Chipset AGA option trashed gfx - Page 7

ross · 30 October 2019, 16:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFOU!

ok i'll wait new version for test

I'm almost done with Agony, I've to test it a little

Quote:

new Beast whdload package is released (http://whdload.de/games/Beast.html)
I obviously did not forget to credit you for your great fix

ross · 30 October 2019, 17:27

Ok, new Agony slave available.

If there are no new issues could be a 2.1 release version
(I'll contact jotd to share it)

Patched also AGA NTSC video border issues and fixed bobs blitter mask.

Please test.

CFou! · 30 October 2019, 17:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by ross

Ok, new Agony slave available.

If there are no new issues could be a 2.1 release version
(I'll contact jotd to share it)

Patched also AGA NTSC video border issues and fixed bobs blitter mask.

Please test.

Great!

I'll test it this evening

It could be interesting as for Beast to add the ability to remove all AGA fixes via a 'Custom' option (for no AGA users)

CFou! · 30 October 2019, 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by ross

Ok, new Agony slave available.

If there are no new issues could be a 2.1 release version
(I'll contact jotd to share it)

Patched also AGA NTSC video border issues and fixed bobs blitter mask.

Please test.

hi,
I quickly tested.

It seems ok for PAL.

But NTSC seems too slow and not smooth (using 60hz video mode and NTSC option in winUaE)

I will test at home this evening to verify (no ULMB monitor here):
- PAL using 100hz+Black frame insertion
- NTSC using 120hz+Black frame insertion

normally both should have very smooth scrolling

ross · 30 October 2019, 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFOU!

But NTSC seems too slow and not smooth (using 60hz video mode and NTSC option in winUaE)

Yes, I noticed it also for the previous slaves..

But this is only a fix for AGA and bobs

CFou! · 31 October 2019, 09:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by ross

Yes, I noticed it also for the previous slaves..

But this is only a fix for AGA and bobs

indeed same problem booting on disks of NTSC version!

i am not again tested all levels (working on game to decrypt=>RNC)

hexaae · 31 October 2019, 23:26

Agony_v21b2.slave is working great! All bugs fixed!

hexaae · 31 October 2019, 23:45

BEAST
Oh... all these years and never noticed before the zeppelins in the sky scroll faster when running to the right against physics, oops

CFou! · 01 November 2019, 02:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by hexaae

Agony_v21b2.slave is working great! All bugs fixed!

confirmed

hexaae · 08 November 2019, 15:18

Agony fixed
Beast fixed
Only Lionheart left...

Known glitches in AGA mode:
1. horizontal line in the center of the screen when background parallax starts and shifting one pixel (easy to spot jumping with a tree on screen for example) e.g. http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=86991

Known glitches also in ECS mode:
2. water transparency with flickering lines at the bottom-right (when there is no background behind)

Optional
Clouds parallax inverted acceleration
3. not exactly a gfx glitch but something wrong to look at: clouds parallax moves faster when you move left adding screen scrolling + parallax speed instead of doing parallax - screen scrolling as expected

Moving right should accelerate clouds parallax speed instead. This would be a quite interesting must have feature to change with a WHDLoad option

4. very minor: level 3 (second outdoor) you have to press I to enable interlaced sky. A WHDLoad option to enable it automatically would be useful.

hexaae · 19 November 2019, 00:02

Also Pinball Fantasies AGA shows strange glitches with Subpixel display emulation ON (press F9-F10 to switch Low/High Res):

ross · 19 November 2019, 00:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by hexaae

Also Pinball Fantasies AGA shows strange glitches with Subpixel display emulation ON (press F9-F10 to switch Low/High Res):

Cannot replicate..

WinUAE version? WHDLoad or ADF? Pinball Illusions

?

hexaae · 19 November 2019, 00:44

WinUAE 4.3.0b5, WHDLoad 18.6, Pinball Illusions AGA latest slave.
My cfg in signature (060...). I tried to degrade many things but still pops-up when Subpixel display emulation ON. Press F9-F10 to switch to low-high.
Also led display top right border has glitches (missing part or badly centered)

Zarnal · 19 November 2019, 09:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by ross

Cannot replicate..

WinUAE version? WHDLoad or ADF? Pinball Illusions

?

