New POWER Amiga details released - Page 2

StrategyGamer · 08 May 2007, 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

As a PCI Express hardware designer I can safely say this is useless (or is a misprint).

It is neither useless nor a misprint. The whole story is in fact a hoax intended to fool gullible Amiga aficianodos and the judge and jury in Bill McEwen's lawsuit.

Ultron · 08 May 2007, 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDNI

“While targeting the needs of today, we wanted to challenge ourselves to design for the future as well.”, said Adam Kowalczyk President of ACK Software Controls, Inc.

President
Vice president
Cleaning lady
CEO
Accountant
Soldering guy
Marketing department
Public relations
Secretary
Guy that lies
Guy that cleans up the lies from the guy that lies
R&D department
& Quality Assurance

What a fella

Jope · 08 May 2007, 16:21

And this ACK fellow can design a board like that, if he couldn't even come up with a slow A1200 CPU board?

No offence, but .. well I guess I did offend mr. ACK now..

Shoonay · 08 May 2007, 16:24

Looks WAY too good to be true... but I guess I'd like to see that Amiga coming out!
Takes only a few more thousands of years, probably - sure, we'll all gonna wait :}

superBuster · 08 May 2007, 17:30

"on schedule and ROCKING!"

P-J · 08 May 2007, 18:30

If these posts are anything to go by, we'll have 10 new Amiga models by this summer!

Mods, could we have a 'vaporware' section?

Asterix · 08 May 2007, 22:36

Well, I dont really care for this at the moment, but I really had to write this

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amiga.com News-Article

Power level product ready for Customers Winter 2007

Even if it was true, thats half a year from now... Not really soon

Quote:

This new system will be offered at a suggested retail price of $ 1498.00 and be a complete offering excluding monitor in a finished design that will provide customers with everything they need to get started.

Everything they need to get started???
It states Mainboard and CPU...

There is not mentioned that it has any memory installed at all. It does not even say what sort of DDR2-Memory (533, 667, 800, ...) it will utilize.
Four EMPTY slots, what a useful computer...

I do not see a graphics card mentioned either. It has a slot for it, but doesn't come with one...
Same goes for the SATA II ports, they are there, but nothing is connected to them

Well, I clearly can NOT see where the "Everything" is in this thing (

) they call Amiga-hardware. (not to mention they didn't say what OS it will have and what softwere it will be able to run. And for me this "Everything" would at least include something to display anything, too, like a monitor or whatever... you can not get started without any means of displaying

)

I think only a lawyer that has never seen computer-hardware before can believe in this kind of joke.

Just on a sidenote: for that amount of money it is actually possible to get quite a good PC which really includes everything you need. And you would at least know what its actually capable of running

Zetr0 · 09 May 2007, 13:36

thier specs sound nothing more than a latent dual core ppc chip based motherboard.

nothing special about them.... other than they are not made in large quantities like x86 boards...

It makes no f*cking sense to keep to this PPC doctrin!!! the technology has been surpased and is overly expensive!!!!!

shit... I tihnk we nee to have a thread to compile a list of say 25 questions and then post them to Billy boy and Fleece-you-mossy to anwser.... you know kinda what a.org tried to do but this time with balls and basebal bats!

Merlin · 09 May 2007, 14:52

WTF.... it doesn't even mention the chipset, is it going to be VIA, SIS, or whatever? Who is going to develop the drivers for this beast of a motherboard?

It all sounds like a white elephant to me, vapourware, what is he trying to do with a name like ACK software controls, does he see this as a serious entry into industrial controls and PLC, or as a hobby/gaming machine?

To me, it's neither.........

Merlin

kfasheldon · 09 May 2007, 19:55

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=27167

Well the CPU sounds hot and flexible, certainly faster than any other Amiga branded computer to date. But wait these news release start a buzz aright and no doubt thats what Bill is aiming for, but I ask why so much negativity here, I know we have all been let down before, things have come and gone, but as of now these computers make it around three systems coming this year, and all look good, as long as the legal mumbo jumbo is trashed and Hyperon team with Amiga Inc in getting the OS out and modifying / upgrading where required then I see no reason they cant be launched and work out OK for all of us.

All we can do is wait and see if Bill can pull of his dream and bring the Amiga back, it will need to launch with the OS, and good ports of major open source software like OpenOffice, Appache, Firefox etc along with a good developmen system encompasing a GUI designer and top class IDE for at least C++ and Java otherwise it will be a nice spec, could look nice I guess but without being ready to use it will just fall by the wayside.

