Using a high-end Android phone/tablet as replacement for laptop+WinUAE

Photon · 09 March 2013, 23:46

Now, I gave ye olde laptop some love so that it works beautifully as an emergency solution at demoparties. I should really just use that.

But since my phone is 5" and it came with a charger stand, I realized that if there are good enough emulators, I could get a Bluetooth* keyboard and that would be all I'd have to bring.

I tried UAE4Droid, and it has issues with game trackloaders, but that's no problem. It doesn't like kick 3.1, but that's no problem. It doesn't support halfbrite which is a bummer, but it could be acceptable if the rest of the hardware support is accurate.

The clincher is whether there is

1. Bluetooth keyboard support (i.e. read keyboard without filling half the screen with a touch keyboard), and
2. Boot from microSD card (boot diskette is fine).

I just wondered: Is 1 & 2 in the works, or do you know an emulator that already has it?

* prior art and i.p. credited to Harald Blåtand of viking legend.

olesio · 10 March 2013, 13:19

@Photon: if I understand you good, I can recommand you this emulator for Android: http://anddev.at.ua/load/emulators/u...ition/2-1-0-20 - it support AGA, kick 3.1 and harddisk files. Unfortunetly some WHDLoad games like "Superfrog" can exit suddenly after start first level play. Also unfortunetly some two player games like "Pang" or "Mortal Kombat" are unplayable, because when you hit fire button twice, second player is activeted and you control both of them. Also on my Pentagram TAB 8.0 I must set frameskip to one and lower sound quality because my device CPU probable was to weak, to handle sound playing without pauses. But over all this is better emulator than many not working ports or working very slow like some Czech's emulator or avaiable emulator whic only support kick 1.3.

Photon · 10 March 2013, 20:31

Yeah, I saw he posted that in the other thread. Great, I'll try it

It seems to have support for physical controls and harddisks, and comes from the most developed ARM emulator. I may be deluding myself a little bit as to how usable anything but WinUAE is as a backup dev env for my Amiga, either way that's no reason to not have the best emu on it

FOL · 10 March 2013, 22:23

P-UAE is very good. I have been using this for awhile now.

olesio · 11 March 2013, 12:27

@FOL: did you mean this: http://droidpuae.blogspot.com - because I have exacly other opinion about it. Do not run under Android 4.X and Pentagram TAB 8.0. I send my questions and report to author very long time ago, and no reaction. Big minus for that.

lubomyr · 11 March 2013, 19:04

@olesio
You can try my build PUAE 2.3.3
http://anddev.at.ua/load/emulators/p...lator/2-1-0-15
It must works with Android 4.x

CDTV1991 · 01 May 2013, 14:57

I've tried Gnostic's P-UAE, unfortunately I don't understand how it works as there is no user interface for a basic user like myself.

UAE4DROID seems like the most user friendly and seems to be getting better all the time. I'd like to see the mouse control working better as its quite bad now (calibration?). Some way of connecting a USB or bluetooth mouse would be good, ideally connecting a USB or Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard at the same time. Multiple save states would be very useful and an on-screen button to toggle a keyboard rather than clicking through the menu.

If there was such an app as reliable and user friendly as WinUAE for android, running on a tablet, with a real mouse and keyboard then I'd happily pay over £40 for it.

(I also posted this is the other android thread)

FOL · 01 May 2013, 16:50

Gnostics and lubomyr's builds of P-UAE are the way to go. They just need optimisation.
FS was talking about FS-UAE port.

CDTV1991 · 02 May 2013, 14:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

Gnostics and lubomyr's builds of P-UAE are the way to go. They just need optimisation.
FS was talking about FS-UAE port.

Can anyone point me towards a guide that shows how to use these?

lubomyr · 03 May 2013, 13:12

I received new device - Hero H7500+ based on cpu MTK6589 (quad core Cortex A7 1.2Ghz, GPU PowerVR SGX544MP)
When i tested uae4all2, total max cpu load is 25%, used only 1-core (at 100% load) from 4, all other 3-cores not used.
Same problem with all others amiga emulators for android.

