FS: Retina Z2 and Z3 & 500/2000 megachip

coze · 11 July 2007, 15:04

Up for sale I have two boards, a Retina Z2 and Z3. Both of them are 4mb boards, tested and working. The Z2 comes with floppies and manual. Z3 comes with nothing

You'll want to use picasso96 or cybergraphX with it anyway so I chose to send the floppies to Z2 buyer.

EDIT : The Z3 board is sold. So only the Z2 is for sale.

Here are some piccies ! (I love showing off my HARDware)

Z2 with manual and floppies

A closer look:

A view of the ZIP ram:

Z2 Retina Avail result with SysSpeed Sysinfo on the background:

Retina Z3 winking and smiling at its future master:

Z3 Retina Avail result with SysSpeed Sysinfo on the background (I have no idea why 700k is used):

My A4000 setup with multiscan productivity mode (gotta love Classic Workbench ! Thanks goes to BloodWych !):

Choosing a Retina mode (Picasso96 installed):

Arrrgh my LCD is screaming with pain ! change modes quick !

How about this mode ?

Bah, too small to read, so settle down at 1120x832:

Yay, all is great ! looks awesome though notice copper effect is not working (naturally) !

Anyway, I'm selling these babies cause I'll go cybervisionPPC. Asking price is 60$ for Z2 and 110$ for Z3, all including shipping. The Z2 you need to use with Retina EMU. It seems pretty interesting cause it 'intercepts' screens and attempts to promote them to a Retina mode. It didn't work on my A4000 because I use a custom kickstart (3.9). It also complains about kickstart with my A3000 (3.1), but kind of works. I was able to view sysinfo, octamed and other intuition based apps with Retina EMU. It works with some games, Eye of the beholder 1-2(artifacts seen, but works with continous refresh at rate 0.2 seconds), Pirates (works but unplayable), SSI CRPG games (pools of radiance, curse of the azure bonds, etc). (RetinaEMU doesn't work with whdload games, I dunno why). This is great cause you can use these programs on a proper screen without the use of a scandoubler ! Actually it's better than a scandoubler cause it doesn't just double the Horizontal rate. It changes the whole picture with new horizontal and vertical rates (and a different size) Anyway have a look at this :

Anyway that's it ! Add 10$ for EMS shipping which gives insurance, tracking, and super-fast delivery and everything good. I will add more screen with RetinaEMU as I explore.

DrBong · 11 July 2007, 15:59

PM sent for the Retina Z3!

coze · 11 July 2007, 16:28

Edit : The megachip module is sold !

Ok, the Z3 is reserve to Dr Bong !

Oops I forgot to add the megachip module. It's one of those modules to give 2mb chip ram to your A500/2000. It's tested and working, though it comes with an NTSC agnus. PAL folks will need to secure a PAL agnus to use it with your boards. It's up for grabs for 50$. (shipped)

BinoX · 11 July 2007, 16:28

If the retina Z2 isn't gone by next month (1st of August) then I'll have it

coze · 11 July 2007, 17:17

Retina Z3 and Megachip module are sold !

Ok, here's some sexy retina emu shots with Retina Z2, so you know what you're getting ... And I want to show off how good it is for some programs.

Eye of the beholder 2

mostly fine but some artifacts here and there ...

pirates in the realm of ZEN ...

arrgh ...

zombie beggar ...

curse of the azure bonds (here I figured out how to display the frequency of the coming signal)

ok here's octamed ... This is native A3000 output without scandoubling. Notice how my lcd screams because the frequencies are out of range.

Even with scandoubler enabled, I can't get rid of the error message cause vertical frequency is still out of range (cause it's 50Hz - PAL)

The only way for me to get rid of the message is to use an NTSC display (which gives vertical 60Hz) and turn on the scandoubler

still the bottom part of the screen is cropped, so it's quite annoying ... (compare with PAL screen)

Now, enter the Retina Z2 ! It gives a 43kHz horizontal 70Hz vertical signal which is just perfect ! and no cropping or whatever ...

