GOLD2.10 core released for Vampire V2 - Page 7

nonarkitten · 11 August 2018, 00:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimDrew

Faster, I believe so. Mike has dropped the FPGA based CPU core idea for Replay 2. It is a hybrid now - using a readily available (upgradeable), high speed, multi-core CPU module to handle CPU core emulations, and a larger FPGA to do just the chipset emulations. <snip>

Jim, the Raspberry Pi CM3 is not high-speed nor even slightly comparable to even a mid-range Core i5 or i7. It is, at best, able to produce a SysInfo score a little better than the Vampire (integer only, it fails rather horribly in FPU). But this does not account for JIT-lag. JIT-lag makes the whole UAE experience feel quite sluggish, despite what the benchmarks might indicate. And without JIT, it runs at least an order of magnitude slower, making it virtually useless unless all you want is a new A1200.

JimDrew · 11 August 2018, 07:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by nonarkitten

Jim, the Raspberry Pi CM3 is not high-speed nor even slightly comparable to even a mid-range Core i5 or i7

Yeah, I am glad that idea was scrapped early on.

KONEY · 20 August 2018, 00:01

Today I flashed this new core and updated SAGA drivers. The procedure went OK but afterwards the system has become very unstable. Basically it would boot normally, work a few minutes then start hanging, mostly during long disk access. This is always ending with a guru, a reboot, a shorter working time then again guru reboot etc. until it freezes completely without booting at all. Switching it off and waiting for some 10 minutes before re-powering will lead again to the begin of the loop.

I never paid too much attention at heat before but I'm pretty sure it's hotter than usual.

It's a Vampire v2 in a A600. Not using HDMI al all.

Any suggesion?

sean_sk · 20 August 2018, 01:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by KONEY

Today I flashed this new core and updated SAGA drivers. The procedure went OK but afterwards the system has become very unstable. Basically it would boot normally, work a few minutes then start hanging, mostly during long disk access. This is always ending with a guru, a reboot, a shorter working time then again guru reboot etc. until it freezes completely without booting at all. Switching it off and waiting for some 10 minutes before re-powering will lead again to the begin of the loop.

I never paid too much attention at heat before but I'm pretty sure it's hotter than usual.

It's a Vampire v2 in a A600. Not using HDMI al all.

Any suggesion?

You could try adding a self adhesive passive heat sink on top of the FPGA.

You may also need to do the recommended capacitor mod to fix your issue. The video on it can be found here:

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Add two electrolytic 22uF 10v capacitors (observe the polarity), one at C3 and one at C6.

KONEY · 20 August 2018, 01:16

ok, thanks! I didn't know there was such a mod.

However, is it possible that the problem started with the new core?

sean_sk · 20 August 2018, 05:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by KONEY

ok, thanks! I didn't know there was such a mod.

However, is it possible that the problem started with the new core?

From Gold 2.7 onwards I believe the FPGA is pushed a bit harder and some weaker FPGA's may require the capacitor mod in order to cope. The problem was that the capacitors used at C3 and C6 weren't high enough values and so the fix has become pretty much mandatory for some. This was fixed in Majsta's Vampire 600 V2.1.

With each successive core release things get a bit faster so it becomes more and more apparent that the capacitor fix is necessary.

Kitch · 20 August 2018, 06:22

Do the "Black edition" Vampires require the capacitor mod as well?

grond · 20 August 2018, 08:43

"Black Editions" should require it less than normal ones. However, the fix is recommended for all kipper2k and early majsta cards.

KONEY · 20 August 2018, 10:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean_skroht

From Gold 2.7 onwards I believe the FPGA is pushed a bit harder and some weaker FPGA's may require the capacitor mod in order to cope.

Thanks. Digging thru youtube comments I found this link http://forum.apollo-accelerators.com...php?f=9&t=1867 which pretty much summarizes it.

I wish there were more warnings about installing newer cores in early boards because at this point it will take time for me to have the mod done and in the meantime I cannot roll-back to a previous version since flashing takes some two minutes and I cannot trust the system to be stable long enough to finish without crashing and bricking the Vampire... so no Vampire for me for a long time

grond · 20 August 2018, 11:25

You need a 5€ USB blaster to flash an older core. This works even when the Vampire is bricked.

KONEY · 20 August 2018, 14:10

Ok, I think any Vampire owner should grab one of these sooner or later. Thanks

KONEY · 23 August 2018, 19:19

I managed to get the caps mod done superfast and it works! There is surely a massive improvement but I still cannot say the system is stable and reliable. There are still graphic glitches when clicking WB icons and sometimes everything just freezes.

So if there are not anymore suggestion I think I'll have to roll-back to core 2.8

kolla · 23 August 2018, 22:46

Try some other core, there are x10, x11, x12... which works best with what system is anyone's guess, sometimes you just have to try.