Lets see, Good luck Bill !!

dambuster · 09 May 2007, 20:42

You missed the point - the graphics drivers already exist, thats why theyve included a PCI slot so you can use your voodoo card

ppill · 09 May 2007, 21:20

@kfasheldon
Amiga inc and ACK make these guys look like amatuers:

smoke and mirrors, nothing more...

Merlin · 09 May 2007, 22:04

@ Dambuster

No I didn't, I was talking about the motherboard drivers...he just seems to have made a list of bleeding edge sexy hardware and called it his new baby, he namedrops the CPU, but where's the reference to who makes the main board, or am I missing something here...???

Merlin

Charlie · 11 May 2007, 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by kfasheldon

...wait and see if Bill can pull off... Lets see, Good luck Bill !!

I suspect Bill & Co have had plenty of practice.

Maybe that's why A.inc is such a mess!

@UAE · 13 May 2007, 12:16

do we get same scrolling as the classic.?
Like ( Shadow of the Beast) .

dambuster · 13 May 2007, 22:18

@ merlin, you maybe didnt quite pickup on the sarcasim, im in agreement with you 100%.

ElectroBlaster · 16 May 2007, 17:41

We are Amiga Inc, sir, we are consummate snowball artists. We use sensitive nerve gases and email's to induce hallucinations. People think they're seeing new Amiga's and we conveniently show up with a fake electronic light show.

My 2Cents worth lol

Coagulus · 16 May 2007, 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElectroBlaster

We are Amiga Inc, sir, we are consummate snowball artists. We use sensitive nerve gases and email's to induce hallucinations. People think they're seeing new Amiga's and we conveniently show up with a fake electronic light show.

My 2Cents worth lol

Hmmm, someone's been watching "Ghostbusters" recently eh?

Paul_s · 16 May 2007, 20:53

It's like one of those Grolsch Beer adverts...

It isn't reaaaaaaady yet

21 May 2007, 17:40

The cpu seems real at least.

But I learned long ago, unless the cash is in my hand, don't count it.

Anything new with the Amiga named attached has nothing to do with the Amiga computers everyone holds dear. If we want a modern OS that's Amiga like, then we have to do it our selves. Screw overpriced hardware that no one knows how to program for. I'd rather have a good OS that runs on my x86 hardware, then have to invest anymore in the dead.

Or at least support the people making the homebrew hardware for the Amiga computers, but buying a new computer called an Amiga just isn't going to happen, and if it does, it's not going to be anything we want.

I really think if Amiga Inc., or whatever it's called now was really serious about making Amigas again, they would work on making the kick ass OS, not about using some new hardware that's going to cost a fortune. I mean, come on, why didn't they go after the Cell processor? PS3 could be the development system and run the new OS. Instead it's a new, untested chip. It sounds nice, sure, but so did the Prescott's when they came out.

Oh, well, I guess I ranted enough, looks like the rain mellowed down so I can leave. Well, sorry to express my opinions on you, I'm sure most of you see what I'm saying, even if you may not agree with it. I am not against Amiga's at all, I love mine and and working on getting more. But nothing short of a free development system of this new hardware would get me interested in anything based on new hardware.

So please, if I really offended anyone with this post, relax, take a bong hit.
It wasn't intentional. I'm sure if you explain your opinion then we can come to some compromise, like agreeing to disagree. =)

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08 May 2007, 16:21	#23
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	And this ACK fellow can design a board like that, if he couldn't even come up with a slow A1200 CPU board? No offence, but .. well I guess I did offend mr. ACK now..

08 May 2007, 16:24	#24
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,105	Looks WAY too good to be true... but I guess I'd like to see that Amiga coming out! Takes only a few more thousands of years, probably - sure, we'll all gonna wait :}

08 May 2007, 17:30	#25
superBuster superFreak Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: planet earth Age: 51 Posts: 157	"on schedule and ROCKING!"

08 May 2007, 18:30	#26
P-J Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Moorpark, California Age: 44 Posts: 1,153	If these posts are anything to go by, we'll have 10 new Amiga models by this summer! Mods, could we have a 'vaporware' section?

09 May 2007, 13:36	#28
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	thier specs sound nothing more than a latent dual core ppc chip based motherboard. nothing special about them.... other than they are not made in large quantities like x86 boards... It makes no f*cking sense to keep to this PPC doctrin!!! the technology has been surpased and is overly expensive!!!!! shit... I tihnk we nee to have a thread to compile a list of say 25 questions and then post them to Billy boy and Fleece-you-mossy to anwser.... you know kinda what a.org tried to do but this time with balls and basebal bats!

