ClassicWB Xmas Update Preview

Bloodwych · 11 November 2007, 14:11

Well peeps, it's that time of year once again approaching!

I know how annoying it is to have

in your face whilst we're still in November, but if you can't beat them, join them:

Right, now you're in the mood, here is a little preview of the new features in the xmas ClassicWB packs that are currently WIP:

New Install script - option to upgrade all files to Workbench 3.1
Scout added to replace SysInfo in ADV and above versions
Launch Pad added as optional start console, with listers for WHDload demos & games!
AHI now standard in all versions
Picture datatype updated
BlazeWCP added to accelerate chunky writes if supported (default disabled)
ENV-handler added to save memory if enabled (default disabled)
New, better Icon Install program
OpenURL library added
New Copper Daemon effect and its Workbench screenmode limitation removed
Palette usage improved
Many additions and improvements to the LITE version
WBstartup drawer priority control added
Icons drawer attributes set to be "KillNewIcon" friendly

As you can see, quite a substantial update so far. I'm afraid I might not be able to provide an update pack for this release as it would be too time consuming to write the scripts and avoid changing user customizations.

What will probably happen is this will be released as v21F, and the last update pack for v20F users is the u2. If v20F users want future update packs, they'll have to start fresh with v21F. I apologise for the inconvenience, but I just don't have the free time to support update packs once they get too complicated and large - it becomes a nightmare with 4 separate packs to support and avoiding overwriting user settings.

Look on the bright side - I wasn't even going to improve these packs at all a year ago.

adonay · 11 November 2007, 23:16

Interesting indeed i just installed some paches on my classic setup including visualprefs afa etc .. a great base for my amiga computing.. Looking forward to your new updated packs ..

Shoonay · 11 November 2007, 23:35

Yay, a ClassicWB Service Pack 1!

Dexther · 11 November 2007, 23:41

I love you !!!
We Love you in Italy !!

frikilokooo · 11 November 2007, 23:51

Great news!!!

but I am worried because I don't want to lose my games and data when installing new version.

DDNI · 12 November 2007, 00:05

Brilliant Bloodwych! Many thanks!!

Now about that OS3.9 version.....

Bloodwych · 12 November 2007, 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by frikilokooo

Great news!!!

but I am worried because I don't want to lose my games and data when installing new version.

I'm sure you can find a way to keep the data and games - there is no need to reformat the entire partition when installing a new version without an update pack. For instance, you could just copy over certain drawers from the new pack.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDNI

Brilliant Bloodwych! Many thanks!!

Now about that OS3.9 version.....

Such a shame OS3.9 didn't like Scalos 1.2D, or it would have been supported as a full upgrade option just like 3.1 in the standard packs.

The OS3.9 pack is still on hold. It has to be built up from scratch so it's going to be a slow process as I only work on these packs as a hobby in moments of boredom.

AmigaSYS has it's AGA version out now though and I think that supports 3.9.

frikilokooo · 12 November 2007, 10:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

I'm sure you can find a way to keep the data and games - there is no need to reformat the entire partition when installing a new version without an update pack. For instance, you could just copy over certain drawers from the new pack.

It's cool read that,many thanks

02 December 2007, 14:50

Yah! thanks Bloodwych You have exceed yourself in the maintenance to satisfied all User requirements.

Thanks for the Update

Bloodwych · 03 December 2007, 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by k2uphill

Yah! thanks Bloodwych You have exceed yourself in the maintenance to satisfied all User requirements.

Thanks for the Update

Hey no problem.

The update is now released and the preview holds true. It's really starting to feel like

now peeps with my chocky calendar opening its doors; just waiting for the EAB Evil Snowman to appear at the top of the forum.

Retro-Nerd · 03 December 2007, 18:26

Many thanks for this new release. Can you tell me some details about this?

Quote:

Many additions and improvements to the LITE version

Bloodwych · 03 December 2007, 19:12

I'll try Retro-Nerd, although it's hard to remember everything exactly! I avoided adding anything that would make the install too large (like software) or affect memory usage in order to keep to its "lite" theme, but did add some useful features.

Option to upgrade ALL Workbench files to 3.1 if you have the disks
There is a new menu Launch bar like shown in the pics above
Games and Demos can be launched from a popup list box (again like shown above)
Copper Demon backgrounds are now available - See Here
Workbench start manager added to prioritise programs in the WBStartup drawer
Popup Menu redesigned for easier access to files
FullPalette added to lock and control colours
NewIcons can be enabled or disabled (default disabled)
Image2Icon added to create your own Newicons from pictures.
Fblit/FText can be enabled if you have Fastram (default disabled)
Env-Handler can be enabled to save RAM (default disabled)
BlazeWCP can be enabled for fast chunky writes (default disabled)
Multiboot Workbench has changed – more features.

There is probably more, but it’s hard to remember when I’m working between all the different packs and this one doesn’t have Scalos.

Smart Refresh (SmartWB on Aminet) was removed because I found some compatibility issues plus it used up more memory when opening Workbench windows (bad for 2MB users). This might mean some of the window drawing is slightly slower. Also, VirusZ annoyingly kept on thinking it was a virus in memory. You can download it from Aminet and re-install it in the WBStartup drawer if you wish.

I’m about to go and see if a replacement is any better – if it is, I’ll add it as an enable/disable feature.