DrBong · 11 July 2007, 17:25

@coze
I would have nabbed the Retina Z2 as well if it worked perfectly under KS3.1, simply just to check out the "mode promotion" feature. Got KS 3.1 on all my Amigas. Just as well I suppose......think I've blown the budget for the month as it is! Anyway, I've just sent the PayPal payment for the Retina Z3 and Megachip. Please let me know when the gear goes out in the mail. Cheers!

coze · 11 July 2007, 17:34

DrBong, your items will ship tomorrow morning (Japan time, which shouldn't be much different than Australia time I guess ?).

Actually the Z2 works fine under 3.1, it's the Retina EMU program which creates problems. It didn't work with my A4000 cause I have a custom 3.9 rom (OS 3.9 rom updates burnt into the rom, for more details, see here). When you run it, it makes a check for the kickstart, and in case of kickstart 3.1 it complains about kickrom being not supported yet, but starts and works normally as far as I can tell. And in the case of my kickrom it doesn't even start. Maybe the kickstart check can be patched, but I don't know. Also, I couldn't use the RetinaEMU program with Z3 on my A4000 because of the kickstart.

DrBong · 11 July 2007, 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by coze

DrBong, your items will ship tomorrow morning (Japan time, which shouldn't be much different than Australia time I guess ?).

Great!

Quote:

Actually the Z2 works fine under 3.1, it's the Retina EMU program which creates problems. It didn't work with my A4000 cause I have a custom 3.9 rom (OS 3.9 rom updates burnt into the rom, for more details, see here). When you run it, it makes a check for the kickstart, and in case of kickstart 3.1 it complains about kickrom being not supported yet, but starts and works normally as far as I can tell. And in the case of my kickrom it doesn't even start. Maybe the kickstart check can be patched, but I don't know. Also, I couldn't use the RetinaEMU program with Z3 on my A4000 because of the kickstart.

Yeh, it would be the RetinaEMU functions that I would be interested in using, but almost all my Amigas have KS3.1.

BTW you talk of a custom KS rom for your A4000. I gather you have an eprom burner? If so, you wouldn't by chance be able to burn the latest Z3 Fastlane firmware? (I remember you selling a Fastlane a little while back). If you can, what's your fee (PM me if you prefer)?

coze · 11 July 2007, 17:48

Ok, I was looking at the manual and confirm the sysinfo reading. Another nifty feature of the Retina Z2 is that it doesn't take up Zorro-2 space. Although it has 4mb ram installed, it uses only 128k of Zorro-2 space. Z3 configures the ram as a continous block though since Zorro-3 space is sufficiently large. So don't worry if you have lots of Zorro-2 cards.

coze · 11 July 2007, 18:30

Last but not least (well, maybe it is the least) I have Dopus 5 for sale. Floppy, manual, registration (includes serial). I'm selling it because .... aargh it's shit. Dopus 4 is much mroe better. Anyway, it still has some fans, and if you're one of those suckers, send me 20$ and it's yours. Or I'm gonna burn it or something.

(image edited to hide serial)

coze · 11 July 2007, 18:31

Last but not least (well, maybe it is the least) I have Dopus 5 for sale. Floppy, manual, registration (includes serial). I'm selling it because .... aargh it's shit. Dopus 4 is much better. Anyway, it still has some fans, and if you're one of those suckers, send me 20$ and it's yours. Or I'm gonna burn it or something.

