Reading adf's from floppydrive in WinUAE

[LesterChaykin]

I just bought 300 used 1.44Mb disks for 100DKK, thats around 20$. So, the waste of space is no biggie for me

And I like inventing funny shortcuts to fit my visions hee hee!

[TCD]

Originally Posted by LesterChaykin

It is possible, as far as I was just told, to format amiga floppy disks on a PC to use as a regular PC floppy disk.

Yes, as 720 KB disks like cosmicfrog said. Look LesterChaykin, even if your initial request doesn't make much sense, this is complete nonsense.

Edit : Good you got 1.44 MB disks instead (not much, but still ).

[LesterChaykin]

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

amiga will only read 720k pc fromated disks

I am not talking about running anything on an amiga, but to run 720k (or isn't it 880k?) disks, formatted to PC, on my PC with WinUAE.

[LesterChaykin]

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Yes, as 720 KB disks like cosmicfrog said. Look LesterChaykin, even if your initial request doesn't make much sense, this is complete nonsense.

But I assume that the .adf files is only as large as they were on the original disks? Hence no problem on fitting them on there after the PC format.


And your comments about me being nonsensical is ignored

I just want to know an easy way to execute adf files from the floppy drive instead of the harddrive. (that being without selecting the adf file from the destination when inserting a disk)

[seuden]

Basically you're trying to emulate the Amiga further by using floppy disks. I think that's a fair point, waste of time but.......whatever.

[antonvaltaz]

Originally Posted by LesterChaykin

But I assume that the .adf files is only as large as they were on the original disks? Hence no problem on fitting them on there after the PC format.

The problem is that Amiga floppy disks (and hence .adf files) are 880k, so won't fit on a PC floppy formatted to 720k.

[LesterChaykin]

Originally Posted by antonvaltaz

The problem is that Amiga floppy disks (and hence .adf files) are 880k, so won't fit on a PC floppy formatted to 720k.

Okay. Now I get it. Damn. Yeah, that's not good...

[TCD]

Originally Posted by LesterChaykin

Okay. Now I get it. Damn. Yeah, that's not good...

That's why I said it's nonsense. Just use 1.44 MB disks and skip all that 'closer to Amiga' nonsense. It's a PC and you're using an emulator. Get over it.

[LesterChaykin]

Okay this may seem far out but...

I intend on buying these original disks anyways so..
Is there an easy way to transfer a floppy disk cover, or rather the intestines, from one disk to another?
So I keep the original floppy cover but with the 1.44mb disk space..

Sorry for being so non-sensical! I admit that I am taking quite a de-route to keep this emulation station going. But I will not surrender!

[TCD]

So you're destroying original Amiga disks for the sake of a 'fake' PC emulation disk? Not sure many of us will support you on your way...

[antonvaltaz]

Right, Amigas use 'DD' (double density) disks, which are 1MB unformatted, 880k when formatted for an Amiga, 720k when formatted for a PC.

PCs can use 'DD' or 'HD' disks, which are 2MB unformatted, 1.44MB when formatted for PC.

All original Amiga game disks will therefore be DD. So if you format them for a PC, you will only be left with 720k. Hence you can't copy an ADF file onto them.

[LesterChaykin]

Okay, it's possible with some games I figured. FI Stunt Car Racer is ~250kb so it'll fit.

[seuden]

This thread needs locking. :P

[antonvaltaz]

But the .adf file is an image of the whole disk, so it will still be 880k, even if there was only 250k of data on the original disk (I think - someone correct me if I am wrong).

[LesterChaykin]

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

So you're destroying original Amiga disks for the sake of a 'fake' PC emulation disk? Not sure many of us will support you on your way...

I know, it might not be that polite to all the true connoisseurs out there.
But if there was an easy, non-harmful way of taking apart one disk and replacing the insides from a 1.44mb disk inside of it, it would be great.

For that specific mission, I might look around the net for some techniques.


As stated further above, this is strictly done so I can have this single emulation computer with a space-saving setup and a lot of different consoles installed on it.

[TCD]

Originally Posted by LesterChaykin

Okay, it's possible with some games I figured. FI Stunt Car Racer is ~250kb so it'll fit.

Originally Posted by antonvaltaz

(I think - someone correct me if I am wrong).

He means the zip of the ADF alton... That way you would have to use 'disk.zip' instead of 'disk.adf' of course

[LesterChaykin]

Originally Posted by antonvaltaz

But the .adf file is an image of the whole disk, so it will still be 880k, even if there was only 250k of data on the original disk (I think - someone correct me if I am wrong).

No no, I am not unpacking the adf to simulate a "complete amiga disk" or whatever - I am merely placing the adf file on the PC floppy disk to run it from UAE.

[killergorilla]

Can I just ask how you are plugging Megadrive and N64 cartridges in?

[LesterChaykin]

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

He means the zip of the ADF alton... That way you would have to use 'disk.zip' instead of 'disk.adf' of course

No I am talking about the .adf file. It will fit on a 1.44mb disk and on a 720kb disk, if the .adf file is below that filesize.

[TCD]

Originally Posted by LesterChaykin

No I am talking about the .adf file. It will fit on a 1.44mb disk and on a 720kb disk, if the .adf file is below that filesize.

If the ADF isn't an underdump (or overdump) they are always 880 KB. I pray you're only trolling btw