AmigaOS 3.9 BoingBag #4 - Page 3

Mad-Matt · 29 September 2010, 19:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cosmos

>I dont think the exec replacement is anywhere near stable enough to be putting in a boing bag

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cosmos

Because of a bug... Must be found...

What I mean is, Its incomplete, very much a work in progress, and still a few bugs to squash at this early stage. It not ready to be distributed in some mega, suitable for all boingbag pack.

And of course I was using new misc.resource with new exec. (I can read the manual

)

Cosmos · 30 September 2010, 06:24

>So you believe when you put all the patches in the ROM users will come back?

YES !

Without patches, AmigaOS is simpler, so users will come back for sure...
I know many guys who are left because AmigaOS become too complicated : patchs, add-on, different versions (000, 020, 040, 060) of a same prg, two different RTG softwares...

>I guess it's time for you to realise that people left because the Amiga is dead

Lol !

>and not because of "zillions of patches"

It's one of the reason... Of course, it's not the only reason...

TCD · 30 September 2010, 09:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cosmos

>So you believe when you put all the patches in the ROM users will come back?

YES !

Where can I buy what you are smoking?

Cosmos · 30 September 2010, 11:13

Hey man, you have YOUR thruth, I have MY thruth...

Minuous · 30 September 2010, 12:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad-Matt

What I mean is, Its incomplete, very much a work in progress, and still a few bugs to squash at this early stage. It not ready to be distributed in some mega, suitable for all boingbag pack.

OK, in the interest of maximum stability I have released BB4 V0.7b which omits the exec.library/SetPatch upgrade. When there are no known bugs remaining I will reintegrate it into BB4.

Cosmos · 30 September 2010, 14:23

Ok, I found for the 45.22 !

Not really a bug...

cybppc.dev and certainly blizzppc.dev (please, Mad-Matt, check) call some AOS functions without the full API...
(=> in the Zone)

Maybe another bug in the 45.23... Still searching...

Cosmos · 30 September 2010, 15:24

>And of course I was using new misc.resource with new exec

Yes, you're right... A bug from me in misc.resource... Fixed !

Minuous · 04 October 2010, 00:04

I received this follow-up to the bug report:

"I've modified my startup-sequence to use Setpatch 44.40 as follows:

C:Version >NIL: exec.library 45
IF WARN
C:Loadresident >NIL: Libs:exec.library
ENDIF
C:SetPatch QUIET SKIPROMUPDATES exec.library

Now, I will explain why I believe this works. Setpatch >44.17 attempts to
place the Kicktags in FASTMEM which causes exec.library to fail on reboot.
Loadresident places the Kicktags in CHIPMEM and exec.library works fine.
Apparently, the Setpatch AVOIDMEMFKICKFORPATCHES option
is broken! So until Setpatch can be fixed the above S-S should provide a
workaround."

Minuous · 14 October 2010, 01:40

The saga continues... :-)

"I installed the revised AmigaOS Update [that was in the Zone] and it still fails unless I use "SKIPROMUPDATES exec.library". However, it
fails differently than the other version. Instead of the infinite reboot
error loop it will give a software error or recoverable error and sometimes
boot successfully and then crash when I load an application. Since, I could
at least get bootmenu to boot with no startup-sequence I decided to run
Setpatch from the shell and redirect the output to a text file which is
included below.

My accelerator card is a C= A3640.

Checksum failure! exec.library, exec 45.22 (24.07.2010) by Cosmos
AMIGA ROM Operating System and Libraries
Copyright © 1985-2002 Amiga, Inc.
All Rights Reserved.

SetPatch (V44.38) has already been installed. Patch list:
68040 Support Code Loaded
Enabled Advanced Graphics Modes
ramlib signal usage
stack size check for CON:, RAW:, RAM:, PAR:, PRT:, SER:
graphics/WritePixelLine8()
graphics/WriteChunkyPixel()
Enabled data cache
Checksum failure! exec.library, exec 45.22 (24.07.2010) by Cosmos"

Cosmos · 14 October 2010, 12:24

I have repaired my A3000D and his keyboard

So, I found : my Amiga model detection in the exec.lib was not very very good... A fix soon in the Zone !

gulliver · 26 October 2010, 22:06

BoingBag 4 has been updated to 0.7d

http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/bbag4.htm

Tumo007 · 27 October 2010, 00:53

Any news about a fix for IconLib .173 Iconify bug??

gulliver · 27 October 2010, 02:49

I will ask PeterK, he is probably busy, just be patient, we all have a life and do this just for fun.

And in the meantime, use the .172 one that comes with the latest BB4.

Minuous · 30 October 2010, 14:17

A fix for icon.library is being worked on and is imminent.

31 October 2010, 21:20

@Gulliver:

Can you convince FroggerNG (http://frogger.rules.pl/downloads.html ) author to release it freely to the community, as it can no longer be purchased ?
It would be a nice addition for BoingBag 4.

gulliver · 31 October 2010, 22:11

@68k

Email already sent for it to become publicly and fully available. Lets just be patient...

gulliver · 01 November 2010, 07:25

Just to let the interested ones know that PeterK has updated his icon.library to 46.4.175, and of course, it fixes between other things that infamous iconification bug.
It is available on Aminet, and it is of course part of the updated BoingBag 4 version 0.7e, which is available at the usual places.

Thank you PeterK!

