My Defender of the Crown Video Review - Page 2

ajacocks · 04 May 2009, 00:59

matt,

Excellent job on these reviews!

Games that I think should be added to your list:

1) an early graphical RPG, like Ultima III
2) text adventures...Zork I is always a classic

Again, excellent work!

- Alex

Predabot · 04 May 2009, 02:41

Well, how about the original platformer? Super Mario Bros.

Or, if we're going to keep it Amiga-related, then Dune II is the start of the Real-time strategy craze, that had its golden age in the mid to late 90's.

mattbarton.exe · 04 May 2009, 02:46

Nice suggestions. I've been thinking about doing an early RPG, too. Lots of good games out there. I could do Temple of Apshai--a great early CRPG that doesn't get much attention these days (overshadowed by Ultima and Wizardry). I'm very tempted to go way back to PLATO. Lots of good CRPGs and space games on PLATO that will blow your mind--seems incredible that they were doing that stuff back in the 70s.

I did think about Zork but not sure how it'd work in terms of video. I've been wanting to cover Deja Vu "MacVenture" from ICOM Simulations, but that's a Mac game. I have the Mac emulator setup for it, but I'll be damned if I can find the Deja Vu disk images.

I like the idea of doing SMB so I could bring in another platform (NES).

Wow, you guys have given me a lot to think about!!!

Dune II is definitely in the future. We dedicate a chapter to it in Vintage Games as well.

Retro1234 · 15 May 2009, 10:31

After seeing Matts nice review I tried this game and its cool but how hell do you Win! the joust!?!

TCD · 15 May 2009, 10:42

You never played it before??? Wow, I thought every Amiga player did it

Defeat all enemies. That should be it IIRC

Retro1234 · 15 May 2009, 11:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

You never played it before??? Wow, I thought every Amiga player did it

Defeat all enemies. That should be it IIRC

Its one of those Amiga classics I realy should have played. Its cool I recomend checking this game out! I need to look at the CD32 sequal.

With the Raids I just keep pressing Fire - Hurah

But the joust tournament

- There must be a trick to win.

TCD · 15 May 2009, 11:49

You can get the sequel on the file server or the tracker

I'm not sure you have to win the tournaments... It's easier that way for sure, but you should be able to win the game without them (was/am rubbish at them too

)

extralife · 15 May 2009, 14:46

haha I think i got the other knight down only ONCE and that was back when i played this on my c64 with a joystick, so we are talking a looong time ago, i think it was something about hitting the cross on the shield and pushing the button at the right time, as i said it was back when LOL.
U can easy win the game just take all the land, I could hint the easy way to do this, but that will ruin your game m8

rest is just filler

but it's nice filler

Tempest 2084 · 15 May 2009, 16:05

I think you just need to aim at the center of the shield. The better your Jousting skill means the further off the dead center you can be and still win (might also affect how much it bounces around, I don't remember). Of course your opponents jousting skill comes into play in that equation as well.

It's odd that no one has done an in-depth analysis of the gameplay for DotC. It's not like it's not a well known and popular game. I've looked and all I ever see are general reviews.

Specksynder · 15 May 2009, 16:53

I spent literally hundreds of hours playing to this exceptional game
One of the best Amiga games ever made

kipper2k · 15 May 2009, 17:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattbarton.exe

Hi, guys. I thought you might like to see a video review I made of one of my favorite games, Defender of the Crown, the first game I played on my Amiga 1000! Please check it out and let me know what you think. BTW, I am doing weekly video reviews of classic games. If you have any requests for future episodes, please let me know. I already intend to review Ports of Call, Secret of Monkey Island, and The Settlers at some time or another!

[ Show youtube player ]

Great review... Ports of Call... Now theres one that drove me nuts, i never could make any money on that damn game... musta been doing something wrong, i ended up cheating. Although not ethical... it felt good

DDNI · 15 May 2009, 17:54

It would be good if there was a hack that let you simply play the joust game again and again.

laffer · 15 May 2009, 18:08

Awesome review! Subscribed

One suggestion - you might want to crop the Amiga footage videos... remove the big borders.

But very nice, looking forward to more reviews!

mattbarton.exe · 15 May 2009, 20:38

The jousting is easier if you choose Wolfric. Basically, just aim for the shield or the helmet; the better jousters have lances that don't bounce up and down so much, so it's easier to aim. I'm not a joust champion or anything, but I did get to where I could consistently win with Wolfric the Wild.

Sensi · 15 May 2009, 21:14

To be honest, I have never finished DOTC on Amiga IIRC. But on speccy we competed with other guys and tried to finish the game as fast as possible. I dont remember exactly, but the best time was something around 1,30, maybe less. There was some easy way how to win the game.

laffer · 15 May 2009, 21:19

I actually bought the GBA version a while ago, never tested it.

mattbarton.exe · 16 May 2009, 00:10

The sequel for CDTV looks very interesting. Anyone tried that one?

extralife · 16 May 2009, 00:56

hehe sensi, sometimes it's difficult to see the forest for all them trees

Adropac2 · 16 May 2009, 06:05

Wow something and someone actually worth watching on You tube - no offense to the very few decent efforts out there of course

A both interesting and intelligently spoken look back at a classic, though i would have also touched on troop purchasing as well - not that it was anything too in depth mind

Defender of the crown wowed pretty much anyone back in it's day when they went to their local computer shop, but it was probably the C64 and St versions that played the better game after their revision

Good stuff

Iv'e still yet to see a review of Solo Flight from anyone though and that's a shame given how great it is

DamienD · 16 May 2009, 16:59

I love Defender of the Crown

I've managed to finished all these versions numerous times:

... Defender of the Crown (C64)
... Defender of the Crown (Amiga - OCS)
... Defender of the Crown (Amiga - CDTV)
... Defender of the Crown II (Amiga - CD32/CDTV)

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04 May 2009, 00:59	#21
ajacocks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Falls Church, Virginia, USA Posts: 59	matt, Excellent job on these reviews! Games that I think should be added to your list: 1) an early graphical RPG, like Ultima III 2) text adventures...Zork I is always a classic Again, excellent work! - Alex

04 May 2009, 02:41	#22
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 397	Well, how about the original platformer? Super Mario Bros. Or, if we're going to keep it Amiga-related, then Dune II is the start of the Real-time strategy craze, that had its golden age in the mid to late 90's.

