A3000 PSU problem

whiteb · 11 January 2003, 08:40

Hi all,

I got a friend that has an A3000 but he sais it has a power problem.

Its an american version (NTSC) and has (had) a 110V supply, he moved here and used a 220-110 converter but now it doesnt work.

He says the converter might have failed and cooked the PSU, could the PSU be substituted with a PC power supply ?

Also should the components (mobo etc) be ok ?

It had something called a Retinaz3 (or close), whats that ?

I am tryint go persuade him to give it to me so I can attempt to fix it, he says its in a shed down south-Western australia. 6 hours drive.

Shadowfire · 13 January 2003, 03:06

1st of all, is it a desktop or a tower? I don't know about the tower model, but as for the desktop, you will NOT be able to find another PSU that fits into the A3000 pizza box, unless you buy another 2nd-hand A3000 PSU.

That said, it is possible to hook a PC PSU up to an A3000, it involves splicing a lot of PSU wires, and moving some jumpers on the motherboard.

Phiber · 13 January 2003, 13:12

If i remember correctly the PSU's in the higher-end amigas use a extraordinary type of PSU's, which generate a so-called "TICK-signal" not present in modern PC-powersupplies, so a PC PSU doesn't work on amigas..

Although i guess it would be possible to build such a TICK-signal generator, but i haven't seen any blueprints or schematics which would describe the chips/circuits needed to make it..

So using a PC supply coupled with the tick-generator board would make changing the dead PSU's a lot easier compared to searching and buying another compu for a whole lotta dosh just because the powersupply died on otherwise perfectly running machine

Severin · 13 January 2003, 13:37

Quote:

Originally posted by Phiber
If i remember correctly the PSU's in the higher-end amigas use a extraordinary type of PSU's, which generate a so-called "TICK-signal" not present in modern PC-powersupplies, so a PC PSU doesn't work on amigas..

Not on A4000's, I've been using a PC AT PSU on mine for 8 years...

Phiber · 13 January 2003, 14:53

Quote:

Originally posted by Severin
Not on A4000's, I've been using a PC AT PSU on mine for 8 years...

Wasn't sure about A4K because i've never owned one

But atleast A2K/A3K PSU's have this "feature"

dunno if the towered A3K has a different PSU as well

AEV · 13 January 2003, 15:56

Hi whiteb, I noticed the Australian company Unitech Electronics has on its website 1 A3000 PSU for sale. Here's the link

http://www.unitechelectronics.com/am....htm#A3000PSU1

I think the retina Z3 you mention was some sort of graphics card.

Shadowfire · 14 January 2003, 04:43

Quote:

Originally posted by Phiber
If i remember correctly the PSU's in the higher-end amigas use a extraordinary type of PSU's, which generate a so-called "TICK-signal" not present in modern PC-powersupplies, so a PC PSU doesn't work on amigas..

thats what the motherboard jumper movements do, they negate the need for the PSU to supply a "tick" signal (the TICK signal gets rerouted to the VBLANK signal)

Quote:

Although i guess it would be possible to build such a TICK-signal generator, but i haven't seen any blueprints or schematics which would describe the chips/circuits needed to make it..

there are some schematics on Aminet, one of which I recall being quite danagerous (feeding directly off of mains power). but no need for it on an A3000.

whiteb · 14 January 2003, 12:21

Quote:

Originally posted by AEV
Hi whiteb, I noticed the Australian company Unitech Electronics has on its website 1 A3000 PSU for sale. Here's the link

http://www.unitechelectronics.com/am....htm#A3000PSU1

I think the retina Z3 you mention was some sort of graphics card.

Yes I noticed that, I have to wait till the dude decides to give the machine to me, he is waiting for the missus to come upto the city from their country property.

Then an outlay for even a second hand PSU is worth it for a A3000.

I was wondering if the PC power supply would at least allow me to see if any of the hardware was faulty from the power supply dying.

As for the case type, I suspect its probably a desktop.

adolescent · 02 February 2003, 19:47

Here's a link that describes the modification of an ATX PC power supply to a desktop A3000. Talks about the tick jumper also. Looks pretty easy to do.

http://www-und.ida.liu.se/~daner964/...scription.html

03 February 2003, 09:18

Vesalia is selling A3000 PSU's. The price is only 29 euros.

11 January 2003, 08:40	#1
whiteb Fanatically Amiga. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Age: 54 Posts: 1,557	A3000 PSU problem Hi all, I got a friend that has an A3000 but he sais it has a power problem. Its an american version (NTSC) and has (had) a 110V supply, he moved here and used a 220-110 converter but now it doesnt work. He says the converter might have failed and cooked the PSU, could the PSU be substituted with a PC power supply ? Also should the components (mobo etc) be ok ? It had something called a Retinaz3 (or close), whats that ? I am tryint go persuade him to give it to me so I can attempt to fix it, he says its in a shed down south-Western australia. 6 hours drive.

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13 January 2003, 03:06	#2
Shadowfire Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Connecticut USA Posts: 617	1st of all, is it a desktop or a tower? I don't know about the tower model, but as for the desktop, you will NOT be able to find another PSU that fits into the A3000 pizza box, unless you buy another 2nd-hand A3000 PSU. That said, it is possible to hook a PC PSU up to an A3000, it involves splicing a lot of PSU wires, and moving some jumpers on the motherboard.

13 January 2003, 13:12	#3
Phiber Hardware Freak Join Date: May 2002 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 50 Posts: 222	If i remember correctly the PSU's in the higher-end amigas use a extraordinary type of PSU's, which generate a so-called "TICK-signal" not present in modern PC-powersupplies, so a PC PSU doesn't work on amigas.. Although i guess it would be possible to build such a TICK-signal generator, but i haven't seen any blueprints or schematics which would describe the chips/circuits needed to make it.. So using a PC supply coupled with the tick-generator board would make changing the dead PSU's a lot easier compared to searching and buying another compu for a whole lotta dosh just because the powersupply died on otherwise perfectly running machine

13 January 2003, 15:56	#6
AEV Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 57	Hi whiteb, I noticed the Australian company Unitech Electronics has on its website 1 A3000 PSU for sale. Here's the link http://www.unitechelectronics.com/am....htm#A3000PSU1 I think the retina Z3 you mention was some sort of graphics card.

02 February 2003, 19:47	#9
adolescent Powered by Motorola Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Age: 52 Posts: 1,065	Here's a link that describes the modification of an ATX PC power supply to a desktop A3000. Talks about the tick jumper also. Looks pretty easy to do. http://www-und.ida.liu.se/~daner964/...scription.html

03 February 2003, 09:18	#10
front243 Posts: n/a	Vesalia is selling A3000 PSU's. The price is only 29 euros.

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