Create a HDF from directories

radavi · 28 May 2020, 12:41

Hi there,

I have been fooling around with WinUAE and have now a setup with 3 directories (for dh0:, dh1: and dh2

How can I create 1 HDF file from this setup ?

Lots a information of how to create an empty hdf, but cannot find this answer.

Saghalie · 28 May 2020, 19:27

Hey radavi,
You just need to mount the empty hdf with the 3 directories and
copy the info from the directories to the hdf.

So if the HDF's device name is DH3 then if you want to make a
system HDF just copy the contents from DH0: to DH3 ... use
this command from a CLI

Copy DH0: DH3 clone all

That will create all directories and files to the HDF for system files.
You could then make the HDF the system disk and reboot the
emulation and do the same for the other disks. But you would
want to make sure that you have enough space on your HDF's to
do this.

radavi · 30 May 2020, 11:25

Alrighty!

I am not yet finished with selecting everything I want on it, but I thought just ask ahead.

This looks like something I can manage to do and will try it soon. Thanks for you detailed answer.

radavi · 30 May 2020, 11:34

I could not resist and started with something. Just to be sure:
I create a NEW hdf and make it 3 gig. Then I boot the emulation like I am used to.

Now it seems I have to formet the newly created hdf. That I could do.
Then with the clone command you mentioned I will clone my dh0: to it.

And then, can i clone the dh1: as well, or do I first have to partition the 'newly hdf' first...or will that clone option do that for me somehow?

DamienD · 30 May 2020, 11:51

You may want to a have a quick read of this thread; especially thomas's post: Max. size HDD on A1200?

...but yes you'll have to format the .HDF first before using "clone".

radavi · 30 May 2020, 12:26

Cool, thanks!

AC/DC HACKER! · 03 June 2020, 04:51

I also suggest you use RDB mode for HDF. Create HDF, then when it's selected click RDB option. Now it'll act the same as a real Hard Drive and you may use it easily in other emulators if you want. Remember to format.

AMIGASYSTEM · 03 June 2020, 08:50

Yes just with RDB set you can also partition HardFile and use your favorite FileSystem.
You can also write the Hardfile (burn it) on CF/SD and start it on real Amiga as shown in my attached video (it's in Italian but it's intuitive).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19aN...ew?usp=sharing

radavi · 07 June 2020, 19:17

So...what is the best way to have the partitioning on the newly created hdf ?

AMIGASYSTEM · 07 June 2020, 19:30

You can get partitioning using HDToolBox after setting the RDB to WinUAE as shown in the video

radavi · 07 June 2020, 19:42

Problem is that I have older workbench I suppose....1996 verions. When I make the hdf setting to RDB my workbench does not show the device anymore, hdtoolbox cannot see any drive at all then

radavi · 07 June 2020, 19:56

with some trial and error I think i managed to do it, but now this will boot and then it states it is not a dos disk, cannot boot from it. probably because the winua now has 2 dh0: drives...or should I first name them dh2 and dh3, with hdtoolbox, THEN do the copy clone shizzle, and then remove the old dh0 dir

just doing this now....looks promising

AMIGASYSTEM · 07 June 2020, 20:17

Yes after partition creation, after a reboot you have to format them, of course the names of the partitions and volumes must not be the same and to the partition dedicated to the system by HDToolBox you have to add the tick on "bootable".

thomas · 07 June 2020, 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by radavi

probably because the winua now has 2 dh0: drives...

No, duplicate names are not an issue. They will be changed automatically. You'll have DH0 and DH0_1 or similar.

radavi · 07 June 2020, 20:31

Looks like I finally got it to work....thank you for all the tips!

radavi · 07 June 2020, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomas

No, duplicate names are not an issue. They will be changed automatically. You'll have DH0 and DH0_1 or similar.

One of my problems was that I THOUGHT the name had to be dh0:
Amiga has been toooooo long ago....

AMIGASYSTEM · 09 June 2020, 18:03

The Name is optional, as said better to avoid the same "bootable volume" names otherwise the Startup-sequence will confuse and load a "mixed system".