09 May 2007, 14:52	#29
Merlin AmiBay MegaMod Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Age: 62 Posts: 1,163	WTF.... it doesn't even mention the chipset, is it going to be VIA, SIS, or whatever? Who is going to develop the drivers for this beast of a motherboard? It all sounds like a white elephant to me, vapourware, what is he trying to do with a name like ACK software controls, does he see this as a serious entry into industrial controls and PLC, or as a hobby/gaming machine? To me, it's neither......... Merlin

09 May 2007, 19:55	#30
kfasheldon Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 54	http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=27167 Well the CPU sounds hot and flexible, certainly faster than any other Amiga branded computer to date. But wait these news release start a buzz aright and no doubt thats what Bill is aiming for, but I ask why so much negativity here, I know we have all been let down before, things have come and gone, but as of now these computers make it around three systems coming this year, and all look good, as long as the legal mumbo jumbo is trashed and Hyperon team with Amiga Inc in getting the OS out and modifying / upgrading where required then I see no reason they cant be launched and work out OK for all of us. All we can do is wait and see if Bill can pull of his dream and bring the Amiga back, it will need to launch with the OS, and good ports of major open source software like OpenOffice, Appache, Firefox etc along with a good developmen system encompasing a GUI designer and top class IDE for at least C++ and Java otherwise it will be a nice spec, could look nice I guess but without being ready to use it will just fall by the wayside. Lets see, Good luck Bill !!

09 May 2007, 20:42	#31
dambuster Zone Friend Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dundee / Scotland Posts: 151	You missed the point - the graphics drivers already exist, thats why theyve included a PCI slot so you can use your voodoo card

09 May 2007, 21:20	#32
ppill CON: artist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 1,250	@kfasheldon Amiga inc and ACK make these guys look like amatuers: smoke and mirrors, nothing more...

09 May 2007, 22:04	#33
Merlin AmiBay MegaMod Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Age: 62 Posts: 1,163	@ Dambuster No I didn't, I was talking about the motherboard drivers...he just seems to have made a list of bleeding edge sexy hardware and called it his new baby, he namedrops the CPU, but where's the reference to who makes the main board, or am I missing something here...??? Merlin

13 May 2007, 12:16	#35
@UAE Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dubai UAE Posts: 158	do we get same scrolling as the classic.? Like ( Shadow of the Beast) .

13 May 2007, 22:18	#36
dambuster Zone Friend Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dundee / Scotland Posts: 151	@ merlin, you maybe didnt quite pickup on the sarcasim, im in agreement with you 100%.

16 May 2007, 17:41	#37
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 49 Posts: 1,705	We are Amiga Inc, sir, we are consummate snowball artists. We use sensitive nerve gases and email's to induce hallucinations. People think they're seeing new Amiga's and we conveniently show up with a fake electronic light show. My 2Cents worth lol

16 May 2007, 20:53	#39
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,334	It's like one of those Grolsch Beer adverts... It isn't reaaaaaaady yet

21 May 2007, 17:40	#40
nyder Posts: n/a	The cpu seems real at least. But I learned long ago, unless the cash is in my hand, don't count it. Anything new with the Amiga named attached has nothing to do with the Amiga computers everyone holds dear. If we want a modern OS that's Amiga like, then we have to do it our selves. Screw overpriced hardware that no one knows how to program for. I'd rather have a good OS that runs on my x86 hardware, then have to invest anymore in the dead. Or at least support the people making the homebrew hardware for the Amiga computers, but buying a new computer called an Amiga just isn't going to happen, and if it does, it's not going to be anything we want. I really think if Amiga Inc., or whatever it's called now was really serious about making Amigas again, they would work on making the kick ass OS, not about using some new hardware that's going to cost a fortune. I mean, come on, why didn't they go after the Cell processor? PS3 could be the development system and run the new OS. Instead it's a new, untested chip. It sounds nice, sure, but so did the Prescott's when they came out. Oh, well, I guess I ranted enough, looks like the rain mellowed down so I can leave. Well, sorry to express my opinions on you, I'm sure most of you see what I'm saying, even if you may not agree with it. I am not against Amiga's at all, I love mine and and working on getting more. But nothing short of a free development system of this new hardware would get me interested in anything based on new hardware. So please, if I really offended anyone with this post, relax, take a bong hit. It wasn't intentional. I'm sure if you explain your opinion then we can come to some compromise, like agreeing to disagree. =)

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