KONEY · 24 August 2018, 13:27

Thanks, can you link me to these other cores? here I can find only cores up to 10: http://wiki.apollo-accelerators.com/...t#latest_cores

sean_sk · 24 August 2018, 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by KONEY

Thanks, can you link me to these other cores? here I can find only cores up to 10: http://wiki.apollo-accelerators.com/...t#latest_cores

Hi Koney,
What Kolla means is that each core version comes in various speeds, ie: x10 speed, x11 and x12. It would be best to try x10 if you’re having system instability. x11 is considered the default speed with x12 being only for those FPGA’s strong enough to be pushed faster.

demolition · 24 August 2018, 18:52

On that link, Gold 2.10 is only available in x11 (exe/jic) and x12 (jic only) though. For some reason they did not make a x10 version of this core so you could try gold 2.9 x10 core. The changes from 2.9 to 2.10 are minor for most users anyway (unless you have a BW picture with 2.9

).

KONEY · 25 August 2018, 02:57

sorry, I admin my ignorance... I didn't know this thing of speeds. Well it is not very clear, but still my fault

Thanks

kolla · 26 August 2018, 07:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by grond

I doubt very much that any HDMI patents are in force in Bosnia-Herzegovina, majsta's country of residence.

I would have checked.

https://www.epo.org/about-us/foundat...on-states.html

Lord Aga · 26 August 2018, 11:35

Oh, wow, it took you whole 16 days to dig up something against the Apollo team.
You must be getting old!

And what if the Vampires are registered in Serbia (a couple of hours drive)?

Termination of the Agreement
30.9.2010

Would that make you sad?

demolition · 26 August 2018, 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga

And what if the Vampires are registered in Serbia (a couple of hours drive)?

Perhaps he could sell them in Serbia then but what matters is where they are sold to.

24 August 2018, 18:52	#136
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 43 Posts: 4,190	On that link, Gold 2.10 is only available in x11 (exe/jic) and x12 (jic only) though. For some reason they did not make a x10 version of this core so you could try gold 2.9 x10 core. The changes from 2.9 to 2.10 are minor for most users anyway (unless you have a BW picture with 2.9).

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20 August 2018, 00:01	#123
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 666	Today I flashed this new core and updated SAGA drivers. The procedure went OK but afterwards the system has become very unstable. Basically it would boot normally, work a few minutes then start hanging, mostly during long disk access. This is always ending with a guru, a reboot, a shorter working time then again guru reboot etc. until it freezes completely without booting at all. Switching it off and waiting for some 10 minutes before re-powering will lead again to the begin of the loop. I never paid too much attention at heat before but I'm pretty sure it's hotter than usual. It's a Vampire v2 in a A600. Not using HDMI al all. Any suggesion?

20 August 2018, 01:16	#125
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 666	ok, thanks! I didn't know there was such a mod. However, is it possible that the problem started with the new core?

20 August 2018, 06:22	#127
Kitch Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Christchurch / New Zealand Posts: 54	Do the "Black edition" Vampires require the capacitor mod as well?

20 August 2018, 08:43	#128
grond Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Germany Posts: 1,918	"Black Editions" should require it less than normal ones. However, the fix is recommended for all kipper2k and early majsta cards.

20 August 2018, 11:25	#130
grond Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Germany Posts: 1,918	You need a 5€ USB blaster to flash an older core. This works even when the Vampire is bricked.

20 August 2018, 14:10	#131
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 666	Ok, I think any Vampire owner should grab one of these sooner or later. Thanks

23 August 2018, 19:19	#132
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 666	I managed to get the caps mod done superfast and it works! There is surely a massive improvement but I still cannot say the system is stable and reliable. There are still graphic glitches when clicking WB icons and sometimes everything just freezes. So if there are not anymore suggestion I think I'll have to roll-back to core 2.8

23 August 2018, 22:46	#133
kolla Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 1,893	Try some other core, there are x10, x11, x12... which works best with what system is anyone's guess, sometimes you just have to try.

24 August 2018, 13:27	#134
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 666	Thanks, can you link me to these other cores? here I can find only cores up to 10: http://wiki.apollo-accelerators.com/...t#latest_cores

25 August 2018, 02:57	#137
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 666	sorry, I admin my ignorance... I didn't know this thing of speeds. Well it is not very clear, but still my fault Thanks

26 August 2018, 11:35	#139
Lord Aga MI clan prevails Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 1,443	Oh, wow, it took you whole 16 days to dig up something against the Apollo team. You must be getting old! And what if the Vampires are registered in Serbia (a couple of hours drive)? Termination of the Agreement 30.9.2010 Would that make you sad?

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