CPU Graph - when work Symphonie player pro in uae4all2

Enverex · 03 May 2013, 16:48

Isn't that typical behaviour? It's rare that emulators (especially of older hardware) are multi-threaded, so they'll only use a single processor. If that processor is hitting 100% load then chances are emulation isn't at 100% speed either.

lubomyr · 03 May 2013, 17:51

Probably i'm not right and used 2-cores from 4

but sometimes sound is interrupted

09 March 2013, 23:46	#1
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	Using a high-end Android phone/tablet as replacement for laptop+WinUAE Now, I gave ye olde laptop some love so that it works beautifully as an emergency solution at demoparties. I should really just use that. But since my phone is 5" and it came with a charger stand, I realized that if there are good enough emulators, I could get a Bluetooth* keyboard and that would be all I'd have to bring. I tried UAE4Droid, and it has issues with game trackloaders, but that's no problem. It doesn't like kick 3.1, but that's no problem. It doesn't support halfbrite which is a bummer, but it could be acceptable if the rest of the hardware support is accurate. The clincher is whether there is 1. Bluetooth keyboard support (i.e. read keyboard without filling half the screen with a touch keyboard), and 2. Boot from microSD card (boot diskette is fine). I just wondered: *Is 1 & 2 in the works, or do you know an emulator that already has it?* * prior art and i.p. credited to Harald Blåtand of viking legend.

03 May 2013, 13:12	#10
lubomyr AMIGA EMU DEV Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Lviv, Ukraine Posts: 528	I received new device - Hero H7500+ based on cpu MTK6589 (quad core Cortex A7 1.2Ghz, GPU PowerVR SGX544MP) When i tested uae4all2, total max cpu load is 25%, used only 1-core (at 100% load) from 4, all other 3-cores not used. Same problem with all others amiga emulators for android. CPU Graph - when work Symphonie player pro in uae4all2 Last edited by lubomyr; 03 May 2013 at 13:32.

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10 March 2013, 13:19	#2
olesio Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 337	@Photon: if I understand you good, I can recommand you this emulator for Android: http://anddev.at.ua/load/emulators/u...ition/2-1-0-20 - it support AGA, kick 3.1 and harddisk files. Unfortunetly some WHDLoad games like "Superfrog" can exit suddenly after start first level play. Also unfortunetly some two player games like "Pang" or "Mortal Kombat" are unplayable, because when you hit fire button twice, second player is activeted and you control both of them. Also on my Pentagram TAB 8.0 I must set frameskip to one and lower sound quality because my device CPU probable was to weak, to handle sound playing without pauses. But over all this is better emulator than many not working ports or working very slow like some Czech's emulator or avaiable emulator whic only support kick 1.3.

10 March 2013, 20:31	#3
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	Yeah, I saw he posted that in the other thread. Great, I'll try it It seems to have support for physical controls and harddisks, and comes from the most developed ARM emulator. I may be deluding myself a little bit as to how usable anything but WinUAE is as a backup dev env for my Amiga, either way that's no reason to not have the best emu on it

10 March 2013, 22:23	#4
FOL PSPUAE DEV Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wales / UK Age: 45 Posts: 5,999	P-UAE is very good. I have been using this for awhile now.

11 March 2013, 12:27	#5
olesio Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 337	@FOL: did you mean this: http://droidpuae.blogspot.com - because I have exacly other opinion about it. Do not run under Android 4.X and Pentagram TAB 8.0. I send my questions and report to author very long time ago, and no reaction. Big minus for that.

11 March 2013, 19:04	#6
lubomyr AMIGA EMU DEV Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Lviv, Ukraine Posts: 528	@olesio You can try my build PUAE 2.3.3 http://anddev.at.ua/load/emulators/p...lator/2-1-0-15 It must works with Android 4.x

01 May 2013, 14:57	#7
CDTV1991 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Wales Posts: 279	I've tried Gnostic's P-UAE, unfortunately I don't understand how it works as there is no user interface for a basic user like myself. UAE4DROID seems like the most user friendly and seems to be getting better all the time. I'd like to see the mouse control working better as its quite bad now (calibration?). Some way of connecting a USB or bluetooth mouse would be good, ideally connecting a USB or Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard at the same time. Multiple save states would be very useful and an on-screen button to toggle a keyboard rather than clicking through the menu. If there was such an app as reliable and user friendly as WinUAE for android, running on a tablet, with a real mouse and keyboard then I'd happily pay over £40 for it. (I also posted this is the other android thread)

01 May 2013, 16:50	#8
FOL PSPUAE DEV Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wales / UK Age: 45 Posts: 5,999	Gnostics and lubomyr's builds of P-UAE are the way to go. They just need optimisation. FS was talking about FS-UAE port.

03 May 2013, 16:48	#11
Enverex Fantasy Man! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,353	Isn't that typical behaviour? It's rare that emulators (especially of older hardware) are multi-threaded, so they'll only use a single processor. If that processor is hitting 100% load then chances are emulation isn't at 100% speed either.

03 May 2013, 17:51	#12
lubomyr AMIGA EMU DEV Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Lviv, Ukraine Posts: 528	Probably i'm not right and used 2-cores from 4 but sometimes sound is interrupted

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