28 May 2020, 12:41	#1
radavi Registered User Join Date: May 2020 Location: Netherlands Posts: 9	Create a HDF from directories Hi there, I have been fooling around with WinUAE and have now a setup with 3 directories (for dh0:, dh1: and dh2 How can I create 1 HDF file from this setup ? Lots a information of how to create an empty hdf, but cannot find this answer.

03 June 2020, 08:50	#8
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Yes just with RDB set you can also partition HardFile and use your favorite FileSystem. You can also write the Hardfile (burn it) on CF/SD and start it on real Amiga as shown in my attached video (it's in Italian but it's intuitive). https://drive.google.com/file/d/19aN...ew?usp=sharing Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 03 June 2020 at 08:59.

07 June 2020, 19:56	#12
radavi Registered User Join Date: May 2020 Location: Netherlands Posts: 9	with some trial and error I think i managed to do it, but now this will boot and then it states it is not a dos disk, cannot boot from it. probably because the winua now has 2 dh0: drives...or should I first name them dh2 and dh3, with hdtoolbox, THEN do the copy clone shizzle, and then remove the old dh0 dir just doing this now....looks promising Last edited by radavi; 07 June 2020 at 20:13.

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28 May 2020, 19:27	#2
Saghalie Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: FT Lewis, WA Posts: 374	Hey radavi, You just need to mount the empty hdf with the 3 directories and copy the info from the directories to the hdf. So if the HDF's device name is DH3 then if you want to make a system HDF just copy the contents from DH0: to DH3 ... use this command from a CLI Copy DH0: DH3 clone all That will create all directories and files to the HDF for system files. You could then make the HDF the system disk and reboot the emulation and do the same for the other disks. But you would want to make sure that you have enough space on your HDF's to do this.

30 May 2020, 11:25	#3
radavi Registered User Join Date: May 2020 Location: Netherlands Posts: 9	Alrighty! I am not yet finished with selecting everything I want on it, but I thought just ask ahead. This looks like something I can manage to do and will try it soon. Thanks for you detailed answer.

30 May 2020, 11:34	#4
radavi Registered User Join Date: May 2020 Location: Netherlands Posts: 9	I could not resist and started with something. Just to be sure: I create a NEW hdf and make it 3 gig. Then I boot the emulation like I am used to. Now it seems I have to formet the newly created hdf. That I could do. Then with the clone command you mentioned I will clone my dh0: to it. And then, can i clone the dh1: as well, or do I first have to partition the 'newly hdf' first...or will that clone option do that for me somehow?

30 May 2020, 11:51	#5
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	You may want to a have a quick read of this thread; especially thomas's post: Max. size HDD on A1200? ...but yes you'll have to format the .HDF first before using "clone".

30 May 2020, 12:26	#6
radavi Registered User Join Date: May 2020 Location: Netherlands Posts: 9	Cool, thanks!

03 June 2020, 04:51	#7
AC/DC HACKER! Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth Posts: 884	I also suggest you use RDB mode for HDF. Create HDF, then when it's selected click RDB option. Now it'll act the same as a real Hard Drive and you may use it easily in other emulators if you want. Remember to format.

07 June 2020, 19:17	#9
radavi Registered User Join Date: May 2020 Location: Netherlands Posts: 9	So...what is the best way to have the partitioning on the newly created hdf ?

07 June 2020, 19:30	#10
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	You can get partitioning using HDToolBox after setting the RDB to WinUAE as shown in the video

07 June 2020, 19:42	#11
radavi Registered User Join Date: May 2020 Location: Netherlands Posts: 9	Problem is that I have older workbench I suppose....1996 verions. When I make the hdf setting to RDB my workbench does not show the device anymore, hdtoolbox cannot see any drive at all then

07 June 2020, 20:17	#13
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Yes after partition creation, after a reboot you have to format them, of course the names of the partitions and volumes must not be the same and to the partition dedicated to the system by HDToolBox you have to add the tick on "bootable".

07 June 2020, 20:31	#15
radavi Registered User Join Date: May 2020 Location: Netherlands Posts: 9	Looks like I finally got it to work....thank you for all the tips!

09 June 2020, 18:03	#17
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	The Name is optional, as said better to avoid the same "bootable volume" names otherwise the Startup-sequence will confuse and load a "mixed system".

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