Is Puzzle Bobble possible on A500/A1200?

[Foebane]

Originally Posted by britelite

Of course you can, as long as you don't actually expect anyone to react on these wishes

[Tigerskunk]

(love you guys )

[gimbal]

I love threads like this. It can do with a little less miscommunication, but in the end there is usually a tangible result like this:

Originally Posted by nobody

ok it would look like this

You get so much creativity already without having to actually build a physical game around it. That's what threads such as this are good for; combined brainpower. Ideas, designs, restrictions, workarounds for those restrictions. Things you can achieve in the normal timeframe of every day life, something that building a game really does not allow for.

Keep it up folks, these threads make my day. And who knows, maybe for every one out of a hundred threads someone gets inspired enough to give it a try. That's good enough for me.

[roondar]

I must admit that the 3-colour bubble example actually looks very nice. I mean, it doesn't look like the arcade, but it's certainly nice to look at

[Amiga1992]

Originally Posted by gimbal

Then you're making Wizard's Castle.

Don't you mean Agony?

[gimbal]

Originally Posted by Akira

Don't you mean Agony?

Nah, I have respect for that game even though it is not as fun as it should be.

[Coagulus]

That mock up looks great. Would it be quicker doing the frame and background in hardware sprites so the background doesn't need to be preserved when the balls move?

[Tigerskunk]

Originally Posted by Coagulus

That mock up looks great. Would it be quicker doing the frame and background in hardware sprites so the background doesn't need to be preserved when the balls move?

If you could get the background to 128px width, that would actually be an interesting idea...
(measured it, it's 130px wide.. damn it... )

But, I don't know about the 3 colour per marble version.

That 32 colour reduction posted two pages earlier looks quite fine to me.



Why not going that route?

[roondar]

It certainly looks nicer but with 32 colours framerate is going to be an issue. I understand that 25/17FPS may be feasible but it's still a very busy game from time to time and 32 colours means losing quite a bit of Blitter oomph over 16 colours.

Yeah, like I said earlier - I've been reconsidering how "easy" this game is. It seems to be quite deceptive in terms of what tech it'd need and can get really busy.

[Tigerskunk]

Originally Posted by roondar

It certainly looks nicer but with 32 colours framerate is going to be an issue. I understand that 25/17FPS may be feasible but it's still a very busy game from time to time and 32 colours means losing quite a bit of Blitter oomph over 16 colours.

Yeah, like I said earlier - I've been reconsidering how "easy" this game is. It seems to be quite deceptive in terms of what tech it'd need and can get really busy.

3 colours x 8 different marbles is still bigger than 16, isn't it?

[roondar]

Err.... Don't come to me with this crazy math stuff. What do I know!

[gimbal]

Originally Posted by roondar

Yeah, like I said earlier - I've been reconsidering how "easy" this game is. It seems to be quite deceptive in terms of what tech it'd need and can get really busy.

Same, it does look like a game made for AGA machines. Without the flash, you lose half the game.

[nobody]

There is an amiga clone (aga)

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And a simple gba port, nowhere near the arcade graphics

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[roondar]

Bubble Heroes does have some steep system requirements, though. Minimum requirements are AGA/020 and 4MB of fast RAM.

[DamienD]

That's hardly steep roondar, ok it's not stock but...

For me steep is anything 68040 / 68060 and 16GB Fast RAM upwards.

[roondar]

Originally Posted by DamienD

That's hardly steep roondar, ok it's not stock but...

For me steep is anything 68040 / 68060 and 16GB Fast RAM upwards.

What I meant was this: compared to the idea of getting the game to run on an A500, it's pretty steep

[DamienD]

Ah, for sure.

[chb]

Just a small observation concerning blitter performance: The bubbles are 16 pixels wide (and high) and fall only in vertical direction, so for every second row they are perfectly aligned to a 16 pixel grid word boundaries in memory all the time. For those bubbles the blitt is only one word wide, where a typical 16 pixel wide bob (and those bubbles on the other rows) usually needs two words because of shifting. That means you could probably get ~1.5x the number of bobs you would typically expect at a given bit depth, a bit less due to blitter setup overhead. But then again, you can keep the shift & mask values constant...

[jotd]

bubble heroes gameplay looks VERY similar to Candy puzzle...

[DeaTure]

Just did a 32 color reduction for fun without thinking too much. I think there is a lot of options to use sprites for like the blue between the two silos to get a few extra colors where it might be needed