(image edited to hide serial)

BinoX · 11 July 2007, 21:58

lol.. If you don't sell it, stick it in with the Retina Z2 if I get that

(and drop the price to $15 (Bulk purchase discount

))

Zetr0 · 12 July 2007, 01:50

@binox

you really are going for the "Power Buyer" title arn`t you this month LOL

the good news is you will be broke next month and all those amiga bargins will be mine... MUWAHAHAHHAHA.... ahhh... hang on.... you would of bought them all last month

coze · 12 July 2007, 03:00

Binox, you can get it with the Z2 for 10$

BinoX · 12 July 2007, 09:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

@binox

you really are going for the "Power Buyer" title arn`t you this month LOL

the good news is you will be broke next month and all those amiga bargins will be mine... MUWAHAHAHHAHA.... ahhh... hang on.... you would of bought them all last month

lol.. I got a wedding (mine) next August, so from about September onwards I'm gunna be short on cash, so I'm spending while I can

Quote:

Originally Posted by coze

Binox, you can get it with the Z2 for 10$

Cool thx ^_^ Hopefully I will get it then

11 July 2007, 15:04	#1
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	FS: Retina Z2 and Z3 & 500/2000 megachip Up for sale I have two boards, a Retina Z2 and Z3. Both of them are 4mb boards, tested and working. The Z2 comes with floppies and manual. Z3 comes with nothing You'll want to use picasso96 or cybergraphX with it anyway so I chose to send the floppies to Z2 buyer. EDIT : The Z3 board is sold. So only the Z2 is for sale. Here are some piccies ! (I love showing off my HARDware) Z2 with manual and floppies A closer look: A view of the ZIP ram: Z2 Retina Avail result with SysSpeed Sysinfo on the background: Retina Z3 winking and smiling at its future master: Z3 Retina Avail result with SysSpeed Sysinfo on the background (I have no idea why 700k is used): My A4000 setup with multiscan productivity mode (gotta love Classic Workbench ! Thanks goes to BloodWych !): Choosing a Retina mode (Picasso96 installed): Arrrgh my LCD is screaming with pain ! change modes quick ! How about this mode ? Bah, too small to read, so settle down at 1120x832: Yay, all is great ! looks awesome though notice copper effect is not working (naturally) ! Anyway, I'm selling these babies cause I'll go cybervisionPPC. Asking price is 60$ for Z2 and 110$ for Z3, all including shipping. The Z2 you need to use with Retina EMU. It seems pretty interesting cause it 'intercepts' screens and attempts to promote them to a Retina mode. It didn't work on my A4000 because I use a custom kickstart (3.9). It also complains about kickstart with my A3000 (3.1), but kind of works. I was able to view sysinfo, octamed and other intuition based apps with Retina EMU. It works with some games, Eye of the beholder 1-2(artifacts seen, but works with continous refresh at rate 0.2 seconds), Pirates (works but unplayable), SSI CRPG games (pools of radiance, curse of the azure bonds, etc). (RetinaEMU doesn't work with whdload games, I dunno why). This is great cause you can use these programs on a proper screen without the use of a scandoubler ! Actually it's better than a scandoubler cause it doesn't just double the Horizontal rate. It changes the whole picture with new horizontal and vertical rates (and a different size) Anyway have a look at this : Anyway that's it ! Add 10$ for EMS shipping which gives insurance, tracking, and super-fast delivery and everything good. I will add more screen with RetinaEMU as I explore. Last edited by coze; 11 July 2007 at 17:26. Reason: SOLD

11 July 2007, 16:28	#3
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	Edit : The megachip module is sold ! Ok, the Z3 is reserve to Dr Bong ! Oops I forgot to add the megachip module. It's one of those modules to give 2mb chip ram to your A500/2000. It's tested and working, though it comes with an NTSC agnus. PAL folks will need to secure a PAL agnus to use it with your boards. It's up for grabs for 50$. (shipped) Last edited by coze; 11 July 2007 at 17:25. Reason: SOLD

11 July 2007, 17:25	#6
DrBong HOL / AMR Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 2,632	@coze I would have nabbed the Retina Z2 as well if it worked perfectly under KS3.1, simply just to check out the "mode promotion" feature. Got KS 3.1 on all my Amigas. Just as well I suppose......think I've blown the budget for the month as it is! Anyway, I've just sent the PayPal payment for the Retina Z3 and Megachip. Please let me know when the gear goes out in the mail. Cheers! Last edited by DrBong; 11 July 2007 at 17:31.

