Kickstart & Workbench 27.5, and Metacomco's ABasiC

[mark_k]

Hi,

[Edit: sorry, this post should have gone in req.Apps...]

First of all:

Metacomco's ABasiC came with the first Amiga 1000s. I have version 1.00, and a few years ago figured out how to patch it to work on Kickstart 2.0 and later (patch is on Aminet). Was a later version of ABasiC ever released?

Also a few years ago, I posted the info below to a mailing list, but (as far as I can remember) never did manage to get hold of any of these disks. If anyone can help, that would be great!

Kickstart 27.5 and early Amiga demos
Many years ago, I received a catalogue disk from an American company called Chiron Conceptions Public Domain, who used to advertise in Amiga World magazine.

Listed there were some very early Amiga demos, used for the Amiga launch in 1985. They require a pre-1.0 Kickstart, version 27.5, to work. I would really like to get hold of any of these demos and Kickstart 27.5. Below is the listing from the PD catalogue.

VERSION 27.5 DEMO DISKS

CC-001 --VERSION 27.5 KICKSTART

Prerelease version of Amiga Kickstart. Needed for some
disks. (NOTE: Will not work on the Amiga 500 or 2000).


CC-002 --AMIGA SHOW STOPPER PAK

Includes two of the demos shown at the Amiga debut at Lincoln Center:
Eagle Demo
Watch the eagle as it swoops over the digitized
mountain range. Listen to it's screams as it glides across your
screen! An endless loop demo.
Ballet Stills
A series of superb digitized graphic stills of a ballerina.
(NOTE:Requires Version 27.5 Kickstart (CC-001) and thus will
not run on the Amiga 500 or 2000).


CC-003 --ISLAND GRAPHICS DEMO SET

A two disk set of graphics pictures and animations
demonstrating the Amiga. Very nicely done.
(Requires external disk drive & Version 27.5 Kickstart-(CC-001)
and thus will not run on the Amiga 500 or 2000).


CC-004 --ELECTRONIC ARTS GRAPHICS DEMO

A two disk set demonstrating Amiga's music, graphic,
and voice abilities. Includes digitized voice, scenes from EA's
Amiga software, music, and digitized photos.(NOTE: Requires 2
drives, 512K, and Version 27.5 KickStart (CC-001) and thus will
not run on the Amiga 500 or 2000).


Regards,
-- Mark

[T_hairy_bootson]

I cant help with the demo disks but you probably shouldn't be asking about the kickstart here as its against the forums rules to ask for kickstart files.

Hopefully someone has these demos as I too would like to see them.

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by mark_k

CC-004 --ELECTRONIC ARTS GRAPHICS DEMO

A two disk set demonstrating Amiga's music, graphic,
and voice abilities. Includes digitized voice, scenes from EA's
Amiga software, music, and digitized photos.(NOTE: Requires 2
drives, 512K, and Version 27.5 KickStart (CC-001) and thus will
not run on the Amiga 500 or 2000).

I'm sure it's not the same thing considering it's only 1 disk etc. but in The Zone! anyway:

... Electronic Arts Demonstration Disk (19xx)(Electronic Arts).zip

[mark_k]

Originally Posted by DamienD

I'm sure it's not the same thing considering it's only 1 disk etc. but in The Zone! anyway:

... Electronic Arts Demonstration Disk (19xx)(Electronic Arts).zip

Cool, thanks I'll take a look at that. I don't think it's one of the ones I mentioned, but a nice bit of history anyway. Files on it are dated 31-Aug-85

Regarding Kickstart 27.5... if that's not allowed to be posted here then okay. But I'd like to know if anyone has it. Hopefully if I ever get hold of the old demo disks that need it, I can patch them to at least work on Kickstart 1.2/1.3.


-- M

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by mark_k

Regarding Kickstart 27.5... if that's not allowed to be posted here then okay. But I'd like to know if anyone has it.

I think the Kickstart you've referred to is actually this as I haven't seen a 27.5:

... Kickstart v0.7 r27.3 (1985)(Commodore)(A1000)(NTSC)(beta).zip

Unfortunately as you're aware I cannot upload it though.

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by DamienD

... Kickstart v0.7 r27.3 (1985)(Commodore)(A1000)(NTSC)(beta).zip

And which is actually 27.6

00000000h: 11 11 4E F9 00 FC 00 EE 00 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF ; ..Nù.ü.î..ÿÿÿÿÿÿ
00000010h: 00 1B 00 06 FF FF FF FF 0D 0A 0A 41 4D 49 47 41 ; ....ÿÿÿÿ...AMIGA
00000020h: 20 52 4F 4D 20 4F 70 65 72 61 74 69 6E 67 20 53 ;  ROM Operating S

<snip>

00000080h: 76 65 64 2E 0D 0A 00 00 65 78 65 63 20 56 65 72 ; ved.....exec Ver
00000090h: 73 69 6F 6E 20 32 37 20 28 72 65 76 20 36 29 20 ; sion 27 (rev 6) 
000000a0h: 28 54 75 65 20 4A 75 6E 20 32 35 20 31 36 3A 31 ; (Tue Jun 25 16:1
000000b0h: 30 3A 33 39 20 50 44 54 20 31 39 38 35 29 0D 0A ; 0:39 PDT 1985)..

ADDED: Perhaps this confused someone?

00020080h: 00 FE 00 BC 64 6F 73 20 56 65 72 73 69 6F 6E 20 ; .þ.¼dos Version 
00020090h: 32 37 20 28 72 65 6C 20 33 29 20 28 53 75 6E 20 ; 27 (rel 3) (Sun 
000200a0h: 4A 75 6E 20 33 30 20 31 38 3A 33 39 3A 34 38 20 ; Jun 30 18:39:48 
000200b0h: 50 44 54 20 31 39 38 35 29 0A 00 00 2C 78 00 04 ; PDT 1985)...,x..

[DamienD]

Interesting, thanks for the info Toni

[Crashdisk]

or so the confusion comes from here
http://cloanto.com/amiga/roms/
CRC-32 : $428A9A4B

EDIT:
Are we sure this is the right method?

Kickstart v1.2 r33.166 (1986)(Commodore)(A1000)

00000000h: 11 11 4E F9 00 FC 00 D2 00 00 FF FF 00 21 00 A6 ; ..Nù.ü.Ò..ÿÿ.!.¦
00000010h: 00 21 00 BD FF FF FF FF 65 78 65 63 20 33 33 2E ; .!.½ÿÿÿÿexec 33.
00000020h: 31 38 39 20 28 33 30 20 53 65 70 20 31 39 38 36 ; 189 (30 Sep 1986

00 21 00 A6 => r33.166 (Kickstart?)
00 21 00 BD => r33.189 (exec?)