theme for every teleport, based on this Starquake map made on c64 version Last edited by saimon69; 05 November 2015 at 21:32.

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28 October 2015, 21:15	#122
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,519	ok is in the zone as starquake_ingame_2v_0131.zip

28 October 2015, 21:22	#123
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	Sounds very ZX Spectrish.

28 October 2015, 21:29	#124
tomcat666 Retro Freak Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Slovenia Age: 51 Posts: 1,647	Is this 1 voice only? And I have heard much better stuff on ZX spectrum than this Not sure, maybe winamp doesn't replay this right or something ...

28 October 2015, 21:33	#125
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	Looking at the patterscroll, two voices are used.

28 October 2015, 22:00	#129
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,519	Well i offered to do something and started on my own hoping to bash competition, however my approach was to have a similar sound to c64 and cue points in the score (read: an unique score in game but according to what teleport you take it gets "bounced" on several positions) - that was my idea i know there is no programming for it, actually hoped to have an answer for feasibility ^^

28 October 2015, 22:14	#130
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	I would like to hear a nice opening theme, orchestral, mighty, melodic, using all 4 Amiga channels. I do not know how much memory you have left, but both your work sound too humble to me.

28 October 2015, 22:54	#133
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,519	Yes am confused, i thought this was as in rygar soetihng with no allocated tasks that i can send stuff and cooperate

28 October 2015, 22:57	#134
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	Still the idea of various subsongs / patterns / jingles for each teleport is very nice.

29 October 2015, 00:21	#135
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,519	@Predseda, yes, just hope is feasible; personally i would not take the 8-bit feel out of the game: is one of those I did grew up with on spectrum (even tough due to language barrier at the time did not understood what to do) and have music AND effects would make it special; that is why i chose to use chip two voices, also because i have no clue how many voices are used by effects and keep just two busy should keep enough FX around - and also to possibly master two voice extreme tracking 'a la' Iveson/Nuke in Wolfchild, he did a miracolous job there ^^

29 October 2015, 12:04	#136
tomcat666 Retro Freak Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Slovenia Age: 51 Posts: 1,647	Well, I uploaded OGG (its like MP3) versions of StarQuake tunes done for a never-released remake by Retrospec. Unfortunetly the status will stay this way for a while. It is unusable for the Amiga, I know, but it can give you some idea how it could sound like.

29 October 2015, 19:12	#137
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	That is exactly what it should be!

07 November 2015, 20:17	#139
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	I still miss some message from Galahad.

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