IPFs to real floppies ...... when ?

03 January 2009, 17:05

There are some possibilities to build floppies from IPFs now or in the near future ?

TCD · 03 January 2009, 17:07

Have a look here : http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=40959
Currently there is no way to write them back (at least I don't know any).

whiteb · 04 February 2009, 08:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Have a look here : http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=40959
Currently there is no way to write them back (at least I don't know any).

I am bumping this, In that thread, There has been a Youtube video posted, of IPF images, Being written to Floppy, and booted on a REAL amiga. Turrican 2, has (and i quote) VERY DENSE bits.

[ Show youtube player ]

IFW · 04 February 2009, 11:13

So the questions is...?

whiteb · 04 February 2009, 11:58

I am sorry, but was that question aimed at me ?

The OP wanted to know if there was a way to write (Build) floppies from IPF.

pubzombie · 04 February 2009, 13:04

I was browsing the dream17 website the other day and noticed there are IPFs. at the danger of sounding thiick. what r IPFs?
cheers
pz

gklinger · 04 February 2009, 13:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by pubzombie

at the danger of sounding thiick. what r IPFs?

Read this.

whiteb · 04 February 2009, 14:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by pubzombie

I was browsing the dream17 website the other day and noticed there are IPFs. at the danger of sounding thiick. what r IPFs?
cheers
pz

A form of ADF image format that contains a BIT FOR BIT *EXACT* image of the original disk, except in an image file, Including the weird copy protections (Flakey bit, weak bit, Long tracks etc).

A few people said that writing IPF's back to disk was impossible without SERIOUSLY custom hardware, which a guy called Richard Aplin caught wind of, who, as it happens was a programmer back in the Days of Amiga, who also was involved with the original duplication (trace machines).

Well to keep this short and simple, he is using a cheap ($75) ARM Controller development board, hooking up a cheap (Commonly thrown in the rubbish these days) PC floppy drive, and has written custom firmware/software is now able to write IPF images back to disk (See Youtube link above), All open Source. (He was also in some way involved with Xcopy, and he was also the Author of the Cyclone on the Amiga).

IFW · 04 February 2009, 16:08

To answer the question: yes it is certainly possible these days

Amiga1992 · 04 February 2009, 16:34

Ooooh man i need to get a hold of this!
My R-Type 2 disk will get restored

pubzombie · 04 February 2009, 21:58

wow - cheers guys. well you learn something every day
this means I could back up wb? and old originals?

TCD · 04 February 2009, 23:01

Hi PZ,

have a look here : http://www.softpres.org/
This is where the IPF format comes from

Since you have an A1200, you can use their preservation software. So if you have some originals not on their list you should get in touch with them as soon as possible

Slayer · 05 February 2009, 03:09

where can we acquire these IPFs I was never interested in collecting them back in the day but now things are a little different :-D

TCD · 05 February 2009, 08:37

Hi Slayer,

we are not allowed to say where you can get them : http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=eab_rules (scroll down to 'SPS (formerly CAPS) FAQ - DO'S & DONT'S')
But as always : Google is your friend

Slayer · 05 February 2009, 08:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Hi Slayer,

we are not allowed to say where you can get them : http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=eab_rules (scroll down to 'SPS (formerly CAPS) FAQ - DO'S & DONT'S')
But as always : Google is your friend

Ya not supposed to reply to it you're supposed to just PM me... gee LOL

funny how I have spent thousands upon thousands of dollars on Amiga Hardware and Amiga Software over the last 20+ years and still spending thousands what with 3 versions of OS4.x to get and now a SAM. And a majority of people who possess these IPF collections spent bugger all...

I demand justice LOL

IFW · 05 February 2009, 11:11

Hi Slayer,

As one way to justify your spending would be to contribute images of the missing games to the project.
If you are willing to do that please check our games list and do let us know if you have something not found by the search at:
http://www.softpres.org/games

Thanks

Slayer · 05 February 2009, 14:20

Surely Dr Bong had everything distributed down here :-)

I remember I sent a wwarp image to codetapper so he could do the whdload installer to beyond the ice palce... see me have helped the cause! :-D

IFW · 05 February 2009, 15:16

No, you haven't.

Afaik Dr Bong has never contributed anything, and wwarp images are useless for us.
You'll need to dump your disks (if you have any that is not preserved already) using our software.

Slayer · 06 February 2009, 03:50

What's the max configuration for your software? I heard it will run on an 030 A1200 but nothing higher?

and I am shocked at Dr Bong... I thought that Australian was a helpful (get involved chap) pleasant person ;-)

ville9 · 06 February 2009, 07:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer

What's the max configuration for your software? I heard it will run on an 030 A1200 but nothing higher?

I've dumped most of my disks on an A4000T with CyberstormPPC and Chinon FZ-357A. So there's no real "max configuration" excuse, I'm afraid...

03 January 2009, 17:05	#1
Another World Posts: n/a	IPFs to real floppies ...... when ? There are some possibilities to build floppies from IPFs now or in the near future ?

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pubzombie Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: westmids Posts: 900	wow - cheers guys. well you learn something every day this means I could back up wb? and old originals? Last edited by pubzombie; 04 February 2009 at 22:02. Reason: eating my tea - chicken and spinach

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TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,613	Have a look here : http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=40959 Currently there is no way to write them back (at least I don't know any).

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whiteb Fanatically Amiga. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Age: 54 Posts: 1,557	I am sorry, but was that question aimed at me ? The OP wanted to know if there was a way to write (Build) floppies from IPF.

04 February 2009, 13:04	#6
pubzombie Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: westmids Posts: 900	I was browsing the dream17 website the other day and noticed there are IPFs. at the danger of sounding thiick. what r IPFs? cheers pz

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Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Ooooh man i need to get a hold of this! My R-Type 2 disk will get restored

04 February 2009, 23:01	#12
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,613	Hi PZ, have a look here : http://www.softpres.org/ This is where the IPF format comes from Since you have an A1200, you can use their preservation software. So if you have some originals not on their list you should get in touch with them as soon as possible

05 February 2009, 03:09	#13
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	where can we acquire these IPFs I was never interested in collecting them back in the day but now things are a little different :-D

05 February 2009, 08:37	#14
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,613	Hi Slayer, we are not allowed to say where you can get them : http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=eab_rules (scroll down to 'SPS (formerly CAPS) FAQ - DO'S & DONT'S') But as always : Google is your friend

05 February 2009, 11:11	#16
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Hi Slayer, As one way to justify your spending would be to contribute images of the missing games to the project. If you are willing to do that please check our games list and do let us know if you have something not found by the search at: http://www.softpres.org/games Thanks

05 February 2009, 14:20	#17
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	Surely Dr Bong had everything distributed down here :-) I remember I sent a wwarp image to codetapper so he could do the whdload installer to beyond the ice palce... see me have helped the cause! :-D

05 February 2009, 15:16	#18
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	No, you haven't. Afaik Dr Bong has never contributed anything, and wwarp images are useless for us. You'll need to dump your disks (if you have any that is not preserved already) using our software.

06 February 2009, 03:50	#19
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	What's the max configuration for your software? I heard it will run on an 030 A1200 but nothing higher? and I am shocked at Dr Bong... I thought that Australian was a helpful (get involved chap) pleasant person ;-)

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