Xenex - trainer not working...

DamienD · 22 August 2017, 21:46

Heya guys,

Been playing this game using this disk: Xenex (1994-10)(Scorpius)(PD)[h SCX][t +3 INS].adf

The game need 2MB Chip to run, but no matter what configuration I use the trainer doesn't work...

Anyone had any success or is it a dud trainer?

s2325 · 22 August 2017, 21:55

Any hints in scroll?

DamienD · 22 August 2017, 23:43

Nah, but why would there be?

It's a simple on / off trainer yet none of the options actually work in game no matter what configuration I set

...just noticed that my friend Belgarath uses the same .ADF in GameBase Amiga. Wonder if he actually managed to get the trainer working somehow?

DamienD · 23 August 2017, 09:15

Well, still can't get the trainer to work...

Anyway, I'm not using any of the Scoopex disks now as:

a) these requires 2MB Chip RAM.
b) these doesn't work on anything below KS 2.
c) these screens have been removed from the original:

All these .ADFs run on "512KB Chip & 512KB Slow RAM" and "KS 1.3" plus have all screens:

a) Xenex (1994-10)(Scorpius)(PD).adf
b) Xenex (1994-10)(Scorpius)(PD)[a].adf
c) Xenex (1994-10)(Scorpius)(PD)[h BTTR].adf
d) Xenex (1994-10)(Scorpius)(PD)[h BTTR][a].adf

Asman · 23 August 2017, 10:39

@DamienD
There is WHD version of this game, guess who did it

. Do you really need a trainer for this game ?

DamienD · 23 August 2017, 11:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asman

@DamienD
There is WHD version of this game, guess who did it

.

Good to know but I only really use WHDLoad when:

a) there's no working disks available.
b) something major has been fixed / added that is not in the disk versions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asman

Do you really need a trainer for this game ?

Nah, not really...

Just wondered if anyone had this working, that's all. From my investigations the Scoopex crack and trainer is bad.

ross · 23 August 2017, 13:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Just wondered if anyone had this working, that's all. From my investigations the Scoopex crack and trainer is bad.

Hi DamienD, I can make a proper trainer (using the author's ADF, so proper logo).
Wait this evening

Bye,
ross

Asman · 23 August 2017, 13:32

@ross. If you interested I can post in the Zone, my Xenex archive with Resource files. Just give me a sign.

DamienD · 23 August 2017, 14:12

Nice one, cheers Ross (and Asman)

Asman · 23 August 2017, 14:39

@ross. In the Zone. Enjoy. If you have any questions about that then just ask.

respect.

clenched · 23 August 2017, 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Good to know but I only really use WHDLoad when:

a) there's no working disks available.
b) something major has been fixed / added that is not in the disk versions.

Nah, not really...

Just wondered if anyone had this working, that's all. From my investigations the Scoopex crack and trainer is bad.

The trained disk works (1 player tested). Used Kickstart 37.175 1M chip + 1M z2 for memory. The lives initially go from 6 to 5 but don't go lower. Got tired and stopped skipping levels at #55.

DamienD · 23 August 2017, 17:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by clenched

The trained disk works (1 player tested). Used Kickstart 37.175 1M chip + 1M z2 for memory. The lives initially go from 6 to 5 but don't go lower. Got tired and stopped skipping levels at #55.

Ok, thanks clenched

Weird though, I tried most Quickstarts and they didn't work for me... can't test again now, at work.

Closest to what KS / RAM you've specified is "A500+ / 4MB Fast RAM expanded".

Anyway, seems like quite a lot of RAM needed when the original runs fine on "512KB Chip & 512KB Slow RAM" and "KS 1.3".

hipoonios · 23 August 2017, 18:54

Remember I also had problems with the trainer. So contacted the author, Mark Sheeky and asked if this game has an end. I also asked the same question for Liberator, but he could not remember. Liberator has a end screen (see HOL) but you never get it in game (see my video). The only way to see it is by viewing it from Workbench (.iff pic).

He also said Hilt II and Taskforce are the games that he is most proud of and he never received a single registration for any of his games back in the days. Which is sad, because he did some cool games.

Good to hear that the trainer works with the correct configuration. Skipped to level 55?... OK, this game does not seems to have an end

clenched · 23 August 2017, 18:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Anyway, seems like quite a lot of RAM needed when the original runs fine on "512KB Chip & 512KB Slow RAM" and "KS 1.3".

No claim that is minimum, just easier than dealing with fractions of a megabyte.

Version says 37.2 for the type command. So dispense with that in startup-sequence and game loads using 1.3 Kickstart.

ross · 23 August 2017, 21:06

In The Zone

[EDIT: changed "skip level" (see following messages), RMB conflict with player 2 mouse movements.]

ross · 23 August 2017, 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asman

@ross. In the Zone. Enjoy. If you have any questions about that then just ask.

respect.

Thanks Asman!