PeterK · 01 November 2010, 07:48

OK, OK...
... but I feel very sorry for the long delay.
I was offline and didn't use my PC for nearly 2 months due to my poor health condition.

Btw, what kind of "other things", gulliver ??

gulliver · 01 November 2010, 08:24

@PeterK
I was referring to the .172 -> .173 fix, which I cant remember what it was (that is the other things). Many of us, were still using .172 and not .173 due to the iconification bug.

Bamiga2002 · 01 November 2010, 12:06

Thanks Peter, just installed the new library

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30 September 2010, 06:24	#42
Cosmos Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: France Posts: 655	>So you believe when you put all the patches in the ROM users will come back? YES ! Without patches, AmigaOS is simpler, so users will come back for sure... I know many guys who are left because AmigaOS become too complicated : patchs, add-on, different versions (000, 020, 040, 060) of a same prg, two different RTG softwares... >I guess it's time for you to realise that people left because the Amiga is dead Lol ! >and not because of "zillions of patches" It's one of the reason... Of course, it's not the only reason...

30 September 2010, 11:13	#44
Cosmos Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: France Posts: 655	Hey man, you have YOUR thruth, I have MY thruth...

30 September 2010, 14:23	#46
Cosmos Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: France Posts: 655	Ok, I found for the 45.22 ! Not really a bug... cybppc.dev and certainly blizzppc.dev (please, Mad-Matt, check) call some AOS functions without the full API... (=> in the Zone) Maybe another bug in the 45.23... Still searching...

30 September 2010, 15:24	#47
Cosmos Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: France Posts: 655	>And of course I was using new misc.resource with new exec Yes, you're right... A bug from me in misc.resource... Fixed !

04 October 2010, 00:04	#48
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,630	I received this follow-up to the bug report: "I've modified my startup-sequence to use Setpatch 44.40 as follows: C:Version >NIL: exec.library 45 IF WARN C:Loadresident >NIL: Libs:exec.library ENDIF C:SetPatch QUIET SKIPROMUPDATES exec.library Now, I will explain why I believe this works. Setpatch >44.17 attempts to place the Kicktags in FASTMEM which causes exec.library to fail on reboot. Loadresident places the Kicktags in CHIPMEM and exec.library works fine. Apparently, the Setpatch AVOIDMEMFKICKFORPATCHES option is broken! So until Setpatch can be fixed the above S-S should provide a workaround."

14 October 2010, 01:40	#49
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,630	The saga continues... :-) "I installed the revised AmigaOS Update [that was in the Zone] and it still fails unless I use "SKIPROMUPDATES exec.library". However, it fails differently than the other version. Instead of the infinite reboot error loop it will give a software error or recoverable error and sometimes boot successfully and then crash when I load an application. Since, I could at least get bootmenu to boot with no startup-sequence I decided to run Setpatch from the shell and redirect the output to a text file which is included below. My accelerator card is a C= A3640. Checksum failure! exec.library, exec 45.22 (24.07.2010) by Cosmos AMIGA ROM Operating System and Libraries Copyright © 1985-2002 Amiga, Inc. All Rights Reserved. SetPatch (V44.38) has already been installed. Patch list: 68040 Support Code Loaded Enabled Advanced Graphics Modes ramlib signal usage stack size check for CON:, RAW:, RAM:, PAR:, PRT:, SER: graphics/WritePixelLine8() graphics/WriteChunkyPixel() Enabled data cache Checksum failure! exec.library, exec 45.22 (24.07.2010) by Cosmos"

14 October 2010, 12:24	#50
Cosmos Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: France Posts: 655	I have repaired my A3000D and his keyboard So, I found : my Amiga model detection in the exec.lib was not very very good... A fix soon in the Zone !

26 October 2010, 22:06	#51
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	BoingBag 4 has been updated to 0.7d http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/bbag4.htm

27 October 2010, 00:53	#52
Tumo007 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Montreal, CANADA Posts: 56	Any news about a fix for IconLib .173 Iconify bug??

27 October 2010, 02:49	#53
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	I will ask PeterK, he is probably busy, just be patient, we all have a life and do this just for fun. And in the meantime, use the .172 one that comes with the latest BB4.

30 October 2010, 14:17	#54
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,630	A fix for icon.library is being worked on and is imminent.

31 October 2010, 21:20	#55
68k Posts: n/a	@Gulliver: Can you convince FroggerNG (http://frogger.rules.pl/downloads.html ) author to release it freely to the community, as it can no longer be purchased ? It would be a nice addition for BoingBag 4.

31 October 2010, 22:11	#56
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	@68k Email already sent for it to become publicly and fully available. Lets just be patient...

01 November 2010, 07:25	#57
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	Just to let the interested ones know that PeterK has updated his icon.library to 46.4.175, and of course, it fixes between other things that infamous iconification bug. It is available on Aminet, and it is of course part of the updated BoingBag 4 version 0.7e, which is available at the usual places. Thank you PeterK!

01 November 2010, 07:48	#58
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,365	OK, OK... ... but I feel very sorry for the long delay. I was offline and didn't use my PC for nearly 2 months due to my poor health condition. Btw, what kind of "other things", gulliver ??

01 November 2010, 08:24	#59
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	@PeterK I was referring to the .172 -> .173 fix, which I cant remember what it was (that is the other things). Many of us, were still using .172 and not .173 due to the iconification bug.

01 November 2010, 12:06	#60
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Thanks Peter, just installed the new library

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