Retro-Nerd · 03 December 2007, 19:19

Thanks for the detailed answer, Bloodwych. There are some nice improvements and additions, i will try it later.

Bloodwych · 03 December 2007, 19:40

Thanks for using my packs. Yeah, the LITE was due a little overhaul to bring it more in line with the normal packs.

Just tried a replacement for SmartWB, SmartWIN from Aminet. VirusZ still thinks it's a virus in memory. SmartWIN is meant to be a more complete solution than SmartWB, forcing smart refreshes for more than just WB windows, but I'm not going to include it due to the slightly higher mem usage and annoying VirusZ issue.

The FULL and above don't need this patch as Scalos takes care of it.

11 November 2007, 14:11	#1
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	ClassicWB Xmas Update Preview Well peeps, it's that time of year once again approaching! I know how annoying it is to have in your face whilst we're still in November, but if you can't beat them, join them: Right, now you're in the mood, here is a little preview of the new features in the xmas ClassicWB packs that are currently WIP: New Install script - option to upgrade all files to Workbench 3.1 Scout added to replace SysInfo in ADV and above versions Launch Pad added as optional start console, with listers for WHDload demos & games! AHI now standard in all versions Picture datatype updated BlazeWCP added to accelerate chunky writes if supported (default disabled) ENV-handler added to save memory if enabled (default disabled) New, better Icon Install program OpenURL library added New Copper Daemon effect and its Workbench screenmode limitation removed Palette usage improved Many additions and improvements to the LITE version WBstartup drawer priority control added Icons drawer attributes set to be "KillNewIcon" friendly As you can see, quite a substantial update so far. I'm afraid I might not be able to provide an update pack for this release as it would be too time consuming to write the scripts and avoid changing user customizations. What will probably happen is this will be released as v21F, and the last update pack for v20F users is the u2. If v20F users want future update packs, they'll have to start fresh with v21F. I apologise for the inconvenience, but I just don't have the free time to support update packs once they get too complicated and large - it becomes a nightmare with 4 separate packs to support and avoiding overwriting user settings. Look on the bright side - I wasn't even going to improve these packs at all a year ago. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Bloodwych; 11 November 2007 at 14:17.

03 December 2007, 19:12	#12
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	I'll try Retro-Nerd, although it's hard to remember everything exactly! I avoided adding anything that would make the install too large (like software) or affect memory usage in order to keep to its "lite" theme, but did add some useful features. Option to upgrade ALL Workbench files to 3.1 if you have the disks There is a new menu Launch bar like shown in the pics above Games and Demos can be launched from a popup list box (again like shown above) Copper Demon backgrounds are now available - See Here Workbench start manager added to prioritise programs in the WBStartup drawer Popup Menu redesigned for easier access to files FullPalette added to lock and control colours NewIcons can be enabled or disabled (default disabled) Image2Icon added to create your own Newicons from pictures. Fblit/FText can be enabled if you have Fastram (default disabled) Env-Handler can be enabled to save RAM (default disabled) BlazeWCP can be enabled for fast chunky writes (default disabled) Multiboot Workbench has changed – more features. There is probably more, but it’s hard to remember when I’m working between all the different packs and this one doesn’t have Scalos. Smart Refresh (SmartWB on Aminet) was removed because I found some compatibility issues plus it used up more memory when opening Workbench windows (bad for 2MB users). This might mean some of the window drawing is slightly slower. Also, VirusZ annoyingly kept on thinking it was a virus in memory. You can download it from Aminet and re-install it in the WBStartup drawer if you wish. I’m about to go and see if a replacement is any better – if it is, I’ll add it as an enable/disable feature. Last edited by Bloodwych; 03 December 2007 at 19:43.

03 December 2007, 19:40	#14
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Thanks for using my packs. Yeah, the LITE was due a little overhaul to bring it more in line with the normal packs. Just tried a replacement for SmartWB, SmartWIN from Aminet. VirusZ still thinks it's a virus in memory. SmartWIN is meant to be a more complete solution than SmartWB, forcing smart refreshes for more than just WB windows, but I'm not going to include it due to the slightly higher mem usage and annoying VirusZ issue. The FULL and above don't need this patch as Scalos takes care of it. Last edited by Bloodwych; 04 December 2007 at 00:19.

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11 November 2007, 23:16	#2
adonay active amiga 1200 user Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Either Haugesund /Norway or Vaxjø Sweden Posts: 220	Interesting indeed i just installed some paches on my classic setup including visualprefs afa etc .. a great base for my amiga computing.. Looking forward to your new updated packs ..

11 November 2007, 23:35	#3
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,105	Yay, a ClassicWB Service Pack 1!

11 November 2007, 23:41	#4
Dexther Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: italy Age: 46 Posts: 148	I love you !!! We Love you in Italy !!

11 November 2007, 23:51	#5
frikilokooo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mallorca,Spain. Age: 44 Posts: 1,154	Great news!!! but I am worried because I don't want to lose my games and data when installing new version.

12 November 2007, 00:05	#6
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	Brilliant Bloodwych! Many thanks!! Now about that OS3.9 version.....

02 December 2007, 14:50	#9
k2uphill Posts: n/a	Yah! thanks Bloodwych You have exceed yourself in the maintenance to satisfied all User requirements. Thanks for the Update

03 December 2007, 19:19	#13
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	Thanks for the detailed answer, Bloodwych. There are some nice improvements and additions, i will try it later.

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