04 May 2009, 02:46	#23
mattbarton.exe Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: St Cloud, MN/USA Posts: 328	Nice suggestions. I've been thinking about doing an early RPG, too. Lots of good games out there. I could do Temple of Apshai--a great early CRPG that doesn't get much attention these days (overshadowed by Ultima and Wizardry). I'm very tempted to go way back to PLATO. Lots of good CRPGs and space games on PLATO that will blow your mind--seems incredible that they were doing that stuff back in the 70s. I did think about Zork but not sure how it'd work in terms of video. I've been wanting to cover Deja Vu "MacVenture" from ICOM Simulations, but that's a Mac game. I have the Mac emulator setup for it, but I'll be damned if I can find the Deja Vu disk images. I like the idea of doing SMB so I could bring in another platform (NES). Wow, you guys have given me a lot to think about!!! Dune II is definitely in the future. We dedicate a chapter to it in Vintage Games as well.

15 May 2009, 10:31	#24
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	After seeing Matts nice review I tried this game and its cool but how hell do you Win! the joust!?!

15 May 2009, 10:42	#25
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,531	You never played it before??? Wow, I thought every Amiga player did it Defeat all enemies. That should be it IIRC

15 May 2009, 11:49	#27
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,531	You can get the sequel on the file server or the tracker I'm not sure you have to win the tournaments... It's easier that way for sure, but you should be able to win the game without them (was/am rubbish at them too )

15 May 2009, 14:46	#28
extralife Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: denmark Posts: 268	haha I think i got the other knight down only ONCE and that was back when i played this on my c64 with a joystick, so we are talking a looong time ago, i think it was something about hitting the cross on the shield and pushing the button at the right time, as i said it was back when LOL. U can easy win the game just take all the land, I could hint the easy way to do this, but that will ruin your game m8 rest is just filler but it's nice filler

15 May 2009, 16:05	#29
Tempest 2084 Prototype Historian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SE MI / USA Posts: 420	I think you just need to aim at the center of the shield. The better your Jousting skill means the further off the dead center you can be and still win (might also affect how much it bounces around, I don't remember). Of course your opponents jousting skill comes into play in that equation as well. It's odd that no one has done an in-depth analysis of the gameplay for DotC. It's not like it's not a well known and popular game. I've looked and all I ever see are general reviews.

15 May 2009, 16:53	#30
Specksynder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italy Age: 47 Posts: 445	I spent literally hundreds of hours playing to this exceptional game One of the best Amiga games ever made

15 May 2009, 17:54	#32
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	It would be good if there was a hack that let you simply play the joust game again and again.

15 May 2009, 18:08	#33
laffer Zone Friend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Norway Age: 43 Posts: 1,335	Awesome review! Subscribed One suggestion - you might want to crop the Amiga footage videos... remove the big borders. But very nice, looking forward to more reviews!

15 May 2009, 20:38	#34
mattbarton.exe Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: St Cloud, MN/USA Posts: 328	The jousting is easier if you choose Wolfric. Basically, just aim for the shield or the helmet; the better jousters have lances that don't bounce up and down so much, so it's easier to aim. I'm not a joust champion or anything, but I did get to where I could consistently win with Wolfric the Wild.

15 May 2009, 21:14	#35
Sensi Unregistered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 1,643	To be honest, I have never finished DOTC on Amiga IIRC. But on speccy we competed with other guys and tried to finish the game as fast as possible. I dont remember exactly, but the best time was something around 1,30, maybe less. There was some easy way how to win the game.

15 May 2009, 21:19	#36
laffer Zone Friend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Norway Age: 43 Posts: 1,335	I actually bought the GBA version a while ago, never tested it.

16 May 2009, 00:10	#37
mattbarton.exe Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: St Cloud, MN/USA Posts: 328	The sequel for CDTV looks very interesting. Anyone tried that one?

16 May 2009, 00:56	#38
extralife Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: denmark Posts: 268	hehe sensi, sometimes it's difficult to see the forest for all them trees

16 May 2009, 06:05	#39
Adropac2 Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Age: 51 Posts: 1,056	Wow something and someone actually worth watching on You tube - no offense to the very few decent efforts out there of course A both interesting and intelligently spoken look back at a classic, though i would have also touched on troop purchasing as well - not that it was anything too in depth mind Defender of the crown wowed pretty much anyone back in it's day when they went to their local computer shop, but it was probably the C64 and St versions that played the better game after their revision Good stuff Iv'e still yet to see a review of Solo Flight from anyone though and that's a shame given how great it is

16 May 2009, 16:59	#40
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	I love Defender of the Crown I've managed to finished all these versions numerous times: ... Defender of the Crown (C64) ... Defender of the Crown (Amiga - OCS) ... Defender of the Crown (Amiga - CDTV) ... Defender of the Crown II (Amiga - CD32/CDTV)

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