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Old 11 July 2019, 19:00   #1
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AmigaOS 3.1.x v 3.9

What are the main pros and cons of 3.1.x (the new ones) and 3.9 on an A1200 and running emulation?
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Old 11 July 2019, 23:08   #2
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3.9 completely updated many parts of the OS, including adding large hard drive support, greatly improved Workbench, updated printing subsystem, new GUI engine and prefs to go with it, new icon system, improved datatypes system, new Shell and plenty of other under-the-hood things. It also added a lot of extra features through additional tools, e.g. Amidock, various media players, PPC plugins, TCP stack etc. It was software-only however, so the new ROM modules needed to be loaded from hard drive and the machine rebooted to actually run them.

3.1.4 is an update of 3.1, but many of the core components are actually based on the 3.9 improved parts, with some less significant fixes and improvements on the 3.9 versions. Crucially, 3.1.4 bakes some key new parts into a ROM, so the load-and-reboot step of 3.9 can be avoided in most cases. This is especially useful for large hard drive support as it allows access to the entire drive from cold. It doesn't, however, include many of the extras that 3.9 had - the dock, the extra utilities, the ReAction GUI engine, the TCP stack, the asynchronous Workbench, the hotkey editor...

So both have a lot in common, but come from different standpoints. 3.1.4 is closer in feel to 3.1, but carries over many of the internal features that made 3.9 such an improvement.
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Old 12 July 2019, 21:35   #3
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Thanks for the great explanation! Is it still possible to buy AmigaOS 3.9? Sadly it's out of stock on the links I found.
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Old 12 July 2019, 21:51   #4
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Unfortunately not, sorry man.
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Old 12 July 2019, 22:41   #5
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Calm down, and take a step back, please. This has nothing to do with "modern" or "not". It has something to do with "available resources". CBM was not a mega-corp, but it had at least a development department, and a hand full of full-time software developers in house.

All that was available for 3.9 and 3.1.4 as well is a small set of hobby enthusiasts that can work at best a one-digit number of hours per week on such a project.
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Even if you wrote you plan to use it under emulation, AOS 3.9 will lead the speed of your Amiga in the abyssal depths of slowness.
Go better the 3.1.4.1 road
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It is malko but the slowness is only in the system start-up, for the reasons we know. Once the OS 3.9 system is loaded on an Emulator it becomes very fast, structurally much more advanced and functional than OS 3.1.4.
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Most of 3.9's noticable improvements are in the GUI/Workbench area. If you plan to use the system mostly for gaming, forget about 3.9 and get a decent game launcher and filemanager instead - the main drawback will be lack of support for bigger drives, but you will not need more than 2 GB of space anyway.

If you do have a slightly better CPU and want to have a pretty Workbench, use 3.9 or 3.1.4. The more colorful icons eat up more CPU ressources, and once you start prettyfying the whole thing, you'll want to add more patches and stuff which eats up even more CPU cycles.
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It is malko but the slowness is only in the system start-up, for the reasons we know. Once the OS 3.9 system is loaded on an Emulator it becomes very fast, structurally much more advanced and functional than OS 3.1.4.
I think some people are getting Aros and OS3.9 mixed up, I ran 3.9 for years and it was faster than other Distros with loads of patches etc.
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Yes, I had OS 3.9 on my AMiGA 4000/060 and it was very fast, no problem to start any Application or Game in both PAL and RTG. Attached is a video showing my authentic OS 3.9 of my A4000 from many years ago.

OS 3.9 my A4000 (year 2001)

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OS 3.9 my CD32-SX32 (year 2001)

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I was running AOS3.9 on my A1200 with Apollo 040/040, 32MB RAM and a small HD.
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I'm still happily running 3.9 on my 060 based machine. I'd dearly love to get rid of the double-boot as it takes ages and am very tempted by 3.1.4, especially since i have it on my other machine (A1200) but I really can't be arsed with the ball-ache of upgrading the system or even starting again. Especially since the machine has an Okatagon IDE controller which was a pain to get running in the first place with setpatch and probably raises more questions than it's worth in itself
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