Amiga File Server - Page 90

AZka · 28 November 2017, 22:17

I usually read, and then I try to say more.

Only 97 left

emufan · 28 November 2017, 22:27

If you have something special you want upload, you may get the account almost instantly.
I take the new rules as some kind of motivation to keep the amiga spirit alive.
therefore ppl are forced to take part on the board and help each other - every bit counts - just say "hello" to a new member

on the other side, there is the google mirror and the 2nd ftp with good speed

DamienD · 28 November 2017, 23:13

Exactly emufan

...it's not like anyone has been totally cut off from accessing files.

Turran has worked very hard to provide many options; even to non-EAB members...

...and as you say, there is still the mirror provided by DannyBoy without any restrictions.

If you want full access to the main "EAB File Server" though, then all we are asking is for you to be active member / part of the EAB community

...let's be fair, the only way we can judge that is by post count; and to be honest, 100 posts isn't much really.

Dunny · 29 November 2017, 00:38

I think I managed to reach 100 posts in just under 18 months - it's not really much of a hardship.

DamienD · 29 November 2017, 00:42

Yup, and as per one of my previous posts in this thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

If a new user posted say 3 per day, he / she would have full "EAB File Server" privileges in just over a month.

...not difficult really or setting the bar way too high

prowler · 29 November 2017, 00:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Let's be honest, "100 posts" isn't many really... If a new user posted say 3 per day, he / she would have full "EAB File Server" privileges in just over a month.

I would say it could be done in just one day if you had sufficient enthusiasm.

When you've just joined up there are almost 90,000 unread threads for you to browse!

Surely it must be possible to find 100 opportunities to post in that many threads!

DamienD · 29 November 2017, 01:07

...but not everyone is chatty or willing to post straight after just joining for some reason.

However, I was completely the opposite. My whole reason for joining EAB back in 2005 was due to having numerous questions / things to ask / get help with.

Still, after a few months you're there, if really serious about the Amiga / EAB and not just a leecher.

AZka · 29 November 2017, 08:45

I tried google drive. I'll be right. Thank you for your work.

I'm still a reader

Turran · 08 December 2017, 16:55

Fixed a bug (Why nobody report these things?)..

Users who got a "No EAB Forum account name passed. Internal error.." when trying to register an FTP account can now try again.

DamienD · 08 December 2017, 17:02

Just searched the "EAB File Server" for files with the name "Workbench" or "Kickstart".

Found all these that I'm about to remove:

Quote:

/~Uploads/FanAmiga/Sonstiges/MyAmigaDownloads/OLD/wb13_1.zip
/~Uploads/FanAmiga/Sonstiges/MyAmigaDownloads/OLD/wb30_full.zip
/~Uploads/FanAmiga/Sonstiges/MyAmigaDownloads/OLD/workbench3.1.zip
/~Uploads/FanAmiga/Sonstiges/MyAmigaDownloads/sea7/my Dumps/Workbench1.3.zip
/~Uploads/FanAmiga/Sonstiges/SnStGs/other/Amiga Kickstart Roms (For WinUAE).zip
/~Uploads/FanAmiga/Sonstiges/SnStGs/other/AmigaOS_Kickstart_(Kickstart_v1.1-v1.2-v1.3-v2.0-v3.0-v3.1.Q.rar
/~Uploads/FanAmiga/Sonstiges/SnStGs/other/amiga kickstart rom and workbench 3.1.zip
/~Uploads/Newpain/For Rename in tosec format/autres/Amiga WorkBench 1.3.zip
/~Uploads/Sea7/Tosec UNK/my Dumps/Workbench1.3.zip

Guys, as per Rules & Help; please do not upload Workbench / Kickstart ROMs anywhere on EAB or the EAB File Server

DamienD · 08 December 2017, 17:26

...and more "wb" stuff

Quote:

/Commodore_Amiga/Collection/BBS/Amimania 1/UTILS/WB
/Commodore_Amiga/Collection/BBS/Amimania 1/UTILS/WB/WB13.ZIP
/Commodore_Amiga/Collection/BBS/Amimania 1/UTILS/WB/WB20.ZIP
/Commodore_Amiga/Collection/BBS/Amimania 1/UTILS/WB/WB3_0.ZIP
/~Uploads/FanAmiga/Sonstiges/MyAmigaDownloads/Sjakie43/WB 3.1.hdf
/~Uploads/Newpain/For Rename in tosec format/autres/WB13FR.zip
/~Uploads/Thalion/amigaemulatorCD/AMIGA/WB20.ADF
/~Uploads/Tirinoarim/Tirinoarim_1/UTILS/WB13_1.DMS
/~Uploads/Tirinoarim/Tirinoarim_1/UTILS/WB13_2.DMS
/~Uploads/Tirinoarim/Tirinoarim_1/UTILS/WB20_1.DMS
/~Uploads/Tirinoarim/Tirinoarim_1/UTILS/WB20_2.DMS
/~Uploads/Tirinoarim/Tirinoarim_1/UTILS/WB20_3.DMS
/~Uploads/Tirinoarim/Tirinoarim_1/UTILS/WB30_1.DMS
/~Uploads/Tirinoarim/Tirinoarim_1/UTILS/WB30_2.DMS
/~Uploads/Tirinoarim/Tirinoarim_1/UTILS/WB30_3.DMS
/~Uploads/Tirinoarim/Tirinoarim_1/UTILS/WB30_4.DMS
/~Uploads/Tirinoarim/Tirinoarim_1/UTILS/WB30_5.DMS
/~Uploads/Tirinoarim/Tirinoarim_1/UTILS/WB30_6.DMS

I should really do the following for all users listed above and in post #13:

a) Give 2 week temporary bans.
b) Disable your "EAB File Server" accounts.

DH · 08 December 2017, 17:50

This needs to be changed for the EAB File Server:-

Quote:

If you want to upload some files to the server, please consider the following upload rules:

Upload Rules

DO NOT upload "IPF Images", "Workbench Disks", "Kickstart ROMs/Disks" & software or music files still supported/for sale.
DO NOT upload NEVER EVER APC & TCP Software.
Upload your files to folder called your EAB User Name.
Post a reply here what you have uploaded or create a thread about it when you have several files to upload.

And add right underneath in RED BOLD:-

* * * W A R N I N G - - - W A R N I N G - - - W A R N I N G - - - W A R N I N G - - - W A R N I N G - - - W A R N I N G * * *

Those found in violation of the above rules will automatically earn themselves the following ban:-

First Offence a 1 week ban
Second Offence a 1 month ban
Third offence a permanent ban

and have their EAB File Server accounts suspended until further notice or disabled permanently.

* * * W A R N I N G - - - W A R N I N G - - - W A R N I N G - - - W A R N I N G - - - W A R N I N G - - - W A R N I N G * * *

EDIT: @Turran, is there a way to implement, for GM's only, a weekly report of what has been uploaded to the user folders/per user?

We can then use that to weed out any illegal uploads without having to search the whole ~uploads folder. I know this might be a pain, and if it is, just ignore me <DH whistles>

mai · 08 December 2017, 19:11

So have fun to locate those many WBs and KSs inside archives and ISOs!

DH · 08 December 2017, 19:12

Thanks mai, you had to spoil it

EDIT: We rely on the common decency of users to report such violations, so we can respond accordingly

EDIT2: Perhaps the uploads should be placed into quarantine before being placed into the appropriate user folder, however, I don't like the idea of that as it makes the GM's jobs that much harder, and we are already pretty stretched as it is.

Turran · 08 December 2017, 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by DH

EDIT: @Turran, is there a way to implement, for GM's only, a weekly report of what has been uploaded to the user folders/per user?

Everything is possible (almost) =) As a quick fix, I've changed the "Show last 500 uploads" button on https://grandis.nu/eabuser/ if you are an admin. It now shows 25000 last uploads..

Turran · 08 December 2017, 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by DH

Perhaps the uploads should be placed into quarantine before being placed into the appropriate user folder, however, I don't like the idea of that as it makes the GM's jobs that much harder, and we are already pretty stretched as it is.

I tried that a year or so ago. You could only see your own upload folder and had to request things to be moved out of it from "someone".. It only lasted 2-3 hours because people were screaming so much =)

DH · 08 December 2017, 19:52

Cheers Turran

We can now search using ctrl F for possible candidates, much quicker than using an ftp client

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turran

I tried that a year or so ago. You could only see your own upload folder and had to request things to be moved out of it from "someone".. It only lasted 2-3 hours because people were screaming so much =)

Haha! I can imagine. On the old CiA site, all uploads went to a hidden upload folder for that user and was only accessible to the Admins, we looked, checked, then moved their uploads to their public user folder. It worked, but on a small level, however this is EAB and the user level and upload level is by far, much much bigger, so it's not ideally plausible tbh.

mark_k · 08 December 2017, 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by DH

This needs to be changed for the EAB File Server:-

Just wondering, what's the rationale behind not allowing IPF files?

DH · 08 December 2017, 20:04

I can only presume it's because it's an unaltered disk format that keeps the integrity of the original commercial disk with original copy protection as it was when first released.