12 July 2007, 03:00	#14
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	Binox, you can get it with the Z2 for 10$ Last edited by coze; 12 July 2007 at 03:26.

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11 July 2007, 15:59	#2
DrBong HOL / AMR Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 2,632	PM sent for the Retina Z3!

11 July 2007, 16:28	#4
BinoX Miggy Man Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cornwall, United Kingdom Age: 40 Posts: 831	If the retina Z2 isn't gone by next month (1st of August) then I'll have it

11 July 2007, 17:17	#5
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	Retina Z3 and Megachip module are sold ! Ok, here's some sexy retina emu shots with Retina Z2, so you know what you're getting ... And I want to show off how good it is for some programs. Eye of the beholder 2 mostly fine but some artifacts here and there ... pirates in the realm of ZEN ... arrgh ... zombie beggar ... curse of the azure bonds (here I figured out how to display the frequency of the coming signal) ok here's octamed ... This is native A3000 output without scandoubling. Notice how my lcd screams because the frequencies are out of range. Even with scandoubler enabled, I can't get rid of the error message cause vertical frequency is still out of range (cause it's 50Hz - PAL) The only way for me to get rid of the message is to use an NTSC display (which gives vertical 60Hz) and turn on the scandoubler still the bottom part of the screen is cropped, so it's quite annoying ... (compare with PAL screen) Now, enter the Retina Z2 ! It gives a 43kHz horizontal 70Hz vertical signal which is just perfect ! and no cropping or whatever ...

11 July 2007, 17:34	#7
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	DrBong, your items will ship tomorrow morning (Japan time, which shouldn't be much different than Australia time I guess ?). Actually the Z2 works fine under 3.1, it's the Retina EMU program which creates problems. It didn't work with my A4000 cause I have a custom 3.9 rom (OS 3.9 rom updates burnt into the rom, for more details, see here). When you run it, it makes a check for the kickstart, and in case of kickstart 3.1 it complains about kickrom being not supported yet, but starts and works normally as far as I can tell. And in the case of my kickrom it doesn't even start. Maybe the kickstart check can be patched, but I don't know. Also, I couldn't use the RetinaEMU program with Z3 on my A4000 because of the kickstart.

11 July 2007, 17:48	#9
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	Ok, I was looking at the manual and confirm the sysinfo reading. Another nifty feature of the Retina Z2 is that it doesn't take up Zorro-2 space. Although it has 4mb ram installed, it uses only 128k of Zorro-2 space. Z3 configures the ram as a continous block though since Zorro-3 space is sufficiently large. So don't worry if you have lots of Zorro-2 cards.

11 July 2007, 18:30	#10
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	Last but not least (well, maybe it is the least) I have Dopus 5 for sale. Floppy, manual, registration (includes serial). I'm selling it because .... aargh it's shit. Dopus 4 is much mroe better. Anyway, it still has some fans, and if you're one of those suckers, send me 20$ and it's yours. Or I'm gonna burn it or something. (image edited to hide serial)

11 July 2007, 18:31	#11
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	Last but not least (well, maybe it is the least) I have Dopus 5 for sale. Floppy, manual, registration (includes serial). I'm selling it because .... aargh it's shit. Dopus 4 is much better. Anyway, it still has some fans, and if you're one of those suckers, send me 20$ and it's yours. Or I'm gonna burn it or something. (image edited to hide serial)

11 July 2007, 21:58	#12
BinoX Miggy Man Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cornwall, United Kingdom Age: 40 Posts: 831	lol.. If you don't sell it, stick it in with the Retina Z2 if I get that (and drop the price to $15 (Bulk purchase discount ))

12 July 2007, 01:50	#13
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@binox you really are going for the "Power Buyer" title arn`t you this month LOL the good news is you will be broke next month and all those amiga bargins will be mine... MUWAHAHAHHAHA.... ahhh... hang on.... you would of bought them all last month

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