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View Poll Results: What competition scoring system do you think is appropriate?
Scoring only based on a "fixed ranking" point scale (Current) 3 60.00%
Scoring only based on a "Dynamic" point scale 0 0%
Scoring only based on a Proportional score 0 0%
Scoring based on both Fixed and Proportional (Lemon 64) 2 40.00%
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Old 04 December 2013, 10:00   #1
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New Super League scoring system

Here we go then. As discussed on Lemon a while back, it seems a number of people want a change to the scoring system to cover making it easier to get points for your efforts and making it dependant on how well you actually perform in a game, how much you win by etc amongst other reasons. These four choices are just ideas of the way we want to go, the specifics will still need to be agreed (even Fixed doesn't mean we will keep the current system exactly). But here's what the four choices represent:

The current system or similar system based on current method

A set scale that increase as the number of competitors increases.

The amount of points earned is based on your wining margin
Points based upon % of winners score achieved

A mix of the above Fixed and Proportional scoring methods as used by Lemon64

So choose your preference, discuss, ask questions for the next fortnight and we'll take it from there. Please ONLY vote on this or the upcoming Lemon thread though, NOT BOTH so it doesn't distort the results. Thanks!
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Old 04 December 2013, 12:23   #2
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Original Lemon discussion - http://www.lemonamiga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11273

Equivalent Lemon poll - http://www.lemonamiga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11473
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Old 04 December 2013, 16:53   #3
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Proportional isn't fair for games that have exponentially exploding scores.
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Old 04 December 2013, 17:10   #4
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I saw votes for a dynamic score and have an idea.

I have a proposal for a normalized dynamic score scale, where the first player gets always the same score (in this example 50 points) and the last player always 1 point, and the "player in the middle" always 14 points, and the other scores are evaluated to fit. A such scoring with fixed edges has the advantage that every game contributes the same weight for the first and last place and still adapts to the number of competitors.

The formula for the points of a competitor (including a participation-thankyou-point) is

((Number_of_Competitors - Currentplace)/(Number_of_Competitors - 1))^2 * 49 + 1

and the result is rounded up.

For comparison, here is the current scoring evaluated to a 50 point scale, rounded to nearest integer:
1. 50, 2. 40, 3. 33, 4. 30, 5. 27, 6. 23, 7. 20, 8. 17, 9. 13, 10. 10, 11. 7, 12. 3, 13. 0 points

The results for 13 players taking part (competitors) with the above formula are:
1. 50, 2. 43, 3. 36, 4. 29, 5. 23, 6. 18, 7. 14, 8. 10, 9. 7, 10. 5, 11. 3, 12. 2, 13. 1 points

For only 5 players it would be:
1. 50, 2. 29, 3. 14, 4. 5, 5. 1 points

With an exponent of 1.51 instead of 2, you get a better approximation of the middle range in exchange for less distance in the first places:
1. 50, 2. 44, 3. 39, 4. 33, 5. 28, 6. 23, 7. 19, 8. 15, 9. 11, 10. 8, 11. 5, 12. 3, 13. 1 points

Edit: With a bit of afterthought, results also can be rounded down, leading to slightly lower scores.

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Even though I think the current system is ok I'll vote for combination (lemon) since it should make the leader board more even without sacrificing fairness.
Definitely not "proportional"..
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Proportional is a terrible idea, as there are always a few people with scores significantly higher than the vast majority.

Personally, I like the current scoring method.
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As there is now silence for about 14 days on this poll, I want to ask when this poll will be closed, for as it looks a second round is needed currently, and that must be done before the new competition season starts, and I would prefer if Downfall, where a lot of people participate, and the second poll round would overlap.
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