Discussion about the cost and value of new Amiga games and whether they are overcharged or not!

[lmimmfn]

For amiga 10-15 euro is reasonable for a digital download, higher than that is in the AAA PC market from legit key sites.
I'm all for rewarding devs but the Amiga market is small so expectations on profit should be set accordingly, I. E. There won't be much as such I feel the best games will come from those with passion.

When I saw the Reshoot price I thought hmmm that or Ace Combat 7, erm.

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by lmimmfn

For amiga 10-15 euro is reasonable for a digital download, higher than that is in the AAA PC market from legit key sites.

Totally agree and what I said here:

Originally Posted by DamienD

...not at £39.99 £35.99; that's absolutely mental

We're not talking new PC / PS4 / Xbox One quality games here... and it's really just a slightly more polished version of the unreleased 1992 game.

I hope the digital download will not be as extortionate; otherwise I'll definitely not bother.

The 9 x games that I listed in this post are of the same thinking and reasonably priced

Originally Posted by lmimmfn

When I saw the Reshoot price I thought hmmm that or Ace Combat 7, erm.

ROFL

I thought Richard must have successfully ported the Arcade game Raiden to the Amiga with 100% accuracy; given those prices

[BippyM]

Pd quality i was referring to that puzznic clonr. Apologies for not being clearer.

Glad we agree on somethings

Originally Posted by nikosidis

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The patreon thing don't belong here. Agreed.<br />
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It sounds very strange to review your own game?? I understand if you have a magazine and also are a developer that a game can come in the mag. but I would not review it myself.<br />
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PD quality is not right at all! Reshoot R is very good quality. Better than most space shooters every done on Amiga.

[nikosidis]

Originally Posted by BippyM

Pd quality i was referring to that puzznic clonr. Apologies for not being clearer.

Glad we agree on somethings

Haha

We are all Amigans. It is just a discussion. It is what we have forums for.

[nikosidis]

What is it about Editing here. It goes crazy after edit

[lmimmfn]

Originally Posted by DamienD

Totally agree and what I said here:


The 9 x games that I listed in this post are of the same thinking and reasonably priced .

ROFL

I thought Richard must have successfully ported the Arcade game Raiden to the Amiga with 100% accuracy given those prices

Agree completely, if a Dev needs cash for an amiga game my preference would be to do a Kickstarter or similar so enthusiasts can back it and additional sales are icing on the cake

[nikosidis]

Originally Posted by lmimmfn

Agree completely, if a Dev needs cash for an amiga game my preference would be to do a Kickstarter or similar so enthusiasts can back it and additional sales are icing on the cake

That is also a way to do it but what do you know of the quality of a kickstarter project? If it is a port then I have no problem with it but a original game?

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by nikosidis

What is it about Editing here. It goes crazy after edit

Works fine here, but can see that you are really struggling from all your deleted posts in this thread (which BTW, myself and BippyM can still see as we are GMods).

[Galahad/FLT]

Man, they didn't rate Starquake very highly did they?

I'd argue that the music in Starquake is better than quite a few of those releases, but meh, its clear they didn't hear it all that much is self evident.

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Man, they didn't rate Starquake very highly did they?

I'd argue that the music in Starquake is better than quite a few of those releases, but meh, its clear they didn't hear it all that much is self evident.

Well, it's clear that the person reviewing all games in Amiga Joker <cough; Richard> had an agenda to push his game to the top of the list and knock any competition / better games down

The bias is sooooo obvious; and he shouldn't have been allowed to review his own / other games... there's a quality magazine right there

I mean; I can't believe the poor scores for many games, especially Worthy which blows Reshoot R out of the water

[BippyM]

Unfortunately you are not part of their team!

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Man, they didn't rate Starquake very highly did they?

I'd argue that the music in Starquake is better than quite a few of those releases, but meh, its clear they didn't hear it all that much is self evident.

[lmimmfn]

Originally Posted by nikosidis

That is also a way to do it but what do you know of the quality of a kickstarter project? If it is a port then I have no problem with it but a original game?

Usually Kickstarter has a video demo( quite sure it's in the rules). I don't think it matters if it's an original game or not potential backers would decide and if the game isint successful in Kickstarter it means the originator needs to change their game.

At least in that form potential backers if they love the idea can make sure it happens, those with minor interest should be able to pickup the game at a reasonable price and as such everyone is happy, and if the programmer isint happy with the uptake they can cancel

[BarryB]

Originally Posted by BippyM

The problem is they KNOW the collectors will buy them, and as such they are targeting collectors.. Do you not see that as an issue??

Damn, I guess it's all my fault then

[nikosidis]

Originally Posted by DamienD

Well, it's clear that the person reviewing all games in Amiga Joker <cough; Richard> had an agenda to push his game to the top of the list and knock any competition / better games down

The bias is sooooo obvious; and he shouldn't have been allowed to review his own / other games... there's a quality magazine right there

I mean; I can't believe the poor scores for many games, especially Worthy which blows Reshoot R out of the water

Worthy
GFX: 51% ?????????

What the F...

It is total beauty. Should get 95%

[Rochabian]

As Patreons or Kickstarters are like shareholders, don't they have some things to say about the public price or is it only publisher who decide this ??

[BippyM]

Originally Posted by BarryB

Damn, I guess it's all my fault then

Yes, yes it is

Originally Posted by nikosidis

Worthy
GFX: 51% ?????????

What the F...

It is total beauty. Should get 95%

Now you are starting to see our beef.. Rubbishing other quality games to make their own look good!

[nikosidis]

Originally Posted by Rochabian

As Patreons or Kickstarters are like shareholders, don't they have some things to say about the public price or is it only publisher who decide this ??

That is a very different thing. As Patreons you don't own anything. You just support.

[lmimmfn]

Originally Posted by Rochabian

As Patreons or Kickstarters are like shareholders, don't they have some things to say about the public price or is it only publisher who decide this ??

Don't know about patrons but Kickstarters have no say they're investing in a product happening that's all.

e. g. I kickstarted the Oculus rift, soon after Kickstarters rewards were received by over 7000 of us they got bought by Facebook for a few billion, they did send us free consumer version VR headsets though which was nice( they didn't have to do that)

[BarryB]

Originally Posted by BippyM

Yes, yes it is

I feel like burning all my 'Collectors' boxes in protest now

[BippyM]

Originally Posted by BarryB

I feel like burning all my 'Collectors' boxes in protest now

Nah, chuck em up for sale.. Add 20%, another collector will buy em