All the best,
ross

ross · 23 August 2017, 21:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Ok, thanks clenched

Weird though, I tried most Quickstarts and they didn't work for me... can't test again now, at work.

Closest to what KS / RAM you've specified is "A500+ / 4MB Fast RAM expanded".

Anyway, seems like quite a lot of RAM needed when the original runs fine on "512KB Chip & 512KB Slow RAM" and "KS 1.3".

Old trainer works only by chance (expect some initialized register in VBL irq, that can or cannot be..)
I've changed totally approach, adapting myself at the cracktro code.

Tested in various 512kb (or +) chip ram and 512kb (or +) fast and works.
[EDIT: from KS1.2 to KS3.1]

But please test.

Cheers,
ross

DamienD · 23 August 2017, 22:35

Thank you kindly ross

...in the middle of setting up / configuring a bunch of new games to add to my WinUAE collection so probably won't get the chance to test this tonight.

Will definitely tomorrow though.

ross · 24 August 2017, 17:04

A final update in The Zone.
Asman fix included in ADF version.
Changed ingame level skip to DEL key (F1 is too close to esc

), cractro fixed.
Some optimization in code.

Cheers,
ross

DamienD · 24 August 2017, 17:14

Coolio; will check it out tonight when home

...can you elaborate on what the Asman fix is or should I just read the WHDLoad version notes?

22 August 2017, 21:46	#1
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Xenex - trainer not working... Heya guys, Been playing this game using this disk: Xenex (1994-10)(Scorpius)(PD)[h SCX][t +3 INS].adf The game need 2MB Chip to run, but no matter what configuration I use the trainer doesn't work... Anyone had any success or is it a dud trainer?

23 August 2017, 21:06	#15
ross Defendit numerus Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Crossing the Rubicon Age: 53 Posts: 4,480	In The Zone [EDIT: changed "skip level" (see following messages), RMB conflict with player 2 mouse movements.] Last edited by ross; 25 August 2017 at 13:14. Reason: []

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22 August 2017, 21:55	#2
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Any hints in scroll?

22 August 2017, 23:43	#3
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Nah, but why would there be? It's a simple on / off trainer yet none of the options actually work in game no matter what configuration I set ...just noticed that my friend Belgarath uses the same .ADF in GameBase Amiga. Wonder if he actually managed to get the trainer working somehow?

23 August 2017, 09:15	#4
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Well, still can't get the trainer to work... Anyway, I'm not using any of the Scoopex disks now as: a) these requires 2MB Chip RAM. b) these doesn't work on anything below KS 2. c) these screens have been removed from the original: All these .ADFs run on "512KB Chip & 512KB Slow RAM" and "KS 1.3" plus have all screens: a) Xenex (1994-10)(Scorpius)(PD).adf b) Xenex (1994-10)(Scorpius)(PD)[a].adf c) Xenex (1994-10)(Scorpius)(PD)[h BTTR].adf d) Xenex (1994-10)(Scorpius)(PD)[h BTTR][a].adf

23 August 2017, 10:39	#5
Asman 68k Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somewhere Posts: 828	@DamienD There is WHD version of this game, guess who did it . Do you really need a trainer for this game ?

23 August 2017, 13:32	#8
Asman 68k Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somewhere Posts: 828	@ross. If you interested I can post in the Zone, my Xenex archive with Resource files. Just give me a sign.

23 August 2017, 14:12	#9
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Nice one, cheers Ross (and Asman)

23 August 2017, 14:39	#10
Asman 68k Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somewhere Posts: 828	@ross. In the Zone. Enjoy. If you have any questions about that then just ask. respect.

23 August 2017, 18:54	#13
hipoonios Amiga Hardcore Gamer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Age: 46 Posts: 1,207	Remember I also had problems with the trainer. So contacted the author, Mark Sheeky and asked if this game has an end. I also asked the same question for Liberator, but he could not remember. Liberator has a end screen (see HOL) but you never get it in game (see my video). The only way to see it is by viewing it from Workbench (.iff pic). He also said Hilt II and Taskforce are the games that he is most proud of and he never received a single registration for any of his games back in the days. Which is sad, because he did some cool games. Good to hear that the trainer works with the correct configuration. Skipped to level 55?... OK, this game does not seems to have an end

23 August 2017, 22:35	#18
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Thank you kindly ross ...in the middle of setting up / configuring a bunch of new games to add to my WinUAE collection so probably won't get the chance to test this tonight. Will definitely tomorrow though.

24 August 2017, 17:04	#19
ross Defendit numerus Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Crossing the Rubicon Age: 53 Posts: 4,480	A final update in The Zone. Asman fix included in ADF version. Changed ingame level skip to DEL key (F1 is too close to esc ), cractro fixed. Some optimization in code. Cheers, ross

24 August 2017, 17:14	#20
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Coolio; will check it out tonight when home ...can you elaborate on what the Asman fix is or should I just read the WHDLoad version notes?

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