However, I am not entirely sure, but I guess DamienD will definitely have the correct answer

EDIT: IPF images shouldn't be available to people who didn't/don't own the originals. So basically, distribution of these images is NOT allowed, regardless of preservation. It's probably all to do with how the ipf preserves the original content of the original disk, including copy protection, and therefore, like many other (c) items digitally converted, you require an original to own the digital rights, unless you've paid for the digital copy.

Basically that is my interpretation of why we can't publicly distribute IPF images on the forum, we're simply, and potentially, breaking copyright laws and EAB could be closed down.

kkgarbod · 09 December 2017, 00:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by DH

I can only presume it's because it's an unaltered disk format that keeps the integrity of the original commercial disk with original copy protection as it was when first released.

However, I am not entirely sure, but I guess DamienD will definitely have the correct answer

EDIT: IPF images shouldn't be available to people who didn't/don't own the originals. So basically, distribution of these images is NOT allowed, regardless of preservation. It's probably all to do with how the ipf preserves the original content of the original disk, including copy protection, and therefore, like many other (c) items digitally converted, you require an original to own the digital rights, unless you've paid for the digital copy.

Basically that is my interpretation of why we can't publicly distribute IPF images on the forum, we're simply, and potentially, breaking copyright laws and EAB could be closed down.

Doesn't uploading any game break copyright law? How does Agony.ipf break copyright law but Agony.adf doesn't?

28 November 2017, 22:27	#1782
emufan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: #DrainTheSwamp Posts: 4,545	If you have something special you want upload, you may get the account almost instantly. I take the new rules as some kind of motivation to keep the amiga spirit alive. therefore ppl are forced to take part on the board and help each other - every bit counts - just say "hello" to a new member on the other side, there is the google mirror and the 2nd ftp with good speed Last edited by emufan; 28 November 2017 at 22:37.

08 December 2017, 19:12	#1794
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	Thanks mai, you had to spoil it EDIT: We rely on the common decency of users to report such violations, so we can respond accordingly EDIT2: Perhaps the uploads should be placed into quarantine before being placed into the appropriate user folder, however, I don't like the idea of that as it makes the GM's jobs that much harder, and we are already pretty stretched as it is. Last edited by DH; 08 December 2017 at 19:18.

08 December 2017, 20:04	#1799
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	I can only presume it's because it's an unaltered disk format that keeps the integrity of the original commercial disk with original copy protection as it was when first released. However, I am not entirely sure, but I guess DamienD will definitely have the correct answer EDIT: IPF images shouldn't be available to people who didn't/don't own the originals. So basically, distribution of these images is NOT allowed, regardless of preservation. It's probably all to do with how the ipf preserves the original content of the original disk, including copy protection, and therefore, like many other (c) items digitally converted, you require an original to own the digital rights, unless you've paid for the digital copy. Basically that is my interpretation of why we can't publicly distribute IPF images on the forum, we're simply, and potentially, breaking copyright laws and EAB could be closed down. Last edited by DH; 08 December 2017 at 22:38.

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28 November 2017, 22:17	#1781
AZka Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Budapest Posts: 34	I usually read, and then I try to say more. Only 97 left

28 November 2017, 23:13	#1783
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Exactly emufan ...it's not like anyone has been totally cut off from accessing files. Turran has worked very hard to provide many options; even to non-EAB members... ...and as you say, there is still the mirror provided by DannyBoy without any restrictions. If you want full access to the main "EAB File Server" though, then all we are asking is for you to be active member / part of the EAB community ...let's be fair, the only way we can judge that is by post count; and to be honest, 100 posts isn't much really.

29 November 2017, 00:38	#1784
Dunny Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Scunthorpe/United Kingdom Posts: 1,978	I think I managed to reach 100 posts in just under 18 months - it's not really much of a hardship.

29 November 2017, 01:07	#1787
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	...but not everyone is chatty or willing to post straight after just joining for some reason. However, I was completely the opposite. My whole reason for joining EAB back in 2005 was due to having numerous questions / things to ask / get help with. Still, after a few months you're there, if really serious about the Amiga / EAB and not just a leecher.

29 November 2017, 08:45	#1788
AZka Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Budapest Posts: 34	I tried google drive. I'll be right. Thank you for your work. I'm still a reader

08 December 2017, 16:55	#1789
Turran Moderator Join Date: May 2012 Location: Stockholm / Sweden Age: 49 Posts: 1,572	Fixed a bug (Why nobody report these things?).. Users who got a "No EAB Forum account name passed. Internal error.." when trying to register an FTP account can now try again.

08 December 2017, 19:11	#1793
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	So have fun to locate those many WBs and KSs inside archives and ISOs!

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