Hello,

i can replicate.

After pressing F10.

WHDLoad version/slave 2.2. Win 8.1.WinUae 4.3.0b5

Right border issue confirmed.

Note : it's ok with WinUae 4.2.1 except for right border issue. Appears in WinUae 4.3.0b1

Edit : right border issue confirmed on real hardware.

ross · 19 November 2019, 12:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarnal

WHDLoad version/slave 2.2. Win 8.1.WinUae 4.3.0b5

Right border issue confirmed.

Edit : right border issue confirmed on real hardware.

Well, if the same on real hardware is not a WinUAE issue.
Or did I not understand correctly?

hexaae · 19 November 2019, 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarnal

Edit : right border issue confirmed on real hardware.

Right border "hole" in the led panel only? No vertical bands on real hardware?
Looks like a bug in WHD slave (upper right gfx glitch) + bug in WinUAE (vertical bands when Subpixel display emulation ON) then...

Zarnal · 19 November 2019, 19:39

Same problem with DK version.

I join a savestate of this issue with " Subpixel display Emulation ".

DamienD · 19 November 2019, 19:44

I don't get it, why are you guys turning on "Subpixel display emulation"?

Toni said the following in another thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Seriously, it is mainly useful for development and testing (exact same output in real hardware and in emulation) It isn't really visible without magnifying glass

Never needed to use it.

Toni Wilen · 19 November 2019, 19:52

It is still a bug if it works incorrectly compared to real hardware.

I simply don't recommend using it normally because it is not optimized and can be much slower than normal mode.

ross · 19 November 2019, 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

I don't get it, why are you guys turning on "Subpixel display emulation"?
Never needed to use it.

Yep, you are right Damien, but for a perfect emulation is needed.
Actually is really useful to patch glitches visible only on real machines.
Or also for a silky subpixel scroll on emulation (if used..)

But yes, usually not needed and slow to emulate.

08 November 2019, 15:18	#130
hexaae Bug hunter Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 2,161	Agony fixed Beast fixed Only Lionheart left... Known glitches in AGA mode: 1. horizontal line in the center of the screen when background parallax starts and shifting one pixel (easy to spot jumping with a tree on screen for example) e.g. http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=86991 Known glitches also in ECS mode: 2. water transparency with flickering lines at the bottom-right (when there is no background behind) Optional Clouds parallax inverted acceleration 3. not exactly a gfx glitch but something wrong to look at: clouds parallax moves faster when you move left adding screen scrolling + parallax speed instead of doing parallax - screen scrolling as expected Moving right should accelerate clouds parallax speed instead. This would be a quite interesting must have feature to change with a WHDLoad option 4. very minor: level 3 (second outdoor) you have to press I to enable interlaced sky. A WHDLoad option to enable it automatically would be useful. Last edited by hexaae; 08 November 2019 at 15:42.

19 November 2019, 00:44	#133
hexaae Bug hunter Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 2,161	WinUAE 4.3.0b5, WHDLoad 18.6, Pinball Illusions AGA latest slave. My cfg in signature (060...). I tried to degrade many things but still pops-up when Subpixel display emulation ON. Press F9-F10 to switch to low-high. Also led display top right border has glitches (missing part or badly centered) Last edited by hexaae; 19 November 2019 at 02:04.

19 November 2019, 19:39	#137
Zarnal Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: France Posts: 504	Same problem with DK version. I join a savestate of this issue with " Subpixel display Emulation ". Last edited by Zarnal; 17 May 2021 at 19:10.

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31 October 2019, 23:26	#127
hexaae Bug hunter Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 2,161	Agony_v21b2.slave is working great! All bugs fixed!

31 October 2019, 23:45	#128
hexaae Bug hunter Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 2,161	BEAST Oh... all these years and never noticed before the zeppelins in the sky scroll faster when running to the right against physics, oops

19 November 2019, 00:02	#131
hexaae Bug hunter Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 2,161	Also Pinball Fantasies AGA shows strange glitches with Subpixel display emulation ON (press F9-F10 to switch Low/High Res):

19 November 2019, 19:52	#139
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	It is still a bug if it works incorrectly compared to real hardware. I simply don't recommend using it normally because it is not optimized and can be much slower than normal mode.

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