Updating SWOS Whdload with new data

Wasagi · 29 June 2010, 18:59

Is there any way I can update a WHDLOAD install of SWOS using the update packs from here: http://synchronated.110mb.com/updates.html

?

TCD · 29 June 2010, 19:11

Yep, just replace the data folder with the one from the update

Graham Humphrey · 29 June 2010, 19:14

Not fully - I think the executable file is modified (as a few of the leagues have a different number of teams now) so if you try to load it using WHDLoad it won't work as the slave doesn't support these 'unofficial' versions. You can try just manually copying the team data and that should be okay in most cases but if the number of teams has been modified it'll crash if you pick that particular league (I think Greece is one) or at the end of the season in career mode when it reviews how all the leagues and cups finished up.

Retro-Nerd · 29 June 2010, 19:18

Had no problems with a modified exe. Well it was the June 2009 update, not this WM 2010 update.

Graham Humphrey · 29 June 2010, 19:19

Ah, I tried an older one a while back (can't remember which one it was) and that didn't work... maybe an '07 or '08 update.

TCD · 29 June 2010, 19:26

Hmm, just tried it with the WC10 data again, choose Greece and it worked fine. Have to admit that I haven't played it to the end of a season yet though.

Graham Humphrey · 29 June 2010, 19:34

To be fair I'm not 100% sure it was Greece

But I do remember having problems as I recall asking Galahad if he'd take a look to support the modified executable.

TCD · 29 June 2010, 19:36

Let's just say it's worth a try if you don't mind not being able to finish a season/tournament

It worked at least fine here for the few matches that I played

Graham Humphrey · 29 June 2010, 19:44

Sure - if that's all you're interested in go ahead

but it definitely crashed at the end of the season on career mode so no point in trying that.

But you may as well try the executable just to see if it works. If it does work then happy days.

Retro-Nerd · 29 June 2010, 19:48

Just had a look. The last 2-3 updates had no executables, only modified data files.

Quote:

Crashes in career mode?
These updates are designed to be used with the original SWOS game files from the 96-97 version. If you are using any older or modified version, the game may be expecting different numbers of teams in some leagues and may thus be prone to crashing. As long as the original SWOS 96-97 game (or one with unaltered league structures from 96-97) is used, there will be no crashes with these updates.

Graham Humphrey · 29 June 2010, 19:55

Ah so that's been done away with then (never bothered downloading them as I assumed it wouldn't work)... it all makes sense now

TCD · 29 June 2010, 20:13

Thanks for clearing that up Retro

Wasagi · 29 June 2010, 21:30

I cant seem to find a data folder only a SWOS icon and the readme file. Am I doing something wrong?

TCD · 29 June 2010, 21:36

Hold right mouse button -> Window -> Show -> All files

Hungry Horace · 29 June 2010, 21:40

iirc, if you modify the exe (and league structures) then *all* HD installs of SWOS break at the end of season in career mode.

this is why the synchronated updates do not tamper with the exe

this problem has been known about since WC'98

TCD · 29 June 2010, 21:42

@Horace
Posted by Retro-Nerd a few posts earlier :

Quote:

Crashes in career mode?
These updates are designed to be used with the original SWOS game files from the 96-97 version. If you are using any older or modified version, the game may be expecting different numbers of teams in some leagues and may thus be prone to crashing. As long as the original SWOS 96-97 game (or one with unaltered league structures from 96-97) is used, there will be no crashes with these updates.

Hungry Horace · 29 June 2010, 22:17

i know TCD, i was highlighting the point its nothing to do with WHDload or any particular HD installer, and giving the reason *why* the sync. updates dont do it

(i.e. that you cant fix it by using a different installer etc)

TCD · 29 June 2010, 22:21

This thread is far too confusing

Just copy data folder over, play, enjoy

Steve · 29 June 2010, 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hungry Horace

iirc, if you modify the exe (and league structures) then *all* HD installs of SWOS break at the end of season in career mode.

This statement is true!

I use a HD installed version not WHDLoad but there is definitely some sort of issue with the Greece file as this is where the game stops (sometimes - not at the end of every season) and locks the game completely.

I am sure I remember this occurs in the WHDLoad version as well.

On my HDF installed version I can select a Greek team in career mode no-problem so that proves nothing. My teams are edited but I have kept the league structures intact! I'm not sure where the problem is and I don't know if it will ever be fixed.

So, yes, you can use the custom team data but don't expect the game to work in career mode. I have a feeling this may be some sort of hidden game protection code.

Retro-Nerd · 29 June 2010, 23:05

So don't use a version with a modified exe or structure. Where's the problem?

29 June 2010, 18:59	#1
Wasagi Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Essex / United Kingdom Posts: 264	Updating SWOS Whdload with new data Is there any way I can update a WHDLOAD install of SWOS using the update packs from here: http://synchronated.110mb.com/updates.html ?

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29 June 2010, 19:11	#2
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,837	Yep, just replace the data folder with the one from the update

29 June 2010, 19:14	#3
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Not fully - I think the executable file is modified (as a few of the leagues have a different number of teams now) so if you try to load it using WHDLoad it won't work as the slave doesn't support these 'unofficial' versions. You can try just manually copying the team data and that should be okay in most cases but if the number of teams has been modified it'll crash if you pick that particular league (I think Greece is one) or at the end of the season in career mode when it reviews how all the leagues and cups finished up.

29 June 2010, 19:18	#4
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	Had no problems with a modified exe. Well it was the June 2009 update, not this WM 2010 update.

29 June 2010, 19:19	#5
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Ah, I tried an older one a while back (can't remember which one it was) and that didn't work... maybe an '07 or '08 update.

29 June 2010, 19:26	#6
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,837	Hmm, just tried it with the WC10 data again, choose Greece and it worked fine. Have to admit that I haven't played it to the end of a season yet though.

29 June 2010, 19:34	#7
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	To be fair I'm not 100% sure it was Greece But I do remember having problems as I recall asking Galahad if he'd take a look to support the modified executable.

29 June 2010, 19:36	#8
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,837	Let's just say it's worth a try if you don't mind not being able to finish a season/tournament It worked at least fine here for the few matches that I played

29 June 2010, 19:44	#9
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Sure - if that's all you're interested in go ahead but it definitely crashed at the end of the season on career mode so no point in trying that. But you may as well try the executable just to see if it works. If it does work then happy days.

29 June 2010, 19:55	#11
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Ah so that's been done away with then (never bothered downloading them as I assumed it wouldn't work)... it all makes sense now

29 June 2010, 20:13	#12
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,837	Thanks for clearing that up Retro

29 June 2010, 21:30	#13
Wasagi Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Essex / United Kingdom Posts: 264	I cant seem to find a data folder only a SWOS icon and the readme file. Am I doing something wrong?

29 June 2010, 21:36	#14
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,837	Hold right mouse button -> Window -> Show -> All files

29 June 2010, 21:40	#15
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,545	iirc, if you modify the exe (and league structures) then all HD installs of SWOS break at the end of season in career mode. this is why the synchronated updates do not tamper with the exe this problem has been known about since WC'98

29 June 2010, 22:17	#17
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,545	i know TCD, i was highlighting the point its nothing to do with WHDload or any particular HD installer, and giving the reason why the sync. updates dont do it (i.e. that you cant fix it by using a different installer etc)

29 June 2010, 22:21	#18
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,837	This thread is far too confusing Just copy data folder over, play, enjoy

29 June 2010, 23:05	#20
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	So don't use a version with a modified exe or structure. Where's the problem?

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