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Old 04 July 2019, 22:20   #21
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First time to escape from the Goblin Fortress:



161,000

Didn't make the jump from a stone in the river afterwards.
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Old 05 July 2019, 01:57   #22
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470,000 (score 1350)





I think that is the best score possible. I've given some thought to whether it is possible to have the magic weapon and three health potions at the end and it doesn't seem like it can be done.

I thought I could make it happen if you kill the two giants (near the swamp) and then head back and enter the whirlpool. Then you could drop the basic weapon when you pick up the horn, return to karamoon with the magic weapon, horn and two potions, use the horn and pick up the third potion in the castle. It doesn't work because those two giants are amongst the only major enemies in the game that respawn (they reappear after returning to Karamoon, even if you killed them already), and you need the basic weapon to kill them, so you don't have an opportunity to drop it, and therefore must carry it into the castle, leaving room for only two potions.
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Old 05 July 2019, 10:34   #23
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The fact alone that you still have 3 potions available at the end is really impressive.
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Old 06 July 2019, 15:43   #24
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After 1,5 hours of trying eventually I got some kind of lousy score And stupidly I used potion before getting ale, so my score (probably) is:

56,000 (50,000 + 6 x 1000)
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Old 06 July 2019, 16:24   #25
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Not bad, it's a start.
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Old 07 July 2019, 00:37   #26
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After trying several times to reach the ale, I decided to go to the axe instead and reached it with a few tries - this game is very hard. I enjoyed playing it with the cheat however (I also like playing games for the visual and auditive experience only.)
12000 (coins) + 15000 (axe) + 10000 (potion) = 37000
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Old 07 July 2019, 17:42   #27
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260,000

Died against the flying snake that comes out of a tree.
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Old 07 July 2019, 19:14   #28
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Where's the money / score in your screenshot john4p?

...could be anything as there's no proof
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Old 07 July 2019, 19:18   #29
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Good point Damien, even though John has accustomed us to great integrity

Is your post a sign that you are joining this round ?
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Old 07 July 2019, 19:43   #30
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Good point Damien, even though John has accustomed us to great integrity
Just an observation; I'm sure john4p isn't lying about his score

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Is your post a sign that you are joining this round ?
Nope, no time to play games ATM... but as you know, part of my role on EAB requires me to read all threads, so came across his post / screenshot...

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Where's the money / score in your screenshot john4p?

...could be anything as there's no proof
Coins were 0 at this point because I paid the snail to return to Karamoon. But the score might be necessary as tie-breaker if someone shows the same items and health. Well, in that case he'll beat me if he shows any score.
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Old 08 July 2019, 00:58   #32
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I will share a tip regarding "SotB II"

Not to far from the beginning of the game there is a guy pushing a big rock full of spikes.
Of course this guy has to be killed and the little weapon we have, pull just far enough to be tickled by the spikes.
So even if we are in a compo, for the ones that were not as crazy of SotB as I was BiT, and that did not try the "how much shots do I need to kill him ?", here is the solution : only 6 shots !

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Enjoy
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Old 08 July 2019, 07:11   #33
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Thanks malko, I wanted to create a gif but that's perfect.

When you've hit him five times and are still far from the edge further hits won't do anything. So just run to the egde and wait for him to do the final sixth strike.

edit: Added your pics on Lemon (maybe now we'll finally get a Lemon score) and here to the first post.

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Old 08 July 2019, 22:11   #34
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This is the most important Amiga gaming feat I ever wanted to accomplish:

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450,000

Again forgot to press S so if anyone also beats the game and shows any in-game score he'll beat this.
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Well done mate
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By the way, I came across something annoying.
While playing on my netbook, the 'dog' is always with me so it's quite impossible to pull the switch without dying.
Thus I found another solution.
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Just hope I won't get stuck in another part of the game because I didn't use the key here. Let's see
By the way, I have seen that using the key does not change the score so...
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Excellent playthrough John, well done. I remember it wasn't that long ago I thought I'd never be able to complete these two games, but the comp has proved how beatable they actually are.

There are parts of this you are very good at, I almost always lose health at the blockpusher but you made it look easy, and the dog pit is very difficult to do without losing health (although after two decades I finally worked out my own method for doing it this week).

I'll post my own video later in the week, and maybe this round will end up being a battle for first place after all

Incidently I discovered a glitch-bug today that allows you to collect endless money and complete the game without doing the entire dog pit/Ishran section of the game. I obviously won't use it but it is surprising what can happen when you push a game to it's limits.
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Excellent playthrough John, well done. I remember it wasn't that long ago I thought I'd never be able to complete these two games, but the comp has proved how beatable they actually are.
Yeah with some dedication both indeed are very beatable.

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There are parts of this you are very good at, I almost always lose health at the blockpusher but you made it look easy
After 50+ retries you start to get a feel for this.
You can hit him from further away than one would think.

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and the dog pit is very difficult to do without losing health
That was luck. I often still lose a lot of health or die there when the dog decides to run after all.

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although after two decades I finally worked out my own method for doing it this week
Is it the same method malko found?

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I'll post my own video later in the week, and maybe this round will end up being a battle for first place after all
Looking forward to this.

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Incidently I discovered a glitch-bug today that allows you to collect endless money and complete the game without doing the entire dog pit/Ishran section of the game. I obviously won't use it but it is surprising what can happen when you push a game to it's limits.
Interesting, wonder how this works.

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By the way, I came across something annoying.
While playing on my netbook, the 'dog' is always with me so it's quite impossible to pull the switch without dying.
Thus I found another solution.
See attachment.
Just hope I won't get stuck in another part of the game because I didn't use the key here. Let's see
By the way, I have seen that using the key does not change the score so...
Really nice! Don't think the developers intended this but capehorn also told me about this possibility which is why we made keys worthless (so you can't carry the wooden key to the end).
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Old 12 July 2019, 00:28   #39
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470'000 (250'000 + 200'000 + 10'000 + 10'000)
Looks like capehorn has a slightly better health than I have... grrrr
Regarding the score, I prefer a high one than the opposite

By the way, the dog pit can be completed with the second method (you are not stuck if you don't use the key).
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Yeah with some dedication both indeed are very beatable. [...]
For me the last challenge in SotB II are the two giants throwing their axes. After them finishing the game without being touched a single time is not difficult.

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[...] Incidently I discovered a glitch-bug today that allows you to collect endless money and complete the game without doing the entire dog pit/Ishran section of the game. I obviously won't use it but it is surprising what can happen when you push a game to it's limits.
Interesting as the prisoner in Ishran give you the password to Barloom's domain.
Waiting you to share your tip
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